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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 31, 2020 2:22:07 GMT -5
Are we essentially getting a Joker/Harley Quinn with Bray and Alexa Bliss? Seems more like a beauty and the beast type dea. Ruby and Liv is going to end up a Joker/Quinn situation. |
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Post by bige on Aug 31, 2020 3:48:07 GMT -5
If he did the job to Otis, then I'd be impressed. It's more likely Otis is challenged by Heyman to prove himself by putting the case on the line against a mystery opponent, which happens to be Brock. Lesnar does the deal, wins the briefcase, Heyman turns on Reigns, and we get Dat Dude facing Brock and Paul at Mania. Again. Barring that, is it safe to pencil in the loss for Daniel Bryan as the Universal challenger at Mania? Or is he fed to Da Big Dawg sooner than that, so any hope of Bryan winning the strap is dead and buried by then? God I hope not |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 31, 2020 5:16:44 GMT -5
If he did the job to Otis, then I'd be impressed. It's more likely Otis is challenged by Heyman to prove himself by putting the case on the line against a mystery opponent, which happens to be Brock. Lesnar does the deal, wins the briefcase, Heyman turns on Reigns, and we get Dat Dude facing Brock and Paul at Mania. Again. Barring that, is it safe to pencil in the loss for Daniel Bryan as the Universal challenger at Mania? Or is he fed to Da Big Dawg sooner than that, so any hope of Bryan winning the strap is dead and buried by then? 😂 |
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Aug 31, 2020 5:22:28 GMT -5
If he did the job to Otis, then I'd be impressed. It's more likely Otis is challenged by Heyman to prove himself by putting the case on the line against a mystery opponent, which happens to be Brock. Lesnar does the deal, wins the briefcase, Heyman turns on Reigns, and we get Dat Dude facing Brock and Paul at Mania. Again. Barring that, is it safe to pencil in the loss for Daniel Bryan as the Universal challenger at Mania? Or is he fed to Da Big Dawg sooner than that, so any hope of Bryan winning the strap is dead and buried by then? I don’t like this idea one bit |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 7:30:18 GMT -5
The Women’s tag was okay till that fantastic finish. Loved it. Remember when people said Lee was ruined already? Yet again they were wrong. Big win. That tag match was so weird for me. I'm a really big fan of 3 of them, and then there's Nia. Finish was great, and hopefully this can be a good launching point for Shayna, she looked great tonight. Can tell how much effort Sasha/Bayley put into learning how to be a good heel tag team. Totally see the influence FTR had on them. Oh well, the break-up payoff will hopefully be worth it in the end, and they got a decent run as a tag team this time to put that to use. I seem to be in the minority but I don't mind the tight shirt at all. Black hides depth, it keeps his power belly a little smaller compared to his arms, so it makes him look like the brick ****house that he is. Outside of the bloody figure already being outdated of course I really don't see what the big hullabaloo was over the changes. They made him look like a million bucks tonight too. Mr. Keith Lee gonna be just fine. |
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Post by JL Styles on Aug 31, 2020 7:57:28 GMT -5
I enjoyed that show.
Ruby-Liv winning was good, and the slow reunion seems to be complete, including matching gear. Perhaps a tag title run is coming soon.
Lashley-Apollo was good. Lashley has been really good since he joined MVP. I’m guessing we will get at least one more title match with these two, which is fine.
Riddle-Corbin was fine. Happy Riddle won, wish that he was done with Corbin.
Big E-Sheamus was good. E’s singles run rolls on.
The women’s tag title match was ok, but I agree about that finish. So good, so different. The look on Sasha’s face afterwards told the story. Great stuff there.
Lee-Orton was great. Lee crushed him with that Spirit Bomb. I guess Keith’s career wasn’t over after last Monday after all.
The Mysterio’s tag match was really good. Not sure why we need Rey vs Seth again, but it’s happening.
I liked the main event. Heel Reigns is going to be so interesting. We will see what they do with it.
Really solid show, considering the lack of time between PPV’s.
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Post by Zincdust on Aug 31, 2020 9:49:28 GMT -5
I wish that the Fiend would have ripped Reigns' new teeth out of his head with that claw. Same old crap. Reigns is allowed to enter the match after the other two had been beating each other for 15+ minutes, and wins. Ugh. You have been thoroughly WORKED. Nonsense. I honestly do not like Roman's new teeth, no matter how badly Vince wants me to. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Aug 31, 2020 10:20:05 GMT -5
WHY THE  HAVENT THEY CHANGED KEITH LEE’S THEME YET Cause writing music usually takes time. Def Rebel ain't CFO$ they don't write 10 second songs and then loop them. And before anyone trashes them, they should know they made Rollins, Kross, IO’s, Lumis’s, Crew’s, Dominik’s and Johnny’s newest themes Just like CFO, not every theme is a banger but I feel like Lee didn’t have a super planned call up so they had to whip the song together up super quick |
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 31, 2020 10:22:37 GMT -5
WHY THE HAVENT THEY CHANGED KEITH LEE’S THEME YET We’ve been asking them to change Roman’s theme since 2014. Despite rumors id be shocked if Lee’s theme changes anytime soon. |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Aug 31, 2020 10:27:31 GMT -5
Solid show. Especially when you consider SumerSlam was last weekend Living Riott is a cool name. I liked the tag match and the direction the story took. Apollo vs Lashley was really good. Sad to see Apollo lose the title, but he had a good run. Not sure what to make of JBL and Keith Lee part. E vs Sheamus was good. Long, but good. Happy for E. Riddle vs Corbin was kinda long too. Decent match. The Women’s tag was okay till that fantastic finish. Loved it. Remember when people said Lee was ruined already? Yet again they were wrong. Big win. Tag match was good. Rollins vs Murphy seeds were planted. Glad Dom got rid of the hood. I like what they’re doing with Bliss. Main Event was meh. Glad Roman won but why not just leave it on Braun till tonight? I do think Roman is going to be awesome as a heel. I mean just because Lee beat Orton doesn’t mean chit Nakamura beat Cena his first night and look at him now 3 years later. He had the crowd behind him, a killer theme song, great gear, all of it. Yet he’s basically a lower mid carder now. Lee has bad music, no crowd, and bad gear. |
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Post by kinnikuman on Aug 31, 2020 10:40:56 GMT -5
I think WWE is kicking themselves for giving the case to Otis. He was hot for like a month (right at ppv time). Now he's nothing but a laugh (or in his case an annoying grunt 15 times a match). There are much better names that should have the MIB. Oh well. Live and learn with what social media thinks is cool in the moment, WWE.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 31, 2020 10:45:12 GMT -5
I actually watched the show. It wasn’t bad. I personally don’t see the mass appeal of Keith Lee, but I don’t watch NXT, so it’s entirely possible I’m missing something. I’ll keep an open mind for now. I don’t know what his music used to be, but I feel like they’re working on something better. In the Attitude Era, both Triple H and the Rock had terrible generic garbage for a couple of weeks before they got new music (I specifically remember H having something ghastly after he first joined the corporation). I feel like the tight shirt makes him look fatter though. He looks powerful like Jim Neidhart without it, but with the shirt it really looks like they’re trying to hide fat (not that he’s fat, he’s a hoss, but obviously not as ripped as Lesnar). I’m not at all surprised that he won.
Also, I know people are saying similar about the Fiend, but the derailment of Strowman is much worse. Strowman is a once in a lifetime attraction. He’s like an athletic Big John Studd. He should still be wowing us with feats of strength and the same unrelenting fury that he had with ‘I’m not finished with you yet!’ But if they’re not careful he’ll become the Big Strow - a giant oaf who takes bumps and is added to triple threats to take pins and act as a ‘threat’, even though it’s clear he had no chance. He seems so generic without the hair as well. It’s weird. Looking forward to the Joker/Harley/Alexa/Fiend thing just to see how it plays out.
I still hope Roman changes the music, and I’m hoping the vest is gone for good. I’m Curious to see how this plays out. If he sucks as a heel, at least he won’t be cheered.
Seth is amazing as a heel. I’m loving the Monday Night Messiah, and he still got me cheering Rey. He should never be a face again.
Did they instruct Nia to be insufferably annoying after the victory or was that her own call? It was cringeworthy.
I love the Hurt Business. Poor Apollo.
All in all a great show in my opinion, one of the most enjoyable (for me personally) in years. I haven’t liked the product in awhile, but this and SummerSlam were pretty good.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 31, 2020 11:19:36 GMT -5
I actually watched the show. It wasn’t bad. I personally don’t see the mass appeal of Keith Lee, but I don’t watch NXT, so it’s entirely possible I’m missing something. I’ll keep an open mind for now. I don’t know what his music used to be, but I feel like they’re working on something better. In the Attitude Era, both Triple H and the Rock had terrible generic garbage for a couple of weeks before they got new music (I specifically remember H having something ghastly after he first joined the corporation). I feel like the tight shirt makes him look fatter though. He looks powerful like Jim Neidhart without it, but with the shirt it really looks like they’re trying to hide fat (not that he’s fat, he’s a hoss, but obviously not as ripped as Lesnar). I’m not at all surprised that he won. Also, I know people are saying similar about the Fiend, but the derailment of Strowman is much worse. Strowman is a once in a lifetime attraction. He’s like an athletic Big John Studd. He should still be wowing us with feats of strength and the same unrelenting fury that he had with ‘I’m not finished with you yet!’ But if they’re not careful he’ll become the Big Strow - a giant oaf who takes bumps and is added to triple threats to take pins and act as a ‘threat’, even though it’s clear he had no chance. He seems so generic without the hair as well. It’s weird. Looking forward to the Joker/Harley/Alexa/Fiend thing just to see how it plays out. I still hope Roman changes the music, and I’m hoping the vest is gone for good. I’m Curious to see how this plays out. If he sucks as a heel, at least he won’t be cheered. Seth is amazing as a heel. I’m loving the Monday Night Messiah, and he still got me cheering Rey. He should never be a face again. Did they instruct Nia to be insufferably annoying after the victory or was that her own call? It was cringeworthy. I love the Hurt Business. Poor Apollo. All in all a great show in my opinion, one of the most enjoyable (for me personally) in years. I haven’t liked the product in awhile, but this and SummerSlam were pretty good. Great post and I agree with most of your thoughts. I’m in the same camp regarding Strowman and his terrible booking for years. He should be an attraction, and that’s what he was back in 2017. The problem is that until WM this year, he was booked to loose every, single big match he was in. He’d dominate some guys on Raw and Smackdown, then always come up short in big title fights. To me, his momentum and appeal was killed long ago when he failed to take the Universal Title from Brock or Roman for 3 years. That’s what turned him into the modern “Big Show” rather than the modern day “André the Giant.” They had a chance to build some of that appeal back after he won the Universal Title this year but his run always came off as lackluster due to being a replacement for Roman. Now, after taking clean pinfalls to both The Fiend and Roman within 1 week, I feel like he’ll quickly fall back down the card and do nothing of note until getting placed in a random multi-man match to take a pin fall (which you mentioned). Sadly I don’t think Braun will ever reach that potential after they’ve botched him for the past 4 years. |
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Post by Chip on Aug 31, 2020 11:31:08 GMT -5
for a random PPV event that show was fantastic from top to bottom
All the matches were solid, all the winners were "right" imo, storyline progression everywhere. Anything else is just nitpicky stuff
The sooner they give Keith Lee a banger of a theme the better though
he's not ruined by any means, but the way they massacred his presentation and gave him a shitty ACTUAL debut is still stupid.
however him going over Orton in his 2nd match the way he did gives me hope that Vince actually does care about the guy and will put him in a good spot. If he turns into the next "kevin owens" that will be perfectly fine with me
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 31, 2020 11:34:43 GMT -5
for a random PPV event that show was fantastic from top to bottom All the matches were solid, all the winners were "right" imo, storyline progression everywhere. Anything else is just nitpicky stuff The sooner they give Keith Lee a banger of a theme the better though he's not ruined by any means, but the way they massacred his presentation and gave him a crapty ACTUAL debut is still stupid. however him going over Orton in his 2nd match the way he did gives me hope that Vince actually does care about the guy and will put him in a good spot. If he turns into the next "kevin owens" that will be perfectly fine with me Lee’s attire sucks now too. I wonder if Vince doesn’t like his “look” and is making him wear a top now. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 31, 2020 11:42:40 GMT -5
44 year old Bobby Trashley just won the us title. but i am supposed to believe wants to push young talent. what a joke. Who exactly is on the tang “young talent that should be the champions” list at the moment? |
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Post by JL Styles on Aug 31, 2020 12:06:00 GMT -5
44 year old Bobby Trashley just won the us title. but i am supposed to believe wants to push young talent. what a joke. Who exactly is on the tang “young talent that should be the champions” list at the moment? Keith Lee is young talent on the main roster. He beat Randy Orton clean with his finisher. That's pushing young talent. The only joke here is tang. Who knows who is on his list. |
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Post by omartheterror on Aug 31, 2020 12:24:32 GMT -5
How would we feel about heel Roman vs The Great One for the honor of the family at mania?
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 31, 2020 12:46:46 GMT -5
I think WWE is kicking themselves for giving the case to Otis. He was hot for like a month (right at ppv time). Now he's nothing but a laugh (or in his case an annoying grunt 15 times a match). There are much better names that should have the MIB. Oh well. Live and learn with what social media thinks is cool in the moment, WWE. I'm being totally 100 here, Otis' gimmick is that he's special needs right? |
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Post by tylerbreezee on Aug 31, 2020 13:31:18 GMT -5
I think WWE is kicking themselves for giving the case to Otis. He was hot for like a month (right at ppv time). Now he's nothing but a laugh (or in his case an annoying grunt 15 times a match). There are much better names that should have the MIB. Oh well. Live and learn with what social media thinks is cool in the moment, WWE. I'm being totally 100 here, Otis' gimmick is that he's special needs right? He is in real life, the actual person has a form of disability. I don’t remember what he exactly has, but I remember reading about it |
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