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Post by pfrchaos on Aug 20, 2020 14:58:13 GMT -5
So, this year has been different for obvious reasons, I don't even need to say it, haha. One thing I always looked forward to though, was the summer roster reveal for the latest WWE game made by Yuke's and that's obviously not happening this year. It's a shame though, since the very first 3D wrestling game was in fact, also made by Yuke's: Toukon Retsuden
That's a video of my favorite review of the game, sucks how this came out like 25 years ago and this is the first year that a major title won't be released. So, I'm going to be bringing up some of the various games that were released after it, mentioning which games- that were released a certain year which had the best and worst rosters, going from 1996-2008.
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Post by pfrchaos on Aug 21, 2020 12:30:18 GMT -5
Best Roster of 1996: Virtual Pro WrestlingBelieve it or not, this is actually the very first AKI wrestling game and would later be "updated" and released in NA as WCW vs the World. It honesty isn't that fun to play unlike later AKI games but I think it's cool how right off the bat, here's 60 of the best wrestlers ever in a video game. Fun fact: WCW vs the World featured Luger, Malenko, and Regal but they were just reskinned Japanese guys. Jeff Jarrett was also an unlockable character but let's not talk about that. Worst Roster of 1996: Shin Nippon Pro Wrestling: Toukon Retsuden 2This game honestly doesn't even have a bad roster, it's just that it's licensed by NJPW and there no was no other competition.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 4, 2020 11:39:04 GMT -5
Best Roster of 1997: Virtual Pro Wrestling 64Here it is, the first AKI game to have an outdated version of the gameplay we all know and love. VPW 64 is basically just the Japanese equivalent of WCW vs nWo: World Tour and is full of so much more content that's not in the NA release. Here's what exclusive to World Tour, nWo Sting, Glacier, and Wrath, that's it. VPW 64 has AJPW, NJPW, Rings/Pancrase fighters, and a lot more legends. It even has some WWF guys like Vader and LOD. On top of that, it had the costume change feature that wasn't included until WCW/nWo Revenge, which was necessary since all of AJPW and NJPW were intentionally given the wrong outfits by default due to copyright concerns. I think this might be the best roster ever in an AKI game, it's just a shame that's so dated compared to later releases. Worst Roster of 1997: All Japan Pro Wrestling Featuring VirtuaInstead of showing the box art, I'll just post the player select screen and yup that's it. Baba, the Four Pillars, Akiyama, 4 gaijins, and 2 guys from Virtua Fighter hence the title of the game, apparently Hiroshi Hase is unlockable. It's just an arcade game that was ported to the Sega Saturn, never played it but it's supposed to be like Virtua Fighter...in a wresting ring, I guess? Graphics do look pretty good for the time period though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 13:08:41 GMT -5
All Japan featuring Virtua is basically the beginning of the Giant Gram series. It doesn't play anything like Virtua Fighter.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 4, 2020 15:39:23 GMT -5
All Japan featuring Virtua is basically the beginning of the Giant Gram series. It doesn't play anything like Virtua Fighter. Well, what is the gameplay like? I almost got Giant Gram 2000 before but I went with Fire Pro D instead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 16:57:06 GMT -5
All Japan featuring Virtua is basically the beginning of the Giant Gram series. It doesn't play anything like Virtua Fighter. Well, what is the gameplay like? I almost got Giant Gram 2000 before but I went with Fire Pro D instead. If you compare it to the Toukon Retsuden games, it's a little faster but I think the gameplay is more realistic. Toukon had a lot of issues that plagued the games into the SD series with cheap AI and sometimes the AI not staying down long enough after big moves. The heart of VF is there because it probably shares an engine but it's not a fighting game reliant on juggling combos or whatever. It's a wrestling game. There's a grapple button, you can do combos like doing A -> B -> C to string together strike sequences. Some of the guys have a thing where move inputs change dependent on damage, like Kawada goes from a brainbuster early in the match to where it's a powerbomb later on in the match. It's a surprisingly deep game for an arcade game. This person isn't great at the game but this should give you a good idea. Giant Gram 2K is the best version of this gameplay, though. Probably the most complex plus the best roster, graphics, sound design, etc.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 6, 2020 15:27:34 GMT -5
Best Roster of 1998: WCW/nWo RevengeAKI continued to release excellent wrestling games, and WCW/nWo Revenge is absolutely the best WCW game ever due to the awesome roster, fun gameplay, and so many good animations of moves and taunts so it really felt like each wrestler was unique. Everyone knows that Ric Flair was cut because he got fired but did you know that there were supposed to be more fake wrestlers? Yup, only 12 made the final roster but they planned on originally including over 18 more. I just noticed this but there's an updated version of the ad where the number is changed to 70 so that's what they were aiming for near the end of development. Worst Roster of 1998: Shin Nihon Pro Wrestling Toukon Road : Brave SpiritsI thought for sure I would be putting WWF Warzone here until I found out that this game exists, it's really bad considering that Toukon Retsuden 2 had 30 people and this just has everyone on the cover + Super Strong Machine, and VPW 64 has a LARGER NJPW roster and better gameplay despite not having the NJPW license. Shame on you Yuke's, shame.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 7, 2020 12:15:34 GMT -5
Best Roster of 1999: WWF WrestleMania 2000This was tough, on paper, WCW Mayhem has a better selection of wrestlers but since this was EA's first WCW game, it's missing the charm that Revenge had. Now that AKI got the WWF license, they did a really good job considering how little time they were given to work on the game. Not a whole lot of people had unique moves but they really made some midcarders like Road Dogg, X-Pac, D'Lo Brown, Al Snow, and most main eventers feel different, unlike WCW Mayhem were the only special moves were finishers and even then, many people on the roster were missing those. On top of that, everyone had entrance gear, and the CAW mode was good but still missing various moves from previous games. Still, I think it's really cool how I could still add people from old AKI games (or VPW 2), especially with the help of imported textures. Worst Roster of 1999: Giant Gram: All Japan Pro Wrestling 2So, this is the sequel to All Japan Pro Wrestling Featuring Virtua and the roster isn't much different, everyone returned but they only added three new characters. Vader, Jim Steele as Wolf Hawkfield, and Kage-Maru from Virtua Fighter were the only new additions, there's really no point in playing this game since Giant Gram 2000 exists unless you really wanted to beat up real wrestlers with fighting game characters.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 8, 2020 13:07:41 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2000: Virtual Pro Wrestling 2VPW 2 absolutely would have been the best game of 1999 but since it was released in January 2000, it beats out WWF No Mercy, another great AKI game. It has over a hundred wrestlers and fighters, a MMA mode, and finally, a Japanese AKI game got the create a wrestler feature. It's so good, I can't really find that many faults with the game, it's biggest issue is that they only got the AJPW license so you have edit the appearance of everyone else in the game...except Mike Awesome. Fun fact: Awesome was licensed to be in the game, they put him in the FMW stable but his appearance is already set! So, technically, Awesome has to be the only wrestler who appeared in three different games, licensed by three different promotions in the same year. He was also in ECW Hardcore Revolution and WCW Backstage Assault but those games suck so whatever. Worst Roster of 2000: WWF Royal RumbleSo, Yuke's made an arcade game based on a match type which features 30 wrestlers but only included 20+ playable characters. I'm just glad Giant Gram 2000 had a great roster, Bobo Brazil is included as legend!
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 11, 2020 12:57:11 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2001: Legends of WrestlingThis is the year that everything changed, WCW and ECW are dead now, and WWF had a huge storyline that never made it into video games. So, because there wasn't an AKI game released, somehow an Acclaim game has the best roster for a game that's not bad. I actually enjoyed LOW 2, but this game still had a pretty good roster, only one that had RVD! Worst Roster of 2001: WWF Just Bring It!This game sucks, I like how they added several people that joined WWF after ECW closed but in order to use them you had to basically sacrifice your whole memory card. Avoid at all costs.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 15, 2020 13:21:29 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2002: King of Colosseum (Red): Shin Nippon x Zen Nippon x PancraseAfter Spike released Fire Pro D, they started working a 3D wrestling title which actually has almost a hundred fully licensed characters from AJPW/NJPW! I've never played this version, just the sequel, wish there was translation patch or something because it's pretty complicated, I do love the power ball system, where it's possible to immediately hit a finisher at the start of a match but why would anyone want to do that? You know what would be cool, if they followed this up with a NOAH/Zero-1 game... Worst Roster of 2002: WWE Road to WrestleMania X8I guess this is technically a 3D game since the character models are digitized sprites, which actually look pretty good for the most part. Unfortunately, this being a GBA game means that the roster is tiny, only 15 playable characters, no Austin, Dudley Boyz and Angle are outdated, but somehow they got red and yellow Hogan in.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 18, 2020 14:46:34 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2003: King of Colosseum (Green): NOAH x Zero-1Remember how Legends of WrestleMania let you import guys from SVR 2009? Well, after releasing KOC Red, Spike followed it up with KOC Green and you could combine both games! Samoa Joe is in this one! Worst Roster of 2003: Backyard Wrestling: Don't Try This at HomeThis is a wrestling video game, here's some of the playable characters Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope from ICP Mad Man Pondo M-Dogg 20 AKA Son of Havoc AKA Matt Cross Sabu Tylene Buck AKA Major Gunns
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 20, 2020 11:54:10 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2004: King of Colosseum IIUnlike the previous games, KOC II was released on one disc so no need to buy two games to have an insane roster. Probably my favorite feature is the edit mode, you get 100 slots and the game included tons of preset wrestlers that were unlicensed like Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Ric Flair, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, and the Steiner Brothers among others. So, basically it would take a dozen years later for WWE games to have a roster as large as this one. Worst Roster of 2004: Backyard Wrestling 2: There Goes the NeighborhoodIt's the sequel, now includes Sandman, Vampiro, New Jack, Nick Mondo, Zandig, Ruckus, Sonjay Dutt, Vic Grimes, and Andrew W.K.?!
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 23, 2020 15:31:12 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2005: WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2006We're at the point where almost every wrestling game available is from WWE but there was also the 360 version of Wrestle Kingdom, which is basically just 40 Japanese wrestlers with DOR gameplay, PS2 version had Brock and Giant Bernard (AKA Albert) so that was neat. Anyways, SVR 2006 is one of the best WWE games ever, roster is a massive improvement over SVR which was missing tons of people and of course, this game had the awesome GM mode. Fun fact: I enjoyed SVR 2006 so much that I never bothered getting SVR 2007 when it was released even though I had 360 at the time. Worst Roster of 2005: WWE AftershockThis game is really bad, 12 playable characters, that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 8:06:00 GMT -5
All Japan featuring Virtua is basically the beginning of the Giant Gram series. It doesn't play anything like Virtua Fighter. Well, what is the gameplay like? I almost got Giant Gram 2000 before but I went with Fire Pro D instead. GG2K is really cool, different than most games. It plays like a simplified fighting game. It's like a wresting game with simple inputs for grapples, strikes, etc but also like a fighting game where you have to hit specific moves with like tapping multiple directions plus button input. Technically the input scheme is similar to the Attitdue games actually. Best part about it is the combos and options on the moves. Tapping the button to do a German suplex makes it a release while holding it down makes it a bridging German. You can can counter a back grapple with a modified ace crusher and can combo that into a roll up or kick to the opponents head behind you. Worst thing about is that with an opponent equally skilled or the AI on the hardest difficulty it becomes such a reversal fest that the gameplay just becomes boring and drawn out.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 28, 2020 10:58:22 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2006: Wrestle Kingdom and SVR 2007It's a tie! These were the only two wrestling games available, both made by Yuke's, both featured Jamal/Umaga. SVR 2007 had more playable characters but most of the new additions didn't have unique moves while everyone in WK did.
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Post by pfrchaos on Sept 29, 2020 12:48:13 GMT -5
Best Roster of 2007: Wrestle Kingdom 2No 360 version this time, the sequel is exclusive to PS2. Everyone from NOAH, Brock, Jamal, and Shibata are gone but now we got a ton of legends like Vader, the Funks, and Hayabusa! Lots of cool modern additions as well like Tajiri and TAKA Michinoku. So, it's very neat update, controls are easy to pick up since it's DOR gameplay, the menus are a mess though and it's hard to navigate without knowing Japanese. I also wish I didn't have to mod my PS2 in order to play it. Worst Roster of 2007: SVR 2008Oh no, it's this game! You know who did you know what which affected development so time was spent on removing him from the game instead of adding more content. I'm fairly certain he was going to have a big role in the season mode which is why none of the ECW guys are selectable. Roster is missing tons of people, and for whatever reason, PSP has exclusive legends even though two of them were in the previous game. I hate to say it, but I own this game on 3 different consoles. ... I made a lot of bad decisions in 2007.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Oct 1, 2020 17:23:28 GMT -5
Best Roster of 1998: WCW/nWo RevengeAKI continued to release excellent wrestling games, and WCW/nWo Revenge is absolutely the best WCW game ever due to the awesome roster, fun gameplay, and so many good animations of moves and taunts so it really felt like each wrestler was unique. Everyone knows that Ric Flair was cut because he got fired but did you know that there were supposed to be more fake wrestlers? Yup, only 12 made the final roster but they planned on originally including over 18 more. I just noticed this but there's an updated version of the ad where the number is changed to 70 so that's what they were aiming for near the end of development. “Real WCW/NWO theme music” which the cartridge couldn’t handle and would probably be a copyright nightmare
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Post by hbkjason on Oct 2, 2020 0:57:36 GMT -5
Best Roster of 1998: WCW/nWo RevengeAKI continued to release excellent wrestling games, and WCW/nWo Revenge is absolutely the best WCW game ever due to the awesome roster, fun gameplay, and so many good animations of moves and taunts so it really felt like each wrestler was unique. Everyone knows that Ric Flair was cut because he got fired but did you know that there were supposed to be more fake wrestlers? Yup, only 12 made the final roster but they planned on originally including over 18 more. I just noticed this but there's an updated version of the ad where the number is changed to 70 so that's what they were aiming for near the end of development. “Real WCW/NWO theme music” which the cartridge couldn’t handle and would probably be a copyright nightmare To be fair as awsome as the AKI games are, AKI was freaking horrible at compressing audio files. This is the only area where the Acclaim N64 games were better in my opinion. Even on the N64, they managed to have good entrance themes. I feel if Revenge had real entrance music, it would have made it even better.
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