[RETRO] Wrestling Megastars by Epic Toys

What do you want them to do about it?

Send you a refund? Go for it. Send you items in damaged packaging? Doubt it. So your options are to…chill or wait in anger.

I feel you, mate. I was in the same boat with my Chella orders, had white Dynamite, blue Haystacks and Daddy on order forever, and eventually, on my second request, got a full refund... Then months later I received my order, so I can't complain!

What I would say is if you're absolutely fed up, put a refund request in. I would also recommend waiting a little longer, as Daddy and Haystacks do look great on card.

Tbh thst display does sound great, and I'm generally a loose collector when it comes to wrestling figures, I'm not sure why, I just find I want to mess about with them more as I spent so many years as a kid playing with them, lol.

I've kept my Daddy, white Dynamite and Haystacks on their cards and in the protective wrappers they came in, but everything within me tells me to open them up.

I kinda get that though, whatever company we've bought figures from, how long have we had to wait to get these figures?

Felt like incredibly poor reporting on MWFP behalf. Epic (Chella) haven’t put a pre-order up since taking over the company, whilst saying repeatedly they will fund the projects as far as they can before dropping them for pre-order, even going as far as holding off pre-orders until Series 2 has shipped from factory.

Not sure where they get their information from, or if they are even bothering to look at what’s being wrote for them to say.

They're not wrong to certain extents, although it's simply just crowdfunding, rather than "robbing Peter to pay Paul", but them not getting the true meaning of that phrase isn't too surprising as they're hardly the brightest stars in the sky, as evidenced by their inability to see their own hypocrisy and blatant contradiction.

It depends, as the most common definition seems to be:

"To harm one person in order to do good to another; by extension, to use money or resources set aside for one purpose for a different one."



Or alternatively:

"To rob Peter to pay Paul", or other versions that have developed over the centuries such as "to borrow from Peter to pay Paul", and "to unclothe Peter to clothe Paul", are phrases meaning to take from one person or thing to give to another, especially when it results in the elimination of one debt by incurring another ..."

Which, to be pedantic, isn't necessarily what's going on with these crowdfunding projects, as we're all aware of what's going on.

It's basically a case of "do you want to see these concepts come to life in figure form? Pay now so we'll produce them and you'll get them, maybe, in 16 months time."

So while it definitely is crowdfunding, it's not necessarily hoodwinking people, and we're entering into the exchange willingly of our own accord, which is why after the Chella debacle, I'm pretty much done with pre-ordering as it's a pointless and tedious experience.

I don't totally disagree, but I don't necessarily feel that anything nefarious is taking place, or that we're being misled. It's basically a case of them needing our money in order to make the concepts that they're selling. A little like the Dragons Den, we're basically the backers, except we're not getting any cut of the profits or the business, and generally we're waiting too long for the product.

I do think that these companies should be more transparent in what they're doing, which is crowdfunding. But I also feel that we should be going into these pre-orders with the knowledge that the products are gonna differ somewhat from the concepts we're being drawn in by, and that production and distribution is gonna be slow, very, very slow. Quality has often been lacking in the final product as well.

Where the Major Pod prevail is in having the funds to back their own lines, but where they fall short is in their dealings with other companies who are totally crowdfunding in the same exact way that the company they're ridiculing is doing, which paints them as hypocrites, which is definitely shady behaviour.

As long as the customer is actually receiving the figure they pre-ordered, with the quality that was promised, in the time specified, allowing for the odd inevitable delay, then I don't suppose it matters what their funds are being used for as long as what they paid for is delivered. That's my take, anyway.