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Post by alexxx on May 9, 2020 14:45:47 GMT -5
I think most of us agree that Ted Dibiase was one of the best heels the WWF ever had. He debuted with the company in 1987 and was an immediate main event player beginning a program with Hulk Hogan upon his arrival. In fact he was responsible for ending Hogan's four year title reign. Even though he didn't get a title reign of his own Dibiase would remain a top heel in the WWF for the next few years seamlessly bouncing from the upper mid card to the main event when needed. In early 1992 Dibiase transitioned from singles star to the tag team division. He formed Money Incorporated with Irwin R. Schyster and the pair won three tag titles in the year and a half they were together. Money Inc. was definitely a great tag team but at the time I was a little surprised to see Dibiase give up his singles career.
Usually when someone moves from singles to tag team it's because their best days are behind them but the new team could give them some extra mileage. I didn't notice Dibiase being on a downward slope in 1992 but maybe he was. He already worked with most of the top faces of the time and a lot of his guys from his era were leaving the company. Maybe switching to the tag division helped extend Dibiase's career. Or maybe the tag division needed Dibiase more than he needed it. Over the past year The Hart Foundation, Rockers, Demolition, and Power & Glory either split up or left the company. The tag division was getting weaker so maybe a credible guy like Dibiase getting a partner and becoming champions was more to help the weakening division than save Dibiase.
Or maybe it was both. I felt Dibiase still had plenty to offer as a singles wrestler but with the amount of turnover in 1992 maybe the WWF didn't feel the same way. Instead of just cutting him loose they decided to strengthen their weakening tag division. I am not sure if Dibiase really needed Money Inc. but I do think IRS benefited tremendously from the team. The wrestling accountant could have easily been thrown in the terrible gimmick category with the wrestling garbage man, wrestling plumber, and wrestling dentist. Instead thanks to both Mike Rotunda's talent but also his partnership with Ted Dibiase, its easy to overlook how silly the IRS gimmick actually was and view Irwin R. Schyster as a perfectly legitimate competitor. So maybe Money Inc. was more to help IRS.
So why do you think Money Inc. was formed? Was it to extend Dibiase's career, save IRS's career, or help the tag division? Don't get me wrong. Even though I am questioning why Money Inc. even happened doesn't mean I didn't like them. I thought they were a great team. So maybe that's a fourth option. Maybe the reason was simply it was a good idea that just worked. What do you think?
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Post by jason88cubs on May 9, 2020 15:03:15 GMT -5
Could be wrong but wasn't Dibase starting to deal with back issues? Maybe that was to help lighten the load a bit?
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Post by The Brain on May 9, 2020 15:23:02 GMT -5
By early 92 DiBiase was in his twilight years especially with injuries piling up so pairing him with IRS was the right move.They instantly clicked and had a decent little run I thought.
Jimmy Hart as their manager was the icing on the cake.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 9, 2020 16:16:33 GMT -5
I always figured Dibiase's Tag Title reign was Vince's way of thanking Ted for everything he did for the WWE. Same as what he did with Andre in late 1989 winning the Tag Titles with Haku and holding them for four months.
Ted and IRS were the perfect heel team. Having Jimmy Hart manage them somehow worked too.
Little known fact, there is a match on Superstars of Wrestling I wanna say it was, in late February of 1993 or maybe early March, but Money Inc have Jimmy Hart as their manager for it. But Jimmy had already left them on Raw for Beefcake and Hogan, so they have to edit so much of that match. There are times where they go close in for a camera shot, and you can see Jimmy Hart's megaphone appear at times. There was one cut away where they messed up and you can see Jimmy Hart at ringside with them. Just a little funny info for people to know.
But I loved Money Inc. They were my favourite tag team in 1992 and 1993 for the WWF.
The Steiners vs. Money Inc. feud in summer of 1993 on Superstars of Wrestling was incredible!
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Post by LA Times on May 9, 2020 16:25:33 GMT -5
By late 1991, Dibiase was pretty much a midcarder, so putting him in Money Inc added new life to his career. To win their 3 tag team championships, they beat the Legion of Doom, Natural Disasters and the Steiner Brothers.
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Post by The Brain on May 9, 2020 17:04:29 GMT -5
I always figured Dibiase's Tag Title reign was Vince's way of thanking Ted for everything he did for the WWE. Same as what he did with Andre in late 1989 winning the Tag Titles with Haku and holding them for four months. Ted and IRS were the perfect heel team. Having Jimmy Hart manage them somehow worked too. Little known fact, there is a match on Superstars of Wrestling I wanna say it was, in late February of 1993 or maybe early March, but Money Inc have Jimmy Hart as their manager for it. But Jimmy had already left them on Raw for Beefcake and Hogan, so they have to edit so much of that match. There are times where they go close in for a camera shot, and you can see Jimmy Hart's megaphone appear at times. There was one cut away where they messed up and you can see Jimmy Hart at ringside with them. Just a little funny info for people to know. But I loved Money Inc. They were my favourite tag team in 1992 and 1993 for the WWF. The Steiners vs. Money Inc. feud in summer of 1993 on Superstars of Wrestling was incredible!
Easily tag team feud of the year as far as the WWF goes. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 9, 2020 17:05:26 GMT -5
By late 1991, Dibiase was pretty much a midcarder, so putting him in Money Inc added new life to his career. To win their 3 tag team championships, they beat the Legion of Doom, Natural Disasters and the Steiner Brothers.
That's the second time too that the LOD lost the tag titles to Mike Rotunda.
In the NWA when he and Dr. Death beat the Road Warriors, and then in the WWF when he and Ted beat the LOD.
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Post by jking1979 on May 9, 2020 19:22:49 GMT -5
I like Mike Rotunda better. It's a shame that he didn't have great promo skills to go with his impressive wrestling background. Ted DiBiase was one of the top heels of the 80s and early 90s. He could have easily been a world champion.
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Post by Mongo Bears on May 9, 2020 20:56:08 GMT -5
I’ve been watching wcw 91 and 92 and Rotunda was just getting the York Foundation started when he left. He was a similar character as IRS, and Terry Taylor was just joining the stable. I think they would’ve been a great tag team and with Ms. York it was so similar to money inc.
The stable couldn’t survive with Taylor as the number 1 guy and that’s too bad. I never loved Money inc but Dibiase is one of my favorites
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Post by JokerFC on May 10, 2020 10:03:02 GMT -5
Ah Money Inc....the dominant heel team in my Hasbro Fed...LOL. I really enjoyed Money Inc. They were a great fit and complimented one another VERY well.
On Dibiase's RF shoot He states that the team was formed because IRS hadn't took off like Vince had hoped when he contacted Rotundo to jump as the Michael Wallstreet character. he brought in Dibiase because he had worked with everyone on the singles scene(he had)...also? Vince was getting tight on fresh scenarios(he was) so it was a great way for them to be rejuvenated. He also mentioned they were surprised as hell to be given the tag straps when Hawk got busted again. Isn't it unusual the way the Road Warriors dropped all their Major titles to thrown together teams? Varsity Club, Money Inc & NAO? Anyhoo….
They were a GREAT heel team. Their feuds with LOD, Ultimate Maniacs & Steiner's were all brilliant. The feud with the Steiner's was WWFs feud of the year in 1993.
He also stated that the team ran for longer than intended and their last task was to put the Steiner's over. Ted stated he found the matches with the Steiner's tough because they were so physical and his back, knee, hip and left elbow were all a constant concern at the time.
Seems they were always involved with changing plans.....
Originally supposed to beat LOD @ WM8 & drop belts back @ Summerslam 92 - Hawk screwed that up for both teams.
Were meant to drop titles to Mega Maniacs @ WM9 but Hogan had no interest in the straps much to Vinnies dismay
Meant to work a programme with the Smokin Gunns after Steiners but Ted was crippled....as he said " I couldn't go around the horn with 2 guys greener than the grass on one wheel and a bad back...wouldn't have been fair on Mike"
man the battles Money Inc had with the Steiners & Demolition in my Hasbro fed....memories.
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Post by jking1979 on May 10, 2020 14:32:37 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase could make his opponents look good in the ring just like Ric Flair. My only problem is his comments about the Ultimate Warrior. They had alot of guys trash him on a DVD just to make WWE some money.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 10, 2020 16:41:03 GMT -5
Were meant to drop titles to Mega Maniacs @ WM9 but Hogan had no interest in the straps much to Vinnies dismay
Vince should have stood up for that to take place! Think about the house shows the WWE could have had then.
Show A: Bret Hart vs. Yokozuna for the WWE Title as the main event Show B: Mega Maniacs vs. Money Inc. for the Tag Titles as the main event
Money would have been made huge then for that company. And sadly that kind of screwed over Brutus Beefcake too out of a title reign. In 1993 it's sad that Hogan didn't see his place in wrestling wasn't as the main event guy anymore at least in the WWE ring.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 17:44:33 GMT -5
Were meant to drop titles to Mega Maniacs @ WM9 but Hogan had no interest in the straps much to Vinnies dismay Vince should have stood up for that to take place! Think about the house shows the WWE could have had then. Show A: Bret Hart vs. Yokozuna for the WWE Title as the main event Show B: Mega Maniacs vs. Money Inc. for the Tag Titles as the main event Money would have been made huge then for that company. And sadly that kind of screwed over Brutus Beefcake too out of a title reign. In 1993 it's sad that Hogan didn't see his place in wrestling wasn't as the main event guy anymore at least in the WWE ring. agreed! REALLY wanted hulk/beefer to win the belts too. rematch at KOTR, money inc brings a surprise ins policy which turns out to be giant gonzales who gets them the belts back. or if they coulda somehow got warrior to come back for a huge hulk/beefer vs savage/warrior match woulda been too sweet. |
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Post by JokerFC on May 11, 2020 3:48:56 GMT -5
Most folks seem to think the Mega Maniacs were 100% going over Money Inc but then you get a few guys who say there were never any plans for it. I'm inclined to think there was plans and like Ted says? Hogan had no interest. Makes sense to me....
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 13:57:31 GMT -5
I thought they made a great combination and were great as tag team champs.
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Post by rowdy1971 on May 12, 2020 14:02:41 GMT -5
Money Inc. is one of my favorite tag teams. I, however, don't think they needed Jimmy Hart as their manager. Ted and IRS can cut really good promos. Jimmy just looked out of place. I'm not mad at it though. I just think they didn't need it.
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