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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 15:54:47 GMT -5
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 2, 2020 16:09:59 GMT -5
I know HHH's reign of terror was unpopular but he made the WHC the most important belt in the company.
Everyone was desperate for him to lose it and when he did, it felt like a huge deal.
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Post by The Brain on Sept 2, 2020 19:20:11 GMT -5
Damn what a beautiful belt.
Only the classic 88-98 Winged Eagle is better in my book.
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 3, 2020 5:46:35 GMT -5
I know HHH's reign of terror was unpopular but he made the WHC the most important belt in the company. Everyone was desperate for him to lose it and when he did, it felt like a huge deal.
But yeah when Goldberg beat him? it felt massive in fairness. it would have been better @ Summerslam 2003 but we now know Bill didnt win it there in his hometown because he didn't want to do the European tour....so thats all on him....100%. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 3, 2020 13:29:23 GMT -5
I know HHH's reign of terror was unpopular but he made the WHC the most important belt in the company. Everyone was desperate for him to lose it and when he did, it felt like a huge deal. I’m hot and cold on his runs with the belt from 2002-2003. Yes, he made it seem prestigious, and beating guys like Steiner and Nash was fine. My main issue is how many potential main eventers suffered due to this. I get that HHH had to beat guys to make it important, but he seemed to beat every potential new star at the time and in humiliating fashion. RVD was over like crazy in 2001-2002 and original plans called for him to win a tournament to become the first WHC. This obviously never happened, and after loosing to HHH at Unforgiven 2002, RVD slid down the card and really did a lot of nothing from 2003-2004 outside of an uneventful tag run with Kane. I blame the major loss of momentum on his feud with HHH. Kane returned in the fall of 2002 to much fanfare. His character was evolving to show more emotion, and while crap like the Spinarooni didn’t help him, he was having a strong push with an IC Title win and Tag Title win with the Hurricane. Then the Katie Vick crap happened and like RVD, did a lot of nothing until the following summer where he once again lost to HHH and lost his iconic mask. To me the character was never the same after that. Booker T. This has been debated to death, and based on the story they told, Booker should have 100% gone over. Had they not introduced racism into this story, sure, HHH could win. But the story they told and the loss to HHH left him in mid-card hell for the next 3+ years. Goldberg won the title. Yeah he got the big win over HHH. But it was too little, too late IMO. He should have won it a month earlier in the EC. HHH was hurt and the live fans were going crazy for Goldberg to win. Some stories claim Goldberg didn’t want to do a over seas tour which is why they delayed his Title win, but the loss in the chamber just killed his momentum and his Title win a month later felt flat. HBK never needed to win the first EC. Sure, it made for a cool story for him, but he didn’t need the title. A win in the EC would have meant so much more for Jericho, Kane, RVD, or Booker T. HBK eliminates HHH, HHH takes him out, they continue their feud for a month without hogging the WHC, and HHH can take it back once he’s done with HBK. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 3, 2020 13:49:35 GMT -5
Looking back at that reign, I am okay with it.
If it wasn't for Triple H being booked like that and making Raw seem so bad, then Smackdown wouldn't have had such fanfare and awesomeness that it had.
I didn't care what they were doing there on Raw, as long as I got Lesnar, Angle, Eddie, Chavo, Benoit, Edge, Mysterio, Kidman, Matt Hardy, and them on Smackdown each week, I was set!
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 3, 2020 15:18:22 GMT -5
I think we'd all look at his reign differently if he had dropped the title at WM19 to Booker T. It being what it is though, that really changes that run for me. That span between 19 and 20 with him on top are largely meaningless to me. I'm interested in going back one day to re-watch the Ruthless Aggression Era again. Haven't done so since it happened.
I remember during that run that the finishes for RVD and Kane made me care less and less about Raw, and that was when I was a die hard viewer. Triple H getting lame wins ultimately drove me away into the always loving arms of SmackDown permanently. lol
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 3, 2020 17:28:01 GMT -5
I think we'd all look at his reign differently if he had dropped the title at WM19 to Booker T. It being what it is though, that really changes that run for me. That span between 19 and 20 with him on top are largely meaningless to me. I'm interested in going back one day to re-watch the Ruthless Aggression Era again. Haven't done so since it happened. I remember during that run that the finishes for RVD and Kane made me care less and less about Raw, and that was when I was a die hard viewer. Triple H getting lame wins ultimately drove me away into the always loving arms of SmackDown permanently. lol I did a rewatch of Smackdown from Summerslam 2002 to WM20 last year and it was still as good as I remembered it. Great matches, stories, and characters. Sure, it had its crap like every era does, but the good far outweighed it. Once I finished my Smackdown run I tried doing the same time period for Raw but gave up around WM19. Every show is a slow slog. The in ring action isn’t anywhere near as consistent as it was on Smackdown, and outside of HHH nothing really mattered except for Stone Cold’s final run as a performer and then as the GM. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 3, 2020 17:34:03 GMT -5
I think we'd all look at his reign differently if he had dropped the title at WM19 to Booker T. It being what it is though, that really changes that run for me. That span between 19 and 20 with him on top are largely meaningless to me. I'm interested in going back one day to re-watch the Ruthless Aggression Era again. Haven't done so since it happened. I remember during that run that the finishes for RVD and Kane made me care less and less about Raw, and that was when I was a die hard viewer. Triple H getting lame wins ultimately drove me away into the always loving arms of SmackDown permanently. lol I did a rewatch of Smackdown from Summerslam 2002 to WM20 last year and it was still as good as I remembered it. Great matches, stories, and characters. Sure, it had its crap like every era does, but the good far outweighed it. Once I finished my Smackdown run I tried doing the same time period for Raw but gave up around WM19. Every show is a slow slog. The in ring action isn’t anywhere near as consistent as it was on Smackdown, and outside of HHH nothing really mattered except for Stone Cold’s final run as a performer and then as the GM. That's my golden era for WWE (that's when I started watching). I'm hesitant to go back because I had so much fun & would hate to tarnish that. |
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