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Post by britishbrickfan on Sept 27, 2022 8:14:03 GMT -5
I quite like the Swoggle figure - the face is close enough to a more current Swoggle I think (though I'm not a big follower of his current work admittedly) but my initial thought is the figure looks too slim which affects the proportions as well as the face. The key will be of course how it looks next to other figures in the line; scale has been an issue so far in the line but this one especially needs to work for the figure to be accepted. they have said it's not in line with the others, so I think it could be the same size as Nakano, but then its for the collectors to decide if they want to pay for that or not
I just have no interest in Swoggle full stop, I was never interested in Hornswoggle in WWE, so have even less interest in buying a figure who I don't follow as a fan
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Post by RedDevil on Sept 27, 2022 8:23:17 GMT -5
I quite like the Swoggle figure - the face is close enough to a more current Swoggle I think (though I'm not a big follower of his current work admittedly) but my initial thought is the figure looks too slim which affects the proportions as well as the face. The key will be of course how it looks next to other figures in the line; scale has been an issue so far in the line but this one especially needs to work for the figure to be accepted. they have said it's not in line with the others, so I think it could be the same size as Nakano, but then its for the collectors to decide if they want to pay for that or not
I just have no interest in Swoggle full stop, I was never interested in Hornswoggle in WWE, so have even less interest in buying a figure who I don't follow as a fan
I wonder if they mean by that that the figure isn't the same size as the other figures, i.e. that they're not making a Swoggle the same exact size as Giant Haystacks, rather than the Swoggle figure stands as high to Haystacks as the real Swoggle would to Haystacks if he were still around? The way it's written then it seems to refer to scale, but seems unlikely Chella would do that, especially after the heat they got for Bull Nakano - though we can never be sure  If he is out of scale compared to the others then the figure is ruined from the start. |
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Post by britishbrickfan on Sept 27, 2022 8:50:56 GMT -5
they have said it's not in line with the others, so I think it could be the same size as Nakano, but then its for the collectors to decide if they want to pay for that or not
I just have no interest in Swoggle full stop, I was never interested in Hornswoggle in WWE, so have even less interest in buying a figure who I don't follow as a fan
I wonder if they mean by that that the figure isn't the same size as the other figures, i.e. that they're not making a Swoggle the same exact size as Giant Haystacks, rather than the Swoggle figure stands as high to Haystacks as the real Swoggle would to Haystacks if he were still around? The way it's written then it seems to refer to scale, but seems unlikely Chella would do that, especially after the heat they got for Bull Nakano - though we can never be sure If he is out of scale compared to the others then the figure is ruined from the start. they've said it is not in scale, in terms of how high Swoggle should stand compared to other figures, as they couldn't get the details of his tattoos if he was a 2.5" figure standing alongside a 4" figure
as I said, I think he will be the same size as Nakano, which is smaller than a standard Chella figure, yet big enough for them to get the detail right on the various tattoss/logos etc, but it would mean if Swoggle is the same height/size as Nakano's figure, he would just be a smaller Chella figure, but still much taller than he "should" be
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Post by newgenandy on Sept 27, 2022 8:52:00 GMT -5
they have said it's not in line with the others, so I think it could be the same size as Nakano, but then its for the collectors to decide if they want to pay for that or not
I just have no interest in Swoggle full stop, I was never interested in Hornswoggle in WWE, so have even less interest in buying a figure who I don't follow as a fan
I wonder if they mean by that that the figure isn't the same size as the other figures, i.e. that they're not making a Swoggle the same exact size as Giant Haystacks, rather than the Swoggle figure stands as high to Haystacks as the real Swoggle would to Haystacks if he were still around? The way it's written then it seems to refer to scale, but seems unlikely Chella would do that, especially after the heat they got for Bull Nakano - though we can never be sure If he is out of scale compared to the others then the figure is ruined from the start. I’d guess it’s slightly smaller than the others, I wouldn’t expect it to be close to scale. For perspective he’s 4ft 5 so to have him in scale with hasbro figures (which are about 4.5in) he’d need to be about 3in |
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Post by walter7paisley on Sept 27, 2022 11:36:34 GMT -5
they have said it's not in line with the others, so I think it could be the same size as Nakano, but then its for the collectors to decide if they want to pay for that or not
I just have no interest in Swoggle full stop, I was never interested in Hornswoggle in WWE, so have even less interest in buying a figure who I don't follow as a fan
I wonder if they mean by that that the figure isn't the same size as the other figures, i.e. that they're not making a Swoggle the same exact size as Giant Haystacks, rather than the Swoggle figure stands as high to Haystacks as the real Swoggle would to Haystacks if he were still around? The way it's written then it seems to refer to scale, but seems unlikely Chella would do that, especially after the heat they got for Bull Nakano - though we can never be sure If he is out of scale compared to the others then the figure is ruined from the start. I take it to mean that he's scaled smaller than the rest of the retros, which would make sense, as he's a little person, so shouldn't be scaled to the same size as the likes of Hayabusa etc. |
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Sept 27, 2022 18:17:23 GMT -5
I have no problem with any Swoggle merch. he's technically got a disability, just went through a major surgery for that disability, and has a young son to take care of. if making toys of his likeness does it, good for him. he spent 10+ years in WWE breaking his body and traveling, he's earned this
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Sept 28, 2022 2:31:39 GMT -5
I have no problem with any Swoggle merch. he's technically got a disability, just went through a major surgery for that disability, and has a young son to take care of. if making toys of his likeness does it, good for him. he spent 10+ years in WWE breaking his body and traveling, he's earned this Not sure anyone's questioning any of that stuff to be honest. Most comments were regarding the execution of the figure or "not for me". |
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Post by walter7paisley on Sept 28, 2022 3:24:38 GMT -5
I have no problem with any Swoggle merch. he's technically got a disability, just went through a major surgery for that disability, and has a young son to take care of. if making toys of his likeness does it, good for him. he spent 10+ years in WWE breaking his body and traveling, he's earned this Not sure anyone's questioning any of that stuff to be honest. Most comments were regarding the execution of the figure or "not for me". My only concern, although it's not really a concern per say, was that the progress of other previously announced figures may have been halted. Who gets a figure and why they get it isn't really an issue for me. It seems like these independant lines are the only place indie names will likely get a figure, so I get it. |
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Post by The Real Chillary on Sept 28, 2022 8:27:31 GMT -5
I have no problem with any Swoggle merch. he's technically got a disability, just went through a major surgery for that disability, and has a young son to take care of. if making toys of his likeness does it, good for him. he spent 10+ years in WWE breaking his body and traveling, he's earned this Okay bucko. But really, he's only getting a figure because he's a meme to Ryder and Hawkins. |
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Post by ajay182 on Sept 28, 2022 9:29:24 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure what the complaint around Swoggle is - it's not like he's a total random like Josh Shernoff, who got figures ages ago. He's unique and a name cropping back up due to MWFP.
From a business perspective, my assumption is he's jumped the line ahead of others because the window of opportunity is reducing on getting decent sales from a Swoggle figure. The MWFP hype is quite high at the moment, with Cardona and Sterling having a bit of buzz. The "legends" characters are comparatively safe bets to sell whenever they're released, so they might as well take a sideways jump onto the wave with MWFP stuff and make some money.
Can't begrudge anyone that. It's a business, not a public service.
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Post by britishbrickfan on Sept 28, 2022 9:52:43 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure what the complaint around Swoggle is - it's not like he's a total random like Josh Shernoff, who got figures ages ago. He's unique and a name cropping back up due to MWFP. From a business perspective, my assumption is he's jumped the line ahead of others because the window of opportunity is reducing on getting decent sales from a Swoggle figure. The MWFP hype is quite high at the moment, with Cardona and Sterling having a bit of buzz. The "legends" characters are comparatively safe bets to sell whenever they're released, so they might as well take a sideways jump onto the wave with MWFP stuff and make some money. Can't begrudge anyone that. It's a business, not a public service. I don't think we're begruding a business from following a business opportunity, I think the questions (as others have said) boil down to:
1) what size is the figure, as it's confirmed that it is "not in scale" with the Megastars line. so is it a 3", 3.5", 4" or 4.5" figure? as discussed on the MWFP show this week, basically consider this figure to be a standalone item, not part of any line, just a figure of Swoggle in that style
2) the other question is more "What else is currently in production right now?" and that's more based on the fact that this figure was only recently announced, revealed and ready to go on sale in a matter of days, but will be in collector's hands in a couple of months time. that means it's been happening in the background for a long time with no-one knowing, that's good news for many, as it means they also have a way to quickly produce figures much faster than their previous timeframes
the answer to 2 is important, as obviously collectors have been waiting for a LONG time for figures, and there is a LOT of product that they have announced/revealed that as far as we're aware, are nowhere near ready for sale. the recent ToyArt show in the UK demonstrated that Chella currently has at least 13 figures that have been announced, designs have been revealed but (as far as we know) have not even entered production yet
meanwhile we're still waiting for release info on stuff like blue Haystacks, Big Daddy and Al Snow which are (apparently) ready to go (Figure Collections already received blue Haystacks so there's definitely a shipment due there)
if Chella and their factories have upped production, and clearly the Swoggle figure is evidence that they have made some changes in the background, all we're asking for at the minute is "What else is coming in the next few months, and how long do we have to wait till we can order more of the rest?"
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Post by britishbrickfan on Sept 28, 2022 9:57:34 GMT -5
1) what size is the figure, as it's confirmed that it is "not in scale" with the Megastars line. so is it a 3", 3.5", 4" or 4.5" figure? as discussed on the MWFP show this week, basically consider this figure to be a standalone item, not part of any line, just a figure of Swoggle in that style
and on that point, I suspect the easiest way to translate this to another figure of this style would be the Myers ZST figure - it's a "jumper" design, but it has no jumping action feature. Myers always wanted his Retro to be a jumping action figure, hence that style for his ZST release
so I guess this is the same for Swoggle - it's confirmed that it's not "in scale" with other Retro figures, so let's just see it as a way for Dylan to have a Retro styled figure, it's just not in proportion of size/scale when placed alongside others of that style (I still reckon it will just be the same height of the Nakano figure) so smaller, just not accurate for his size in real life compared with others
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Post by hulkjoegan on Sept 28, 2022 10:30:38 GMT -5
Seems to be a lot of assumptions that this figure ‘jumped the line’ and is delaying the previously announced figures….isn’t it possible that he/ his buddies asked Chella not to announce it as soon as a deal was made but rather sit on it until it was near completion, so that it would be announced & on sale in a matter of months - just like the major’s other figure lines?
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Post by walter7paisley on Sept 28, 2022 11:23:12 GMT -5
Seems to be a lot of assumptions that this figure ‘jumped the line’ and is delaying the previously announced figures….isn’t it possible that he/ his buddies asked Chella not to announce it as soon as a deal was made but rather sit on it until it was near completion, so that it would be announced & on sale in a matter of months - just like the major’s other figure lines? I truthfully, personally, doubt that Swoggle was designed and locked in before names like Onita, etc. I can't see them keeping the lid on it for that long. Lots of names were announced months and months ago. The British legends line was announced a good while ago with the design for Street. I just can't see Swoggle being locked in and drawn up prior to that. I could obviously be wrong, but I'd be willing to bet that Swoggle is a recent project. Again, not a huge deal, but the truth is that figures that have been in production for a long time, and purchased through pre-order as far back as last year, are still currently undelivered. |
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Post by asyis on Sept 28, 2022 13:27:37 GMT -5
So are Chella finished now? It kinda sounds that way from the Major Podcast announcement.
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Post by walter7paisley on Sept 28, 2022 13:59:19 GMT -5
So are Chella finished now? It kinda sounds that way from the Major Podcast announcement. A shame if they are, and it'd make the past several months of radio silence a tad more understandable. The biggest gripe was the idea that they were still operating but avoiding direct communication with the customers. |
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Post by newgenandy on Sept 28, 2022 14:22:42 GMT -5
What was said?
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Post by asyis on Sept 28, 2022 14:56:43 GMT -5
. @figcollections & @wrestlingtrader will now be taking the helm for @chellatoys . 1st release will be the Wrestling Megastars 1 of 1000 @dylanpostl vinyl figure. From that tweet I'm unsure if they mean all shipping or if they have taken over the company? |
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Post by hulkjoegan on Sept 28, 2022 15:46:01 GMT -5
My reading of the situation was that fig collections & wrestling trader would be taking over distribution, with the implication being that Chella would just focus on design & manufacture of figures.
Which to be honest I wouldn’t blame Chella for that at all, if it means they no longer have to deal with incessant questions and moaning from collectors.
But that’s just my reading between the lines; so may not be accurate.
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Post by ajay182 on Sept 28, 2022 16:27:52 GMT -5
Chella not being tagged in any of the recent announcements by Wrestling Trader makes me think the Chella "brand" might be done with.
The people behind Chella might still help Wrestling Trader out with factories etc, or just be there to transition them over before WT takes over fully.
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