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Post by moonpies88 on Jul 23, 2020 9:04:07 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 5 buyrate: 767,000 Wrestlemania 6 buyrate: 560,000
i think overall the card was better for Mania 5 , but why weren't more people into Hogan/Warrior
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 23, 2020 9:50:35 GMT -5
In 1990 wrestling was slowly losing its steam for being popular. It got less popular as each year went on up until 1998 when it got so huge and popular again.
So it wasn't that Warrior and Hogan didn't draw, just the amount of numbers it did was probably the amount of fans at the time who were invested into watching WWE and wrestling in general then.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 9:52:33 GMT -5
Savage/Hogan was a bitter, personal, hate filled angle that had been building for a year. Hogan/Warrior was a babyface dream match and sometimes the "what if" scenario doesn't draw nearly as well as when you want to see two people settle a personal issue.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 9:58:57 GMT -5
I honestly never knew it DIDNT draw as good. I remember at the time, being in elementary school, it was the biggest thing ever haha. We couldn’t even imagine what would happen if 2 “good guys” wrestled each other.
To this day, in my life, that’s the greatest main event ever at ‘Mania because it was so awesome to see. If you watch it back now, the older it gets the more fictional it looks haha. It almost looks like a fantasy wrestling match
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Post by LA Times on Jul 23, 2020 12:04:54 GMT -5
I honestly never knew it DIDNT draw as good. I remember at the time, being in elementary school, it was the biggest thing ever haha. We couldn’t even imagine what would happen if 2 “good guys” wrestled each other. To this day, in my life, that’s the greatest main event ever at ‘Mania because it was so awesome to see. If you watch it back now, the older it gets the more fictional it looks haha. It almost looks like a fantasy wrestling match Hogan vs Warrior did fill up 67,000 seats at the Toronto Skydome, so in a way it did outdraw Hogan vs Savage a year earlier. Even though the match wasnt that great, the buildup to it was awesome.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 13:12:02 GMT -5
I honestly never knew it DIDNT draw as good. I remember at the time, being in elementary school, it was the biggest thing ever haha. We couldn’t even imagine what would happen if 2 “good guys” wrestled each other. To this day, in my life, that’s the greatest main event ever at ‘Mania because it was so awesome to see. If you watch it back now, the older it gets the more fictional it looks haha. It almost looks like a fantasy wrestling match Hogan vs Warrior did fill up 67,000 seats at the Toronto Skydome, so in a way it did outdraw Hogan vs Savage a year earlier. Even though the match wasnt that great, the buildup to it was awesome. It also was the first time they went overseas so that could have increased sales since it was so rare but it also could have hurt sales since its a lot harder for US fans to travel over borders.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 23, 2020 13:17:14 GMT -5
Hogan vs Warrior did fill up 67,000 seats at the Toronto Skydome, so in a way it did outdraw Hogan vs Savage a year earlier. Even though the match wasnt that great, the buildup to it was awesome. It also was the first time they went overseas so that could have increased sales since it was so rare but it also could have hurt sales since its a lot harder for US fans to travel over borders. Wrestlemania wasnt a big a spectacle then as it is now, so I dont think it had much effect on ticket sales. Most of the audience in Toronto was local.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 15:41:28 GMT -5
It also was the first time they went overseas so that could have increased sales since it was so rare but it also could have hurt sales since its a lot harder for US fans to travel over borders. Wrestlemania wasnt a big a spectacle then as it is now, so I dont think it had much effect on ticket sales. Most of the audience in Toronto was local. Very true. I guess at that time they had only had 5 and at that time they probably were just wondering how long they could keep this going, almost like a sequel to a movie as opposed to an annual event like the super bowl
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 16:10:25 GMT -5
along with reasons others have givin, hogan/savage had such a storyline to it as well. the NBC match with the break-up and all was HUGE for promotion of that event. the mega-powers break up over Miss Liz got even my family interested and watching. soap opera stuff!
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Post by The Brain on Jul 23, 2020 16:19:10 GMT -5
Nothing against the Warrior/Hogan feud but I personally was more invested in Savage/Hogan.The roots started in the Fall of 87 and culminated in the Spring of 89.Man storytelling at it's finest.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 16:43:22 GMT -5
Savage Hogan could have headlined endless shows, I honestly wish they did more. I do like in the old days how they were always kinda aware of one another, Like the rivalry was always there...they did that well back in the day.
I’ll never forget, one of my favorite continuity things in wrestling is in the ‘92 Rumble. There’s a shot of Hogan in the corner and you can see Piper coming up behind him like he’s gonna attack him, But then he gets cut off. Even though both were faces it’s like...yea but I hate Hogan still haha. I love that
We should do a watch along on here some time. Like fire up a PPV on the network and make a topic where we can all chat about it while we watch. Talk about the show, figs, memories, whatever haha
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Post by moonpies88 on Jul 23, 2020 17:58:33 GMT -5
Savage Hogan could have headlined endless shows, I honestly wish they did more. I do like in the old days how they were always kinda aware of one another, Like the rivalry was always there...they did that well back in the day. I’ll never forget, one of my favorite continuity things in wrestling is in the ‘92 Rumble. There’s a shot of Hogan in the corner and you can see Piper coming up behind him like he’s gonna attack him, But then he gets cut off. Even though both were faces it’s like...yea but I hate Hogan still haha. I love that We should do a watch along on here some time. Like fire up a PPV on the network and make a topic where we can all chat about it while we watch. Talk about the show, figs, memories, whatever haha I'm down to watch 92 rumble. This is actually a really great idea
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Post by The Brain on Jul 23, 2020 18:03:36 GMT -5
Savage Hogan could have headlined endless shows, I honestly wish they did more. I do like in the old days how they were always kinda aware of one another, Like the rivalry was always there...they did that well back in the day. I’ll never forget, one of my favorite continuity things in wrestling is in the ‘92 Rumble. There’s a shot of Hogan in the corner and you can see Piper coming up behind him like he’s gonna attack him, But then he gets cut off. Even though both were faces it’s like...yea but I hate Hogan still haha. I love that We should do a watch along on here some time. Like fire up a PPV on the network and make a topic where we can all chat about it while we watch. Talk about the show, figs, memories, whatever hahaAlready beat ya to it brother BATB 96 is on tap this Saturday night at 7 PM EST. You're more than welcome to join. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/360199/brains-retro-watch-night?page=150
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 18:08:34 GMT -5
Savage Hogan could have headlined endless shows, I honestly wish they did more. I do like in the old days how they were always kinda aware of one another, Like the rivalry was always there...they did that well back in the day. I’ll never forget, one of my favorite continuity things in wrestling is in the ‘92 Rumble. There’s a shot of Hogan in the corner and you can see Piper coming up behind him like he’s gonna attack him, But then he gets cut off. Even though both were faces it’s like...yea but I hate Hogan still haha. I love that We should do a watch along on here some time. Like fire up a PPV on the network and make a topic where we can all chat about it while we watch. Talk about the show, figs, memories, whatever hahaAlready beat ya to it brother BATB 96 is on tap this Saturday night at 7 PM EST. You're more than welcome to join. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/360199/brains-retro-watch-night?page=150Ahhh you’re the man! I’m gonna check it out right now 👍 Thanks man
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 23, 2020 18:18:09 GMT -5
The Mega Powers was the greatest wrestling story ever told. People were starting to get a little tired of Hulkamania at the time and even though Warrior was way over he never seemed like the type of character you'd build the company around. It was definitely an intriguing matchup because you werent sure if the torch was gonna be passed or not but you werent as invested as you were a year prior.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 18:34:43 GMT -5
The Mega Powers was the greatest wrestling story ever told. People were starting to get a little tired of Hulkamania at the time and even though Warrior was way over he never seemed like the type of character you'd build the company around. It was definitely an intriguing matchup because you werent sure if the torch was gonna be passed or not but you werent as invested as you were a year prior. Admittedly...Warrior is my favorite haha. Having said that yea to me Warrior was always like WWF Suger. He’s a rush. He’s a concentrated dose of excitement and his career happened in bursts which suited him. By the time the act started to wear thin, he was gone. Storytelling was never really gonna suit him and so guys like Savage were much more suited for the long haul. Warrior/ Hogan was a bowl of WrestleMania suger haha. It wouldn’t be good all the time, but it was great that time
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 23, 2020 19:00:28 GMT -5
Without reading replies (and Ill go back and read them after I post) Im going to automatically assume that we're going to say Hogan was bland or Hogan did this or Hogan did that....Simply put the reason it didnt get over as big is because the merging of the Mania & Madness and the inevitable Mega Powers exploding is by far the most well written, well played out story line in the history of professional wrestling and it was done by the two biggest names in the biggest wrestling company in the world. Every single piece of it played out absolutely perfect.
SNME XII to Wrestlemania V should be the standard on how all wrestling storylines should be written. Its the Constitution of Professional Wrestling
And amazingly enough, if you think about it, it was just a continuation of another great storyline of the Hogan-Andre saga.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 20:44:36 GMT -5
The Mega Powers was the greatest wrestling story ever told. People were starting to get a little tired of Hulkamania at the time and even though Warrior was way over he never seemed like the type of character you'd build the company around. It was definitely an intriguing matchup because you werent sure if the torch was gonna be passed or not but you werent as invested as you were a year prior. Admittedly...Warrior is my favorite haha. Having said that yea to me Warrior was always like WWF Suger. He’s a rush. He’s a concentrated dose of excitement and his career happened in bursts which suited him. By the time the act started to wear thin, he was gone. Storytelling was never really gonna suit him and so guys like Savage were much more suited for the long haul. Warrior/ Hogan was a bowl of WrestleMania suger haha. It wouldn’t be good all the time, but it was great that time what kinda sucks with warrior is 3 of his biggest storylines, never got a big ppv match. jake turning on him, undertaker and the casket thing, then papa shango and vodoo curse.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2020 20:56:05 GMT -5
Admittedly...Warrior is my favorite haha. Having said that yea to me Warrior was always like WWF Suger. He’s a rush. He’s a concentrated dose of excitement and his career happened in bursts which suited him. By the time the act started to wear thin, he was gone. Storytelling was never really gonna suit him and so guys like Savage were much more suited for the long haul. Warrior/ Hogan was a bowl of WrestleMania suger haha. It wouldn’t be good all the time, but it was great that time what kinda sucks with warrior is 3 of his biggest storylines, never got a big ppv match. jake turning on him, undertaker and the casket thing, then papa shango and vodoo curse. I never thought about that haha. He wrestled Taker like a dozen times on odd and end shows but yea, I guess they never did have a PPV match. In Warriors whole career though he really only wrestled Rude, Savage and Slaughter on PPV haha
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Post by warriorlynx on Jul 24, 2020 18:27:01 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 5 buyrate: 767,000 Wrestlemania 6 buyrate: 560,000
i think overall the card was better for Mania 5 , but why weren't more people into Hogan/Warrior
Reason 1: Babyface vs. Babyface, unless you're into comic books and were a late Gen-X/early Millennial, Boomers and others weren't as interested in this kind of Wrestlemania main event that would justify the buy. Reason 2: Mania's card as you mention was solid, Jake vs. Andre, Piper's return, Demolition vs. PoP, Warrior vs. Rude and of course the the big one, which gave you the feeling of realism with a storyline about two besties and the girl next door.
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