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Post by warriorlynx on Jul 24, 2020 18:29:59 GMT -5
what kinda sucks with warrior is 3 of his biggest storylines, never got a big ppv match. jake turning on him, undertaker and the casket thing, then papa shango and vodoo curse. I never thought about that haha. He wrestled Taker like a dozen times on odd and end shows but yea, I guess they never did have a PPV match. In Warriors whole career though he really only wrestled Rude, Savage and Slaughter on PPV haha Do you mean as Champion or in general? You forget HTM at SS88, Hercules at WM4, |
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 24, 2020 18:31:57 GMT -5
I never thought about that haha. He wrestled Taker like a dozen times on odd and end shows but yea, I guess they never did have a PPV match. In Warriors whole career though he really only wrestled Rude, Savage and Slaughter on PPV haha Do you mean as Champion or in general? You forget HTM at SS88, Hercules at WM4, No I know, I was just exaggerating haha. |
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 24, 2020 18:42:59 GMT -5
The Mega Powers storyline was that damn good lads.....people were invested and were foaming at the mouth to see Savage get his. Masterful storytelling by Vince.
1st wrinkle was at Summerslam 88...my God the patience he had with it. Im going to end up watching all the bullet points of this now on Sunday. What a feud.
as a kid I was like "grrr I hate you Savage kill him Hulkster" for WM6 I didnt know what to think except why are they fighting? Dont think I reneacted that match with my Hasbros either....but Hogan & Savage were killing one another daily LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 23:37:09 GMT -5
Wrestling was way more popular in 89 than 90. In fact 89 was the last real popular year until 97 or 98. The years in between I liked for the most part, but the business wasn’t on fire from 90-96.
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Post by Gorilla on Jul 28, 2020 18:59:51 GMT -5
I'm going to go out and say Warrior wasn't as over as people make out.
Randy Savage was a legitimate start like Hogan
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Post by themonsteramongus on Jul 28, 2020 20:39:30 GMT -5
Because Warrior was not a mega star like Savage.
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Post by JokerFC on Jul 29, 2020 13:50:56 GMT -5
Do you all think Vince pulled the trigger too quickly on Warrior.
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Post by moonpies88 on Jul 29, 2020 14:27:33 GMT -5
Do you all think Vince pulled the trigger too quickly on Warrior. not really. What else could he have done, when would he have gotten the title unless you give Big Bossman or Rude or Earthquake the title then feed one of them to Warrior |
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Post by themonsteramongus on Jul 29, 2020 14:29:44 GMT -5
Do you all think Vince pulled the trigger too quickly on Warrior. In a sense. But Vince was really between a rock and a hard place. Hogan was going to leave and there was no bigger star on the roster besides Hogan than Warrior at the time. I do think he held the belt way too long. |
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Post by jking1979 on Jul 29, 2020 15:27:24 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior should have evolved with his character just like his old partner Sting did in 1996.
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Post by PVA on Aug 7, 2020 7:08:59 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior should have evolved with his character just like his old partner Sting did in 1996. I’d argue Warrior did evolve. Not quite as drastic as Sting. But Warrior Clearly Evolved his appearance from 87 to adding more colors and logos in 89 to trying to humanize the character in 90 with less face paint and adde more airbrush attires in 91/92. In 1996 he incorporated self promotion with his comic and even in 98 attempted to adapt to a less cartoon era by wearing jeans and trench coat when not wrestling. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 9, 2020 8:50:54 GMT -5
I’ve always felt that Hogan/Macho at WM5 was the “peak” of the 80s wrestling boom. Yes, it was still insanely popular for a few more year, but as we can see with the difference in buy rates that wrestling started to loose some steam after that match. Throw in it being the culmination of an amazing story and you can see why buy rates dropped.
Hogan/Warrior still did amazing buys, but it just didn’t have the amazing story behind it that Hulk and Randy has.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 9, 2020 22:43:35 GMT -5
I’ve always felt that Hogan/Macho at WM5 was the “peak” of the 80s wrestling boom. Yes, it was still insanely popular for a few more year, but as we can see with the difference in buy rates that wrestling started to loose some steam after that match. Throw in it being the culmination of an amazing story and you can see why buy rates dropped. Hogan/Warrior still did amazing buys, but it just didn’t have the amazing story behind it that Hulk and Randy has. Some people feel the '80's Boom Period peaked at WrestleMania III. Sure the WWF was still making money and business was still great come 1989. The WWF's business was beginning to decline at the end of 1989 but it wasn't all that noticeable to the viewer. Hogan/Warrior is a good example why Vince McMahon doesn't like doing babyface/babyface main event matches. Pat Patterson mentioned on one of the Legends Roundtable's on WWE 24/7 that Hogan told him after that he had deep regrets dropping the title to Warrior. Did Vince pull the trigger too soon? No, not at all. It was time for another guy to run with the ball. Did it pay off in the end, no. Just researching Warrior's reign, I feel it was nothing more as an experiment. A more recent example is Triple H and John Cena. They gave Cena the ball when Triple H reformed DX with Shawn Michaels to keep him out of the title scene. Same situation with Hogan post-WrestleMania VI. To the original post, WrestleMania VI had a lower buyrate because business was beginning to decline. A really good indicator is how many tickets were originally sold for WrestleMania VII. The business was still red hot in 1989. You had one of the first soap opera-esque storyline with Hogan and Savage which was storytelling at it's finest. The fans really didn't get tired of Hogan towards the back end of 1991. The issue was Warrior wasn't this big draw the company had hoped for. Business suffered as a result. Looking back, Warrior was a placeholder champion. He successor, Sgt. Slaughter was a mere transitional champion. Hogan got the belt back at WrestleMania VII and the rest is history. |
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