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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 9, 2020 9:13:25 GMT -5
I was surprised he didn’t win it in 1992. 1996 I wasn’t surprised because I knew that was going to be the year of HBK. TBH i felt Warrior wa sout of place in 92 I'm sure that feeling was that he didn't look like the same Warrior and the rumours it wasn't him lol But Warrior as a character was more out of place in 1996 versus 1992. To make it work you would need to adjust just as the Undertaker has done for thirty years. |
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Post by rateddal on Dec 9, 2020 9:32:50 GMT -5
If everything had went to plan? I think Warrior wold have been fed to Vader. But as we seen? Summer 1996 went out the window. As far as Warrior being champ goes? That was never going to happen....he was trouble from the get go when he returned in 1996. He changed the match at WM12 without telling anyone FFS...He was done as soon as he returned. I still find it strange that people think Warrior would (or should) have had a 10-15 minute competitive match with an early 1996 Hunter Hearst Helmsley. His Wrestlemania 12 match was an absolutely perfect return given everything he'd been in his first run IMO. After that is when it fell apart. 100% correct. HHH wasn't even established at all to be giving Warrior trouble in his first match back. The fact he got to hit his finisher was enough of a rub imo even if he did no sell it. |
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 9, 2020 10:01:30 GMT -5
If everything had went to plan? I think Warrior wold have been fed to Vader. But as we seen? Summer 1996 went out the window. As far as Warrior being champ goes? That was never going to happen....he was trouble from the get go when he returned in 1996. He changed the match at WM12 without telling anyone FFS...He was done as soon as he returned. I still find it strange that people think Warrior would (or should) have had a 10-15 minute competitive match with an early 1996 Hunter Hearst Helmsley. His Wrestlemania 12 match was an absolutely perfect return given everything he'd been in his first run IMO. After that is when it fell apart. Lots of people said he changed it last minute &. Said no this is what we are doing. He wasn't scheduled for 15 minutes but it's meant to have been 3 or 4. HHH was meant to do some cowardly heel sh#t with Sable during the match too. |
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 9, 2020 10:02:46 GMT -5
I still find it strange that people think Warrior would (or should) have had a 10-15 minute competitive match with an early 1996 Hunter Hearst Helmsley. His Wrestlemania 12 match was an absolutely perfect return given everything he'd been in his first run IMO. After that is when it fell apart. 100% correct. HHH wasn't even established at all to be giving Warrior trouble in his first match back. The fact he got to hit his finisher was enough of a rub imo even if he did no sell it. Nobody said that. But there was a script & he changed it on the fly to what we got. |
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Post by Warriah' on Dec 9, 2020 10:25:31 GMT -5
I still find it strange that people think Warrior would (or should) have had a 10-15 minute competitive match with an early 1996 Hunter Hearst Helmsley. His Wrestlemania 12 match was an absolutely perfect return given everything he'd been in his first run IMO. After that is when it fell apart. Lots of people said he changed it last minute &. Said no this is what we are doing. He wasn't scheduled for 15 minutes but it's meant to have been 3 or 4. HHH was meant to do some cowardly heel sh#t with Sable during the match too. My understanding is Warrior laid the match down when he came back with HHH, Hunter took issue with it and went to go get Brisco involved which made Warrior livid so he refused to make any compromises. Petty, sure. But I think the match couldn't have gone much different. On a somewhat similar topic, I wish things had been different between WWE/Warrior for Warrior's retirement match. I think a rematch between he and HHH in 2008 could have been very interesting. |
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Post by Warriah' on Dec 9, 2020 10:30:03 GMT -5
TBH i felt Warrior wa sout of place in 92 I'm sure that feeling was that he didn't look like the same Warrior and the rumours it wasn't him lol But Warrior as a character was more out of place in 1996 versus 1992. To make it work you would need to adjust just as the Undertaker has done for thirty years. I think people overlook that Warrior had tweaked his character in 1996 quite a bit. He certainly wasn't the late 80s Warrior. I think you can see his stuff with Goldust and see how he'd have fit into the attitude era |
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Post by warriorlynx on Dec 9, 2020 14:14:01 GMT -5
I'm sure that feeling was that he didn't look like the same Warrior and the rumours it wasn't him lol But Warrior as a character was more out of place in 1996 versus 1992. To make it work you would need to adjust just as the Undertaker has done for thirty years. I think people overlook that Warrior had tweaked his character in 1996 quite a bit. He certainly wasn't the late 80s Warrior. I think you can see his stuff with Goldust and see how he'd have fit into the attitude era There are few exceptions I'm sure but there were situations like him wearing a hat to sell merch when it got in the ring to confront Lawler that just didn't work lol. If Warrior turns heel that might've been something. |
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 10, 2020 10:39:25 GMT -5
Lots of people said he changed it last minute &. Said no this is what we are doing. He wasn't scheduled for 15 minutes but it's meant to have been 3 or 4. HHH was meant to do some cowardly heel sh#t with Sable during the match too. My understanding is Warrior laid the match down when he came back with HHH, Hunter took issue with it and went to go get Brisco involved which made Warrior livid so he refused to make any compromises. Petty, sure. But I think the match couldn't have gone much different. On a somewhat similar topic, I wish things had been different between WWE/Warrior for Warrior's retirement match. I think a rematch between he and HHH in 2008 could have been very interesting. Heard it differently on Prichard's podcast. He says Warrior changed it last minute & HHH just went along with it because it was literally too late to do anything about it. The match was still to be a one sided squash but there was to be some stuff in there to heel up HHH and sable & further the thing with Mero which was about to happen. I dont think HHH was scheduled to get any more offence than he got or anything like that... |
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Post by Warriah' on Dec 10, 2020 12:27:44 GMT -5
My understanding is Warrior laid the match down when he came back with HHH, Hunter took issue with it and went to go get Brisco involved which made Warrior livid so he refused to make any compromises. Petty, sure. But I think the match couldn't have gone much different. On a somewhat similar topic, I wish things had been different between WWE/Warrior for Warrior's retirement match. I think a rematch between he and HHH in 2008 could have been very interesting. Heard it differently on Prichard's podcast. He says Warrior changed it last minute & HHH just went along with it because it was literally too late to do anything about it. The match was still to be a one sided squash but there was to be some stuff in there to heel up HHH and sable & further the thing with Mero which was about to happen. I dont think HHH was scheduled to get any more offence than he got or anything like that... I love Prichard's podcast but he's been known to not be a Warrior fan lol. Warrior's side of things is at least worth listening to |
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Post by PVA on Dec 11, 2020 7:38:54 GMT -5
Warriah'I agree. People are quick to dismiss warrior was out of place or didn’t fit in 96 or 98 but he definitely did modify his look and character. Not saying it was perfect or there wasn’t room for improvements. Perhaps too many podcasts have convinced people it was the same character from the late 80s. 🤷♂️
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Post by JokerFC on Dec 11, 2020 9:20:22 GMT -5
Heard it differently on Prichard's podcast. He says Warrior changed it last minute & HHH just went along with it because it was literally too late to do anything about it. The match was still to be a one sided squash but there was to be some stuff in there to heel up HHH and sable & further the thing with Mero which was about to happen. I dont think HHH was scheduled to get any more offence than he got or anything like that... I love Prichard's podcast but he's been known to not be a Warrior fan lol. Warrior's side of things is at least worth listening to Ya I listened to Hellwig's account before man I looked into this situation myself..... Also I'm aware that Prichard isn't a fan of his(like MANY MANY others) but I also find Prichard gives him credit where its due. Its like its fine to agree with prichard,Ross etc when they say good stuff? But when they dont? they arent fans or are liars. On a side note? I am a fan of the Warriors but find when there is criticism of him brought up? you've either 1)Read too many WWE accounts/books 2)Your a complete fool who's bought into the DVD 100% 3)listened to too many podcasts/anti warrior stuff. Its a very strange development I must say. |
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 11, 2020 10:27:57 GMT -5
Hunter was the S.D. Jones of that Wrestlemania. He wasn't meant for anything more than a quick squash like S.D. He was interchangeable with any other low card heel at the time whether it be Isaac Yankem, Tatanka, 123 Kid, Bob Backlund or Kama or whoever WWF would have kept on post-Royal Rumble. Warrior's squashing of any of them wouldn't hurt in any way because they were so low on the card and unpopular.
Hunter at best was there to get Mero over as well as Warrior. Hunter can smile at Warrior, shake hands, act like he loves dealing with Warrior's wife on retrospectives but I'm sure he was (at HOF 2004 time) and still is very bitter with the WM loss.
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Post by jason88cubs on Dec 11, 2020 13:22:30 GMT -5
The HHH/Warrior thing is stupid
HHH just got out of a feud with Duke The Dumpster Droese, and he expected to have a actual match with Warrior?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 14:47:09 GMT -5
The HHH/Warrior thing is stupid HHH just got out of a feud with Duke The Dumpster Droese, and he expected to have a actual match with Warrior? it was just the beginning of his whining and having to get his way. once he & shawn became close he even got worse. he shoulda been happy he was picked to get sqaushed by warrior! warrior was 10 times the star he was at the mtime! |
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