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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2020 10:48:31 GMT -5
No thanks, trading title wins like that cheapens the title. Title wins should mean something. Champions in AEW hold titles for months and months at it is. No one would have seen it coming. While I don't think Dustin should have won, I do agree/think that now that they've set the precedent, having a title change quickly once would be unexpected and totally fine as long as it doesn't become a habit. |
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 11, 2020 11:29:19 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that you want a balance of both long and short(er) title reigns. The idea that everyone one has to hold their belt for 100+ days is silly to me and not even that logical. Because they won a title they're suddenly they're incapable of losing until x amount of time?
It's quality over quantity and how memorable the actual win/reign was. I'll use ROH as an example. I think very fondly of Samoa Joe's and CM Punk's title runs. One was two years. The other was less than two months.
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Post by stc13 on Sept 11, 2020 11:37:03 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that you want a balance of both long and short(er) title reigns. The idea that everyone one has to hold their belt for 100+ days is silly to me and not even that logical. Because they won a title they're suddenly they're incapable of losing until x amount of time? It's quality over quantity and how memorable the actual win/reign was. I'll use ROH as an example. I think very fondly of Samoa Joe's and CM Punk's title runs. One was two years. The other was less than two months. Generally speaking, I totally agree. But I don't have an issue with longer runs up to this point because a) the pandemic really messed with booking plans, and it made sense to hold off when the thinking was that there would be large crowds again this year b) they're a brand new company and the belts need to establish some prestige. I would like to see them do more to build the importance of the titles. But I do think this is one area where they are presenting themselves differently from other companies, and it's a welcomed development for me. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 11, 2020 11:59:29 GMT -5
No thanks, trading title wins like that cheapens the title. Title wins should mean something. Champions in AEW hold titles for months and months at it is. No one would have seen it coming. No one would see it coming, because it wouldn’t make sense. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 11, 2020 12:00:59 GMT -5
Champions in AEW hold titles for months and months at it is. No one would have seen it coming. While I don't think Dustin should have won, I do agree/think that now that they've set the precedent, having a title change quickly once would be unexpected and totally fine as long as it doesn't become a habit. It has to be the right person and the right story. Dustin winning then dropping back to Brodie would be the wrong move. He’s not the right guy to do that. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 11, 2020 14:38:44 GMT -5
While I don't think Dustin should have won, I do agree/think that now that they've set the precedent, having a title change quickly once would be unexpected and totally fine as long as it doesn't become a habit. It has to be the right person and the right story. Dustin winning then dropping back to Brodie would be the wrong move. He’s not the right guy to do that. Would have made for good TV. Imagine the reaction to Dustin winning. Could have easily protected Brodie and flipped the title back and done another good number for the rematch. Especially if it coincided with Cody's return. Could have even done a throw in the towel gimmick, with Dustin getting bloodied up. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 11, 2020 14:42:41 GMT -5
It has to be the right person and the right story. Dustin winning then dropping back to Brodie would be the wrong move. He’s not the right guy to do that. Would have made for good TV. Imagine the reaction to Dustin winning. Could have easily protected Brodie and flipped the title back and done another good number for the rematch. Especially if it coincided with Cody's return. Could have even done a throw in the towel gimmick, with Dustin getting bloodied up. Sorry dude. Having Brodie lose in his 1st defense to Goldust isn’t “protecting” him. No reason to flip the title in this situation. |
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Post by LK3 on Sept 11, 2020 17:53:49 GMT -5
I can imagine the reaction, and it wouldn’t be a good one.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 11, 2020 17:58:27 GMT -5
Would have made for good TV. Imagine the reaction to Dustin winning. Could have easily protected Brodie and flipped the title back and done another good number for the rematch. Especially if it coincided with Cody's return. Could have even done a throw in the towel gimmick, with Dustin getting bloodied up. Sorry dude. Having Brodie lose in his 1st defense to Goldust isn’t “protecting” him. No reason to flip the title in this situation. The fact that AEW don't ever have someone lose their first title defence means you could play that card here. Not just because they have never done it but because you could believe Dustin could grab a fluke win or get help. And given the company's track record, could no doubt propel Brodie even further by the time they put the title back on him. Thinking from a TV perspective here and building that story week to week with the obvious endgame still being Cody getting his rematch. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 11, 2020 18:20:05 GMT -5
Sorry dude. Having Brodie lose in his 1st defense to Goldust isn’t “protecting” him. No reason to flip the title in this situation. The fact that AEW don't ever have someone lose their first title defence means you could play that card here. Not just because they have never done it but because you could believe Dustin could grab a fluke win or get help. And given the company's track record, could no doubt propel Brodie even further by the time they put the title back on him. Thinking from a TV perspective here and building that story week to week with the obvious endgame still being Cody getting his rematch. I’m not gonna say you’re right on this. AEW hasn’t done a short reign YET. They’ve only been around for a year. There will be a time and place, but not here. That’s not the story with Brodie. If you’re interested in title changes that mean nothing, check out another promotion |
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Post by K5 on Sept 11, 2020 19:31:33 GMT -5
Sorry dude. Having Brodie lose in his 1st defense to Goldust isn’t “protecting” him. No reason to flip the title in this situation. The fact that AEW don't ever have someone lose their first title defence means you could play that card here. Not just because they have never done it but because you could believe Dustin could grab a fluke win or get help. And given the company's track record, could no doubt propel Brodie even further by the time they put the title back on him. Thinking from a TV perspective here and building that story week to week with the obvious endgame still being Cody getting his rematch. that's cool that you have that as your opinion and all, but I don't think that would've done Lee any damn good. or Cody for just putting Lee over convincingly. so no thanks. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Sept 12, 2020 5:15:51 GMT -5
The fact that AEW don't ever have someone lose their first title defence means you could play that card here. Not just because they have never done it but because you could believe Dustin could grab a fluke win or get help. And given the company's track record, could no doubt propel Brodie even further by the time they put the title back on him. Thinking from a TV perspective here and building that story week to week with the obvious endgame still being Cody getting his rematch. I’m not gonna say you’re right on this. AEW hasn’t done a short reign YET. They’ve only been around for a year. There will be a time and place, but not here. That’s not the story with Brodie. If you’re interested in title changes that mean nothing, check out another promotion It only means nothing if the storytelling is poor. Which given AEW's track record, I doubt that would be the case. |
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