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Post by snowjorden on Aug 5, 2020 13:42:08 GMT -5
if bischoff called 3 minutes on someone and Jacob Fatu and Lance Anoa'i came out as the new Samoan Swat Team, I wouldn't be unhappy! Now that would be awesome. Only if Fatu didn't sign that silly 5 year agreement with MLW. What was he thinking? Pretty sure the MLW contracts might as well have been written on toilet paper, from the talk I've read about them. So not sure that'd even be an obstacle. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 14:49:52 GMT -5
If booked right, I might be onboard with Bischoff being a manager giving meta commentary on the state of wrestling, but I have zero interest in him giving creative input.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 15:19:24 GMT -5
Pretty damn cool.
Really excited for tonight’s show. Had the moderator thing spoiled for me on accident looking at Twitter. I don’t hate it because I like the guy
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 15:25:05 GMT -5
I'm not weary of the segment because of the moderator. I'm worried it'll be more WWE-ish stuff from Jericho. The beginning of this feud was so much better when Jericho was simply annoyed at OC and balanced out the comedy. He's walking a fine line of being far too silly. Inner Circle is the big heel faction and they're doing comedy every week. It's one thing if Jericho is silly from time to time, but Ortiz and Sammy can't be taken seriously right now. They must be a badass faction.
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:08:14 GMT -5
I'm not weary of the segment because of the moderator. I'm worried it'll be more WWE-ish stuff from Jericho. The beginning of this feud was so much better when Jericho was simply annoyed at OC and balanced out the comedy. He's walking a fine line of being far too silly. Inner Circle is the big heel faction and they're doing comedy every week. It's one thing if Jericho is silly from time to time, but Ortiz and Sammy can't be taken seriously right now. They must be a badass faction. For me personally. I think Jericho is dragging AEW down a little bit, i thought the inner circle was good at first when they were just a bunch of bungholes. I feel like it's gotten silly now, with some of the "comedy skits" they have done in the past. The one where there having gifts from Jericho comes to mind. I don't want to see Jericho screaming CASSIDY! CASSIDY! Non stop. LAX have become a bit of a letdown to me personally. I preferred it when there were the muscle of the inner circle, not deaf and afraid of water. I really don't like this forced humour stuff in wrestling. WWE. AEW And now Impact. I cringed so hard at wrestle house! It's embarrassing. |
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Post by Angusdacat on Aug 5, 2020 16:14:52 GMT -5
I'm not weary of the segment because of the moderator. I'm worried it'll be more WWE-ish stuff from Jericho. The beginning of this feud was so much better when Jericho was simply annoyed at OC and balanced out the comedy. He's walking a fine line of being far too silly. Inner Circle is the big heel faction and they're doing comedy every week. It's one thing if Jericho is silly from time to time, but Ortiz and Sammy can't be taken seriously right now. They must be a badass faction. For me personally. I think Jericho is dragging AEW down a little bit, i thought the inner circle was good at first when they were just a bunch of bungholes. I feel like it's gotten silly now, with some of the "comedy skits" they have done in the past. The one where there having gifts from Jericho comes to mind. I don't want to see Jericho screaming CASSIDY! CASSIDY! Non stop. LAX have become a bit of a letdown to me personally. I preferred it when there were the muscle of the inner circle, not deaf and afraid of water. I really don't like this forced humour stuff in wrestling. WWE. AEW And now Impact. I cringed so hard at wrestle house! It's embarrassing. People like to point out that Jericho has always been comedic but the thing is that before, Jericho didn't know how funny he was and was still pursuing his goals and points, which is what made it funny. In his last WWE run he started realizing he was funny and it lost some of its authenticity and now in AEW he's gone overboard. He thinks that he can do anything and make it funny now which is exactly why its not funny. I miss the Inner Circle when they were in a blood feud with Cody and pals towards the beginning of Dynamite. Now they feel like a mid-card comedy stable that makes The New Day look like a major threat |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 16:16:50 GMT -5
I'm not weary of the segment because of the moderator. I'm worried it'll be more WWE-ish stuff from Jericho. The beginning of this feud was so much better when Jericho was simply annoyed at OC and balanced out the comedy. He's walking a fine line of being far too silly. Inner Circle is the big heel faction and they're doing comedy every week. It's one thing if Jericho is silly from time to time, but Ortiz and Sammy can't be taken seriously right now. They must be a badass faction. For me personally. I think Jericho is dragging AEW down a little bit, i thought the inner circle was good at first when they were just a bunch of bungholes. I feel like it's gotten silly now, with some of the "comedy skits" they have done in the past. The one where there having gifts from Jericho comes to mind. I don't want to see Jericho screaming CASSIDY! CASSIDY! Non stop. LAX have become a bit of a letdown to me personally. I preferred it when there were the muscle of the inner circle, not deaf and afraid of water. I really don't like this forced humour stuff in wrestling. WWE. AEW And now Impact. I cringed so hard at wrestle house! It's embarrassing. If Jericho is going to be doing his thing and doing what he thinks is cool and funny, the rest of the group MUST be badasses. Santana & Ortiz don't feel dangerous. Hager is Hager (his floor and ceiling are near identical). Sammy might as well be a jobber, he needs a fresh coat of paint really bad. |
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:17:57 GMT -5
For me personally. I think Jericho is dragging AEW down a little bit, i thought the inner circle was good at first when they were just a bunch of bungholes. I feel like it's gotten silly now, with some of the "comedy skits" they have done in the past. The one where there having gifts from Jericho comes to mind. I don't want to see Jericho screaming CASSIDY! CASSIDY! Non stop. LAX have become a bit of a letdown to me personally. I preferred it when there were the muscle of the inner circle, not deaf and afraid of water. I really don't like this forced humour stuff in wrestling. WWE. AEW And now Impact. I cringed so hard at wrestle house! It's embarrassing. People like to point out that Jericho has always been comedic but the thing is that before, Jericho didn't know how funny he was and was still pursuing his goals and points, which is what made it funny. In his last WWE run he started realizing he was funny and it lost some of its authenticity and now in AEW he's gone overboard. He thinks that he can do anything and make it funny now which is exactly why its not funny. I miss the Inner Circle when they were in a blood feud with Cody and pals towards the beginning of Dynamite. Now they feel like a mid-card comedy stable that makes The New Day look like a major threat I agree with you. 100% It feels like he's become some sort of parody of his self. You could that when he introduce the lexicon of le champion! Urgh, i feel like AEW would be better of without him sometimes. They also made Hagar look stupid with his poetry skit.  that! I want to see go ape shot and attack everybody, as he should as monster heel. |
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:19:37 GMT -5
For me personally. I think Jericho is dragging AEW down a little bit, i thought the inner circle was good at first when they were just a bunch of bungholes. I feel like it's gotten silly now, with some of the "comedy skits" they have done in the past. The one where there having gifts from Jericho comes to mind. I don't want to see Jericho screaming CASSIDY! CASSIDY! Non stop. LAX have become a bit of a letdown to me personally. I preferred it when there were the muscle of the inner circle, not deaf and afraid of water. I really don't like this forced humour stuff in wrestling. WWE. AEW And now Impact. I cringed so hard at wrestle house! It's embarrassing. If Jericho is going to be doing his thing and doing what he thinks is cool and funny, the rest of the group MUST be badasses. Santana & Ortiz don't feel dangerous. Hager is Hager (his floor and ceiling are near identical). Sammy might as well be a jobber, he needs a fresh coat of paint really bad. It didn't help when he started singing Jericho's song, urgh it's more like the inner circle jerk right now. Than this group of nasty individuals in the beginning. |
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Post by Angusdacat on Aug 5, 2020 16:20:30 GMT -5
People like to point out that Jericho has always been comedic but the thing is that before, Jericho didn't know how funny he was and was still pursuing his goals and points, which is what made it funny. In his last WWE run he started realizing he was funny and it lost some of its authenticity and now in AEW he's gone overboard. He thinks that he can do anything and make it funny now which is exactly why its not funny. I miss the Inner Circle when they were in a blood feud with Cody and pals towards the beginning of Dynamite. Now they feel like a mid-card comedy stable that makes The New Day look like a major threat I agree with you. 100% It feels like he's become some sort of parody of his self. You could that when he introduce the lexicon of le champion! Urgh, i feel like AEW would be better of without him sometimes. They also made Hagar look stupid with his poetry skit. that! I want to see go ape shot and attack everybody, as he should as monster heel. It doesn't help when you know that none of them are actually going to hold any titles in the next year. The world title picture is clearly Moxley, MJF, and soon to be Omega/Page while the tag division will be dominated for the rest of the year by the Bucks/FTR. And of course there's the TV title which Cody will hold as long as he wants to and lose it to someone he thinks should get a rub. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 16:22:29 GMT -5
For me personally. I think Jericho is dragging AEW down a little bit, i thought the inner circle was good at first when they were just a bunch of bungholes. I feel like it's gotten silly now, with some of the "comedy skits" they have done in the past. The one where there having gifts from Jericho comes to mind. I don't want to see Jericho screaming CASSIDY! CASSIDY! Non stop. LAX have become a bit of a letdown to me personally. I preferred it when there were the muscle of the inner circle, not deaf and afraid of water. I really don't like this forced humour stuff in wrestling. WWE. AEW And now Impact. I cringed so hard at wrestle house! It's embarrassing. People like to point out that Jericho has always been comedic but the thing is that before, Jericho didn't know how funny he was and was still pursuing his goals and points, which is what made it funny. In his last WWE run he started realizing he was funny and it lost some of its authenticity and now in AEW he's gone overboard. He thinks that he can do anything and make it funny now which is exactly why its not funny. I miss the Inner Circle when they were in a blood feud with Cody and pals towards the beginning of Dynamite. Now they feel like a mid-card comedy stable that makes The New Day look like a major threat Jericho has always been comedic (except the serial killer in a suit phase), but he never had stooges behind him also being goofy. I think Jericho would be totally tolerable right now if he was a solo act. |
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:24:39 GMT -5
Sorry for triple posting, but another thing i've noticed while watching Dynamite. Why have the butcher and the blade started to dress like drug dealers in the 1980's. Have they been repackaged or something now that Allie is no longer managing them. This worries me, i would like to see AEW be a alternative to WWE but what's happened to them is no different to any other team that would debut for WWE. Start hot then go cold, lose there identity and look then soon become a regular team. I'm disappointed because they looked very unique and intimidating, plus there music was kickass!
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 16:25:04 GMT -5
If Jericho is going to be doing his thing and doing what he thinks is cool and funny, the rest of the group MUST be badasses. Santana & Ortiz don't feel dangerous. Hager is Hager (his floor and ceiling are near identical). Sammy might as well be a jobber, he needs a fresh coat of paint really bad. It didn't help when he started singing Jericho's song, urgh it's more like the inner circle jerk right now. Than this group of nasty individuals in the beginning. You hit the nail on the head. This group needs a soft reset in order to be a credible threat. P&P hasn't had a big win in forever, Hager loses every big match he's in, & Sammy is a goober. I have ZERO interest in THIS version of IC being in a Blood and Guts match. Imma chill, I'm kinda making the same point. lol |
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:27:30 GMT -5
I agree with you. 100% It feels like he's become some sort of parody of his self. You could that when he introduce the lexicon of le champion! Urgh, i feel like AEW would be better of without him sometimes. They also made Hagar look stupid with his poetry skit. that! I want to see go ape shot and attack everybody, as he should as monster heel. It doesn't help when you know that none of them are actually going to hold any titles in the next year. The world title picture is clearly Moxley, MJF, and soon to be Omega/Page while the tag division will be dominated for the rest of the year by the Bucks/FTR. And of course there's the TV title which Cody will hold as long as he wants to and lose it to someone he thinks should get a rub. I'm bored of Moxley. It's just Dean Ambrose acting like Stone cold whiles wearing camo jeans. Archer should have won the TNT title, no need for Rhodes to win it. They could have built him up as the underdog who's always this close but never quite reaches it for the belt. Until one day when he wins, imagine the pop if there fans there when he wins the big one. |
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Post by toki on Aug 5, 2020 16:28:08 GMT -5
imagine being constantly compared to wcw, then bringing in eric bischoff, lol. i don't mind him and all, but he really serves no purpose in aew imo. that being said, i'm sure the segment will be just fine if that's who the moderator is. maybe a little cringey at times bc of jericho being too over the top, maybe it'll be a surprisingly fun segment, but there's always at least one thing that slightly puts me off me during the show and if that's it then so be it. there's more than enough good sh*t lined up to outweigh the bad. tonight's card is absolutely stacked, and i expect to have another great night with you guys.
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:29:27 GMT -5
It didn't help when he started singing Jericho's song, urgh it's more like the inner circle jerk right now. Than this group of nasty individuals in the beginning. You hit the nail on the head. This group needs a soft reset in order to be a credible threat. P&P hasn't had a big win in forever, Hager loses every big match he's in, & Sammy is a goober. I have ZERO interest in THIS version of IC being in a Blood and Guts match. Imma chill, I'm kinda making the same point. lol What i would like is to see Hager take over and kick out Jericho. They all turn on him. Relegate Jericho to commentary for a while, then bring him back for a big match with someone, a redemption angle of some sort. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 16:35:15 GMT -5
You hit the nail on the head. This group needs a soft reset in order to be a credible threat. P&P hasn't had a big win in forever, Hager loses every big match he's in, & Sammy is a goober. I have ZERO interest in THIS version of IC being in a Blood and Guts match. Imma chill, I'm kinda making the same point. lol What i would like is to see Hager take over and kick out Jericho. They all turn on him. Relegate Jericho to commentary for a while, then bring him back for a big match with someone, a redemption angle of some sort out of the company. I agree.  |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2020 16:38:26 GMT -5
imagine being constantly compared to wcw, then bringing in eric bischoff, lol. i don't mind him and all, but he really serves no purpose in aew imo. that being said, i'm sure the segment will be just fine if that's who the moderator is. maybe a little cringey at times bc of jericho being too over the top, maybe it'll be a surprisingly fun segment, but there's always at least one thing that slightly puts me off me during the show and if that's it then so be it. there's more than enough good sh*t lined up to outweigh the bad. tonight's card is absolutely stacked, and i expect to have another great night with you guys. There's a lot to look forward too. With only 1 match announced for All Out, I'm really excited for the other matches to start taking a more tangible shape. I get so geeked up for Wednesday nights! Reminds me of when I first got into wrestling and wanted to see what would happen. I like being excited about it instead of just tuning in because that's just what I do on Wednesdays. Not a chore at all! |
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Post by Tomoblivion on Aug 5, 2020 16:38:43 GMT -5
What i would like is to see Hager take over and kick out Jericho. They all turn on him. Relegate Jericho to commentary for a while, then bring him back for a big match with someone, a redemption angle of some sort out of the company. I agree. Didn't AEW only sign him because cain velasquez went to WWE instead. I'm not fussed on him, i found it funny that a lot of people online suddenly rated him when he joined. The guy is a boring as a toilet full of shit! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 17:00:28 GMT -5
^^ I think they were also looking at having Anthony Ogogo be the guy, but Jericho wanted someone taller and suggested Hager himself. Honestly I haven't hated Jake here, and given my thoughts on him as an actual human, and of Jack Swagger in general, I can't believe I'm even saying that.
I would really love to see the Inner Circle turn on Jericho as well. Sammy is set for a babyface turn asap, especially given he and Marko on his vlogs.
LAX paired with Eddie Kingston is freaking lightning in a bottle that can dominate a tag division.
As to Butcher & Blade, I disagree. I think if anything now that Allie is split from them for the time being (I think on Dark we saw the first hint that Allie is getting ready to finish the angle soon and we can actually learn why she's been cozying up to QT) they have kind of become more of a threat. I'd have to go check that amazing pinned thread with all the results, but I think they've been winning more since then. They beat Private Party on dark last night, a team that just had a tag title shot. They won their 8 man tag with the Lucha Bros against Bucks/FTR. I really don't want them to just be another team either, but personally i've kinda felt like they've been getting the rub lately. I don't love the blonde on Blade lol, but beyond that I kinda dig the look otherwise. Butchers outfits feel a little more old-timey gangster to me.
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