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Post by crush on Jul 29, 2020 15:04:16 GMT -5
The Mountie is a No (as per Bill's comment a while back- he clearly stated that a Mountie figure will never happen) Mr. Fuji is likely a No as well. His daughter (who is in charge of his estate) joined the concussion lawsuit very late and there has been no merch of Fuji. Topps has had the WWE trading card liecnse since 2005 and have not released even 1 card of Mr. Fuji so it looks like she might not be interested in signing a legends deal with WWE. I think the time for getting figures of even some of these guys has come and gone. If they haven't bothered to sign any one of these wrestlers in the 10 years that Mattel has had the license then why would they sign them now?! Factor in what stc13 stated that WWE seem to be moving away from legends (except the big names) and it seems more doubtful that any of the legends listed in the OP will be signed.
How do you know that Bill has requested any of the names people are asking for?! He doesn't like this forum so I doubt if he cares enough to submit official request for the niche, lower level talent that most on here keep requesting and would like to see figures of. I am starting to wonder if Valentine getting made was actually Steve's doing as he is the one who seems to be more in the corner of collectors and doing whatever he can to keep people happy (and to keep buying figures ![;)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wink.gif) ). At one point, I recall reading on here that Bill was making fun of the quite vocal bunch that kept asking for Greg Valentine to be made. Following Bill on social media and listening to him interviews and etc. I think the one thing he absolutely can't be accused of is "not caring" either about the line or niche wrestling personalities.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 15:06:54 GMT -5
I feel like the FTITL magic is on its last breath. In the past couple of years, for Legends we've gotten Gorilla, Muraco, Superstar, Blassie, Valentine ... and a Mr. T exclusive. I might be forgetting some.
Those are nice but there's so many others left to do but, like how most feel, the chances of getting say, a Rock n' Roll Express, Powers of Pain or a Midnight Express ... forget it.
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Post by zen411 on Jul 29, 2020 15:13:46 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why they think powers of pain won't be happening?
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 29, 2020 15:21:24 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why they think powers of pain won't be happening? Both the Warlord and Barbarian were on the concussion lawsuit against the WWE. Not sure if the lawsuit/case has ended, last I heard is it was sent to appeals court. As long as the concussion lawsuit is happening no one on it will get a figure.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 29, 2020 15:36:57 GMT -5
My main wants...
The Steiner Brothers (I assume Scott is the hold up)
Midnight Express (Seems realistic enough)
Nikita Koloff (not a household name, but made more than enough of an impact)
To a lesser extent...
Rock n Roll Express (WWE HOF inductees so I don't see why not)
Val Venis (maybe an issue, but I don't see why)
Dynamite Kid (no idea there)
Koko B Ware (So close yet so far away)
Power n Glory (could happen)
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Post by Dr. Frasier Crane on Jul 29, 2020 15:57:41 GMT -5
Some of my biggest wants. Bruiser Brody David Von Erich Gino Hernandez Chris Adams The Rock n Roll Express The Midnight Express The Fabulous Freebirds Tony Atlas Andy Kaufman Ernie Ladd Nikita Koloff Ivan Koloff Mil Mascaras
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Post by zen411 on Jul 29, 2020 17:00:36 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me why they think powers of pain won't be happening? Both the Warlord and Barbarian were on the concussion lawsuit against the WWE. Not sure if the lawsuit/case has ended, last I heard is it was sent to appeals court. As long as the concussion lawsuit is happening no one on it will get a figure. Who has a list of all of the people on the lawsuit?
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Post by mcfclee on Jul 29, 2020 17:52:49 GMT -5
The rate may be slowing but there’s still lots of names I want. Some harder to get than others but I feel like Mattel will make a genuine attempt to keep chipping away at these. Sure they made a few mistakes and missed opportunities, but they’ve nailed way more great figures so I try not to be a baby about missing some. Anyway my list of wants that keep me interested.
Sable Mero Val Al snow Grandmaster sexay Fuji Steiners Mountie/quebecers Smoking Gunns Barbarian Haku Power and glory Debra Double J Buff Bagwell Sabu Tazz Raven Mike Awesome Jesse Ventura Genius Sandman Dreamer Dynamite kid Holly cousins Mideon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 21:20:24 GMT -5
Both the Warlord and Barbarian were on the concussion lawsuit against the WWE. Not sure if the lawsuit/case has ended, last I heard is it was sent to appeals court. As long as the concussion lawsuit is happening no one on it will get a figure. Who has a list of all of the people on the lawsuit?
This may not be the full list but these are most of the wrestlers involved:
2 Cold Scorpio Adam Bomb Ahmed Johnson Angelo Mosca Axl Rotten Balls Mahoney Barbarian Boris Zhukov Butch Reed Chavo Guerrero Chavo Guerrero Jr. Dave Hebner Demolition (Ax & Smash) Don Leo Jonathan Earl Hebner Henry Godwinn Jazz Jim Brunzell Jim Powers Jimmy Snuka JJ Funk John Heidenreich John Nord (The Berzerker) Johnny the Bull Judy Martin Kamala Ken Patera King Kong Bundy Mark Jindrak Marty Jannetty Mike Enos Mr. Fuji Muhammad Hassan Omar Atlas One Man Gang Paul Orndorff Perry Saturn Princess Victoria Rex King Road Warrior Animal Rodny Mack Ron Bass Sabu Shane Douglas Slick Sue Green Sylvain Grenier Tracy Smothers The Warlord
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Post by zen411 on Jul 29, 2020 22:05:45 GMT -5
Who has a list of all of the people on the lawsuit?
This may not be the full list but these are most of the wrestlers involved:
2 Cold Scorpio Adam Bomb Ahmed Johnson Angelo Mosca Axl Rotten Balls Mahoney Barbarian Boris Zhukov Butch Reed Chavo Guerrero Chavo Guerrero Jr. Dave Hebner Demolition (Ax & Smash) Don Leo Jonathan Earl Hebner Henry Godwinn Jazz Jim Brunzell Jim Powers Jimmy Snuka JJ Funk John Heidenreich John Nord (The Berzerker) Johnny the Bull Judy Martin Kamala Ken Patera King Kong Bundy Mark Jindrak Marty Jannetty Mike Enos Mr. Fuji Muhammad Hassan Omar Atlas One Man Gang Paul Orndorff Perry Saturn Princess Victoria Rex King Road Warrior Animal Rodny Mack Ron Bass Sabu Shane Douglas Slick Sue Green Sylvain Grenier Tracy Smothers The Warlord Its remarkable how similar my wants list is to that list. Not sure orndorff got a figure in legends 8 and berserker not too long ago. I want powers of pain, one man gang, slick, fuji, another demolition and lod so badly.
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Post by stc13 on Jul 29, 2020 22:19:59 GMT -5
This may not be the full list but these are most of the wrestlers involved:
Its remarkable how similar my wants list is to that list. Not sure orndorff got a figure in legends 8 and berserker not too long ago. I want powers of pain, one man gang, slick, fuji, another demolition and lod so badly. We're never going to hear anything concrete, but my assumption is that Legends deals were offered to some workers to weaken the case. Orndorff and Mabel's estate signed deals while the suit was ongoing. The case is technically on its last appeal, but it's dead in the water and was ripped apart by the judge. My guess is that the financial incentive for WWE to sign any of these guys is gone now that the case is pretty much dead. Only exception might be the Road Warriors, because they've always been big merch sellers, but Animal has a long standing grudge, so I don't see that happening either. Bezerker and Warlord were the last two concussion suit figures to be released, iirc. They were both far enough along in production that the figures were released even though the crap had been filed.
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Post by zen411 on Jul 30, 2020 1:58:03 GMT -5
Its remarkable how similar my wants list is to that list. Not sure orndorff got a figure in legends 8 and berserker not too long ago. I want powers of pain, one man gang, slick, fuji, another demolition and lod so badly. We're never going to hear anything concrete, but my assumption is that Legends deals were offered to some workers to weaken the case. Orndorff and Mabel's estate signed deals while the suit was ongoing. The case is technically on its last appeal, but it's dead in the water and was ripped apart by the judge. My guess is that the financial incentive for WWE to sign any of these guys is gone now that the case is pretty much dead. Only exception might be the Road Warriors, because they've always been big merch sellers, but Animal has a long standing grudge, so I don't see that happening either. Bezerker and Warlord were the last two concussion suit figures to be released, iirc. They were both far enough along in production that the figures were released even though the crap had been filed. Thanks for the info. Im selfishly hoping more get signed to deals including hall of fame. I want my figures!
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Post by MKSavage on Jul 30, 2020 3:24:52 GMT -5
Its remarkable how similar my wants list is to that list. Not sure orndorff got a figure in legends 8 and berserker not too long ago. I want powers of pain, one man gang, slick, fuji, another demolition and lod so badly. We're never going to hear anything concrete, but my assumption is that Legends deals were offered to some workers to weaken the case. Orndorff and Mabel's estate signed deals while the suit was ongoing. The case is technically on its last appeal, but it's dead in the water and was ripped apart by the judge. My guess is that the financial incentive for WWE to sign any of these guys is gone now that the case is pretty much dead. Only exception might be the Road Warriors, because they've always been big merch sellers, but Animal has a long standing grudge, so I don't see that happening either. Bezerker and Warlord were the last two concussion suit figures to be released, iirc. They were both far enough along in production that the figures were released even though the crap had been filed. Wasn't Koko B Ware also on the concussion lawsuit? I remember hearing that a figure for him and the Barbarian were in the works around the same time as the Warlord and Berzerker but the reason they didn't get released was they were not as far along in the production process when the concussion lawsuit hit.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jul 30, 2020 5:53:35 GMT -5
My top wants have been the same for years
Steiner Brothers & British Bulldogs. Seeing Davey gave me a little bit of hope, but I’m not holding my breath for Dynamite.
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Post by PJ on Jul 30, 2020 6:14:09 GMT -5
From the OP’s list my must haves are in order of importance... Dynamite Kid - Both WM2 & WM3 attires Rick Steiner - Both WM9 & GAB ‘90 attires Scott Steiner - Both WM9 & GAB ‘90 attires Nikita Koloff - red singlet Jesse Ventura - pink flower print tights
Ones I would definitely, buy if made, but are not must haves... Haku Brody Captain Lou One Man Gang Mr Fuji (Ring attire) The Mountie Hercules Shane Douglas Taz
Must haves not on the OP list... Pedro Morales - red & orange trunks and jacket Ivan Koloff - red singlet David Von Erich - green trunks Fabulous Freebirds - black trunks Midnight Express (Eaton and Lane preferably) the same attire as their Jakks CSTT. US Express (not new but I need them on my shelves)
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Post by PJ on Jul 30, 2020 6:21:49 GMT -5
This may not be the full list but these are most of the wrestlers involved: 2 Cold Scorpio Adam Bomb Ahmed Johnson Angelo Mosca Axl Rotten Balls Mahoney Barbarian Boris Zhukov Butch Reed Chavo Guerrero Chavo Guerrero Jr. Dave Hebner Demolition (Ax & Smash) Don Leo Jonathan Earl Hebner Henry Godwinn Jazz Jim Brunzell Jim Powers Jimmy Snuka JJ Funk John Heidenreich John Nord (The Berzerker) Johnny the Bull Judy Martin Kamala Ken Patera King Kong Bundy Mark Jindrak Marty Jannetty Mike Enos Mr. Fuji Muhammad Hassan Omar Atlas One Man Gang Paul Orndorff Perry Saturn Princess Victoria Rex King Road Warrior Animal Rodny Mack Ron Bass Sabu Shane Douglas Slick Sue Green Sylvain Grenier Tracy Smothers The Warlord Its remarkable how similar my wants list is to that list. Not sure orndorff got a figure in legends 8 and berserker not too long ago. I want powers of pain, one man gang, slick, fuji, another demolition and lod so badly. Orndorff was definitely on the lawsuit. I mentioned in another thread that with Orndorff getting the figure in L8 maybe the WWE is willing to work with them again?
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Post by Gorilla on Jul 30, 2020 7:19:29 GMT -5
Some of my biggest wants. Bruiser Brody David Von Erich Gino Hernandez Chris Adams The Rock n Roll Express The Midnight Express The Fabulous Freebirds Tony Atlas Andy Kaufman Ernie Ladd Nikita Koloff Ivan Koloff Mil Mascaras I'm not sure why some people think a guy like Gino would be made. I'm 38 and had never heard of him until Dark Side of the Ring. He's not a WWE guy. Here's my take on OPs original list: Haku - Yes, but not until New Japan contract ends Zeus - yes. Zeus would make a great figure. Brody - no. He was murdered. He wasn't a WWE guy Captain Lou - yes. He as a massive part of WWE history Jesse Ventura - yes, see above One Man Gang - yes. They mocked one up previously. Great look, iconic wrestler and a good person. I'm sure they will get past the lawsuit Slick - yes, if he wants one. He's been involved with WWE over the years in his classic slick role. So being a minister/pastor won't hold him back Mr Fuji - maybe, depends on his family Brother Love - yes. Prichard lives money and this gimmick. Iconic gimmick The Genius - yes. He's on good terms with WWE. He will get a figure through being Randy's better The Mountie - maybe, but it won't look like the figure you all want. It can't have any likeness to the RCMP or be called the Mountie Rougeau Brothers - maybe, depends on Jacques. Raymond has a great relationship with WWE. Dynamite Kid - maybe, but I lean towards yes. Why make Davey Boy without Dynamite Kid? Rock n Roll Express - likely no, not WWE guys or guys the casual fan knows or would care about Steiners - maybe, depends on Scott. He's nuts and hates WWE and Triple H Bad News Brown - yes. Iconic wrestler in 80s and 90s Hercules - yes. Huge part of the 80s and 90s. Just stay away from the slave stuff!!! Koko B ware - yes. Fan favorite low card/jobber in the 80s and 90s Shane Douglas - no. Giant Gonzalez - yes, iconic look. Abdullah the Butcher - no, not really a wwe guy Smoking Gunns - yes, but after Billy Gunn leaves AEW. Test - yes, great look, good wrestler for a big guy. Does relationship with Steph hold him back? Repo Man - yes, once Demolition get in good terms with WWE Kona Crush - yes. Crush had a figure not that long ago, after the legends line. Taz - maybe, depends on his relationship with WWE Sabu - maybe, but likely no due to not being that popular and from a violent era Nikita Koloff - likely not. He's not a wwe guy. Some others: Killer Bees Boris Zhukov Paul Roma Brooklyn Brawler Val Venis Powers of Pain Barbarian singles run Nailz Ken Patera Outlaw Ron Bass Butch Reed Dino Bravo Orient Express Rugged Ronnie Garvin Barry Horowitz
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Post by Dr. Frasier Crane on Jul 30, 2020 9:25:08 GMT -5
For the record. Magnum TA and Kevin Von Erich were not "WWE Guys"
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Post by stc13 on Jul 30, 2020 10:09:01 GMT -5
For the record. Magnum TA and Kevin Von Erich were not "WWE Guys" But that was a long time ago when those figures were designed (even though Magnum finally got released much later). At the time they had bought up regional tape libraries and were pushing classic content as a big selling point for dvd's and later the network. Those days are long gone and WWE's branding strategy has totally shifted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 10:23:52 GMT -5
Some of my wants are probably too obscure for modern fans and collectors. Missing Link Kim Chee/Friday Bill Eadie as either Masked Superstar or Super Machine
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