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Post by Ruby Fusion on Apr 30, 2020 14:08:07 GMT -5
I'm in if it's 1:12 aka 6 inch It's 1:18 a pretty nice scale for people like me that were kids in the '80s  |
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Post by micco on Apr 30, 2020 16:18:04 GMT -5
Can you reveal the identities of the individuals on your “team” and explain to us what experience/credentials they possess? The name of your sculptor for example? I have consulted with a few sculptors to discuss terms of business agreements, but we are still in the early stages of development. As it stands, we are still an independent group working towards developing figures and may elect to promote characters created and designed in house. Ok. So that “team” that you mentioned having organized consists of who exactly? Securing a freelance artist whose rates are within your budget would be my first course of action. tom_veg_ would be ideal. He’s got a proven track record. You could approach a licensor with his portfolio of work and be taken seriously. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 30, 2020 16:39:51 GMT -5
I have consulted with a few sculptors to discuss terms of business agreements, but we are still in the early stages of development. As it stands, we are still an independent group working towards developing figures and may elect to promote characters created and designed in house. Ok. So that “team” that you mentioned having organized consists of who exactly? Securing a freelance artist whose rates are within your budget would be my first course of action. tom_veg_ would be ideal. He’s got a proven track record. You could approach a licensor with his portfolio of work and be taken seriously. I have been hesitant to divulge information on the basis of protecting the project as I have the most to lose. As it stands, I am wearing multiple hats as the leader of the project, but thankfully my relationships in the communities of hardcore figure enthusiasts and the independant arts community are paying off. We are still in the formative stages, but we have one freelance artist that I approached first out of appreciation for their ability. I have advocated his work for the past five years and trust him on a professional level and personal level. |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 30, 2020 16:44:56 GMT -5
I'm in if it's 1:12 aka 6 inch Depending on the success of the figure reveals and interest from wrestlers working as independent contractors wanting to work with us, the transition from 1:18 to 1:12 scale could become a very real possibility. The decision to use the 1:18 scale is based in a desire to meet a long held desire in the figure community for wrestling figures in the scale and to reduce overhead costs without compromising quality of our product. As a lifelong enthusiast of wrestling figures, I personally consider it a hill to die on that our figures be worth every penny in terms of durability and playability. |
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Post by micco on Apr 30, 2020 20:07:13 GMT -5
Ok. So that “team” that you mentioned having organized consists of who exactly? Securing a freelance artist whose rates are within your budget would be my first course of action. tom_veg_ would be ideal. He’s got a proven track record. You could approach a licensor with his portfolio of work and be taken seriously. I have been hesitant to divulge information on the basis of protecting the project as I have the most to lose. As it stands, I am wearing multiple hats as the leader of the project, but thankfully my relationships in the communities of hardcore figure enthusiasts and the independant arts community are paying off. We are still in the formative stages, but we have one freelance artist that I approached first out of appreciation for their ability. I have advocated his work for the past five years and trust him on a professional level and personal level. What have you got to lose? And, how would revealing the names and/or credentials of people on your team jeopardize you losing something? Only reason I’m asking is because it’s hard to honestly say what a persons interest level is with such little to base it off of. The minuscule amount of concrete info you have makes it sound enticing but that’s because I’m using my own imagination. FTC sounded like they going to blow me away with their line but as more information was disclosed, the less interested I became. As it stands, I have never purchased a single figure from them, but at one point I was under the impression I’d be buying every single one. Finding out who was sculpting for their line caused my interest to decrease. Learning about his process made my interest become smaller, seeing protos, destroyed even more of my interest, and seeing the final product obliterated the little interest I had left. Asking die hard wrestling figure fans about interest in a hypothetical line of figures and leaving the rest up to our imaginations is going to yield some pretty predictable results. Yes, we’re interested... for now. Maybe you can answer this question... does your aritist sculpt digitally or in the traditional way? |
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Apr 30, 2020 20:42:50 GMT -5
I have been hesitant to divulge information on the basis of protecting the project as I have the most to lose. As it stands, I am wearing multiple hats as the leader of the project, but thankfully my relationships in the communities of hardcore figure enthusiasts and the independent arts community are paying off. We are still in the formative stages, but we have one freelance artist that I approached first out of appreciation for their ability. I have advocated his work for the past five years and trust him on a professional level and personal level. What have you got to lose? And, how would revealing the names and/or credentials of people on your team jeopardize you losing something? Only reason I’m asking is because it’s hard to honestly say what a persons interest level is with such little to base it off of. The minuscule amount of concrete info you have makes it sound enticing but that’s because I’m using my own imagination. FTC sounded like they going to blow me away with their line but as more information was disclosed, the less interested I became. As it stands, I have never purchased a single figure from them, but at one point I was under the impression I’d be buying every single one. Finding out who was sculpting for their line caused my interest to decrease. Learning about his process made my interest become smaller, seeing protos, destroyed even more of my interest, and seeing the final product obliterated the little interest I had left. Asking die hard wrestling figure fans about interest in a hypothetical line of figures and leaving the rest up to our imaginations is going to yield some pretty predictable results. Yes, we’re interested... for now. Maybe you can answer this question... does your aritist sculpt digitally or in the traditional way? I did not want to share images we have at the risk of someone stealing our idea before we could get it off the ground, Your questions are completely valid, but morso I was interested in hearing what collectors would hope for in a 1:18 scale line and/or an NWA Relaunch lines. Basically give me suggestions of what you would like to see and the consensus of the public will influence our decisions. |
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Apr 30, 2020 21:18:36 GMT -5
I have a huge collection at the 6inch scale(thousands) unfortunately no matter how bad i would want new names and faces, at 4 inch scale it would be a hard pass. Other than star wars currently on the market, every other figure line available and in most collections is in the 6 inch scale.
My personal opinion is you have more people who would want to blend a new line in with pre existing collection as opposed to starting a whole new set at a completely different scale.
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Post by micco on Apr 30, 2020 23:36:59 GMT -5
What have you got to lose? And, how would revealing the names and/or credentials of people on your team jeopardize you losing something? Only reason I’m asking is because it’s hard to honestly say what a persons interest level is with such little to base it off of. The minuscule amount of concrete info you have makes it sound enticing but that’s because I’m using my own imagination. FTC sounded like they going to blow me away with their line but as more information was disclosed, the less interested I became. As it stands, I have never purchased a single figure from them, but at one point I was under the impression I’d be buying every single one. Finding out who was sculpting for their line caused my interest to decrease. Learning about his process made my interest become smaller, seeing protos, destroyed even more of my interest, and seeing the final product obliterated the little interest I had left. Asking die hard wrestling figure fans about interest in a hypothetical line of figures and leaving the rest up to our imaginations is going to yield some pretty predictable results. Yes, we’re interested... for now. Maybe you can answer this question... does your aritist sculpt digitally or in the traditional way? I did not want to share images we have at the risk of someone stealing our idea before we could get it off the ground, Your questions are completely valid, but morso I was interested in hearing what collectors would hope for in a 1:18 scale line and/or an NWA Relaunch lines. Basically give me suggestions of what you would like to see and the consensus of the public will influence our decisions. Fair enough. When you do release pictures of your prototypes and/or designs, I expect to see you doing something unusually unique for you to be worried about someone stealing your idea, since the idea to produce a wrestling figure line is not in and of itself a novel concept. Speaking of which, I’m not that hard to please when it comes to figures tbh. An accurate facial likeness is a necessity though. The next most important thing is paint applications that are not necessarily highly detailed, but are consistently of a high quality. Lastly, as a MOC collector, well designed packaging is important to me. Things like detailed paint apps, accessories and articulation are insignificant to me. |
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Post by Di-Di-Dis-Distribution Problem on May 1, 2020 0:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by Ruby Fusion on May 1, 2020 2:28:31 GMT -5
I have a huge collection at the 6inch scale(thousands) unfortunately no matter how bad i would want new names and faces, at 4 inch scale it would be a hard pass. Other than star wars currently on the market, every other figure line available and in most collections is in the 6 inch scale. My personal opinion is you have more people who would want to blend a new line in with pre existing collection as opposed to starting a whole new set at a completely different scale. Super7 is going strong in the 3 3/4" figure segment; I have their luchas and Eddie (from Iron Maiden) figures. Zica Toys also keeps making 4" figures: Sectaurs and Captain Action. In the pre-Covid-19 era so did Fresh Monkey Fiction. |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on May 1, 2020 10:24:00 GMT -5
I need more NWA belts the TNA figures are hard to find
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Post by lefreeman991 on May 3, 2020 1:29:01 GMT -5
1:12 or nothing for me 😁
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Post by Ruby Fusion on May 3, 2020 6:43:14 GMT -5
1:12 is unrealistic for a startup, unless you're willing to pay close to $60 per figure... |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 11:51:10 GMT -5
1:12 is unrealistic for a startup, unless you're willing to pay close to $60 per figure... You've been around long enough to know that people on here don't have realistic expectations. |
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Post by Ruby Fusion on May 4, 2020 12:27:05 GMT -5
1:12 is unrealistic for a startup, unless you're willing to pay close to $60 per figure... You've been around long enough to know that people on here don't have realistic expectations. That's the problem with kids today: "1:12 or nothing". Heck, when I was a kid I didn't even have wrestling figures, but my 3 3/4" Galoob B.A. could still whoop 5" Mattel Skeletor's ass! When I was 15 or 16 I had 2 wrestling figures: Wrestling Champs bootlegs of Studd & Hogan (still have them!). As an adult collector I started with some Hasbros, added 8" LJNs, then some Japanese 5" figures, some WCW Galoobs, 16" LJN Hogan, 14" Star Toys, discovered 5.5" Popys (STILL my only complete series), lucha arena figures, ... I have a skyline of figures. |
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Post by deskjet on May 6, 2020 21:17:26 GMT -5
You've been around long enough to know that people on here don't have realistic expectations. That's the problem with kids today: "1:12 or nothing". Heck, when I was a kid I didn't even have wrestling figures, but my 3 3/4" Galoob B.A. could still whoop 5" Mattel Skeletor's ass! When I was 15 or 16 I had 2 wrestling figures: Wrestling Champs bootlegs of Studd & Hogan (still have them!). As an adult collector I started with some Hasbros, added 8" LJNs, then some Japanese 5" figures, some WCW Galoobs, 16" LJN Hogan, 14" Star Toys, discovered 5.5" Popys (STILL my only complete series), lucha arena figures, ... I have a skyline of figures. If you talk to a lot of toy reps, the choice to go to 6 inch scale is that there is very little difference in cost to produce the figures( I'm only going on what I've heard). It's why so many major companies are at 1:12 scale and have abandoned 1:18..namely hasbro. Arguably you also get a better application of paint apps for a larger canvas. Kickstarters like the four horsemen mythic legions originally started out to be 1:18 scale but they decided to make the switch. There is a market for 1:18 but it's very niche. All your major top selling lines are 5-8 inch range. If cost is that big of an issue, that'll get made up in sales because you'll appeal to a larger audience. That said, if you really want a wrestling line to have a shelf life, why go against the grain. I don't know that too many people would be thrilled with the idea of matching their 3.75 inch NWA wrestlers against their 6.5 inch wwe/aew/ super 7 wrestling figures. |
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Post by Nivro™ on May 7, 2020 0:39:58 GMT -5
1:12 is unrealistic for a startup, unless you're willing to pay close to $60 per figure... Cant put a price on quality. Head scans are running around $20, paint jobs (if you cant DIY) are running $20 and then mattel bodies are another $20. People want scale now days. Every line, every company...they want everything to mix in. If I had my choice of paying $20 for a 4" Ricky Morton or $65 for a 6", Im going with the 6 inch scale all day long. It fits in & would have better detailing. |
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Post by Ruby Fusion on May 7, 2020 3:31:41 GMT -5
That's the problem with kids today: "1:12 or nothing". Heck, when I was a kid I didn't even have wrestling figures, but my 3 3/4" Galoob B.A. could still whoop 5" Mattel Skeletor's ass! When I was 15 or 16 I had 2 wrestling figures: Wrestling Champs bootlegs of Studd & Hogan (still have them!). As an adult collector I started with some Hasbros, added 8" LJNs, then some Japanese 5" figures, some WCW Galoobs, 16" LJN Hogan, 14" Star Toys, discovered 5.5" Popys (STILL my only complete series), lucha arena figures, ... I have a skyline of figures. If you talk to a lot of toy reps, the choice to go to 6 inch scale is that there is very little difference in cost to produce the figures( I'm only going on what I've heard). It's why so many major companies are at 1:12 scale and have abandoned 1:18..namely hasbro. Arguably you also get a better application of paint apps for a larger canvas. Kickstarters like the four horsemen mythic legions originally started out to be 1:18 scale but they decided to make the switch. There is a market for 1:18 but it's very niche. All your major top selling lines are 5-8 inch range. If cost is that big of an issue, that'll get made up in sales because you'll appeal to a larger audience. That said, if you really want a wrestling line to have a shelf life, why go against the grain. I don't know that too many people would be thrilled with the idea of matching their 3.75 inch NWA wrestlers against their 6.5 inch wwe/aew/ super 7 wrestling figures. Still, I don't think you can compare a startup against (major) companies that have been around decades (Four Horsemen) or even over half a century (Hasbro, Mattel)... Besides, many people collecting 1:12 still have POP! vinyls (deformed 3 3/4") in their collection. |
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Post by Lego Customs! on May 7, 2020 4:13:10 GMT -5
I would love 1:12" to fit in with all other figure lines in the wrestling community nowadays. But correct me if I am wrong, 1:18" would be a 4" line? 3 3/4" line. 3 3/4" is the future. |
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Post by Lego Customs! on May 7, 2020 4:20:07 GMT -5
For some time now I have been working on designing ABS plastic based, 1:18 scale wrestling figures, developing a sufficient understanding of the legal protocol regarding manufactured goods and intellectual property laws respectively, and organizing a team to work with me in the design, assembly, advertising, and shipping of the figures. As a fan of their product and believer in their company, I plan on contacting NWA's office and inquiring about their interest in a toy line at some point in the future. I was hoping to get some input from WFIGS if anyone here would be interested in figures depicting NWA Talent? If nothing drastically changes regarding NWA's roster and business relationships, I will strive to include Ricky Morton, Robert Gibson, Nick Aldis, Tim Storm, and whoever the fans voice as deeply desired in the line. Furthermore, one of my main goals with the line is to produce a 1/18 scale wrestling ring with fabric canvas and apron. If I have my way the ring will include a referee figure. Feel free to air comments, thoughts, and questions regarding the possibility of NWA Action Figures (And yes, we will be working on presenting the Ten Pounds of Gold as a figure accessory)  We'll be waiting for The Rock 'n' Roll Express!  |
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