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Post by Mclovin on Nov 18, 2020 20:33:32 GMT -5
A few days ago I asked why (in kayfabe) wrestler's weights don't change like how they do IRL. Well now we're onto the bigger question. How (once again, in kayfabe) can a wrestler's billed height change?
List of examples: The Giant was 7'4" in WCW, 7'2" in the first few years of his WWF/E run, then went down to 7'0". Sheamus was billed at 6'6" from his WWE debut until about 2011 when they changed it to 6'4". Mean Mark Callous was 6'9" but The Undertaker is 6'10 1/2" (side note: I always thought it was weird how they gave Taker the 1/2" in his billed height but nobody else ever). Randy Orton and Edge have both floated between 6'4" and 6'5" in their careers. Brock Lesnar and Goldberg have both been billed at 6'3" and 6'4" at different times. What is the kayfabe explanation of this and can y'all think of more examples of a wrestler's billed height changing? Any other topics y'all wanna suggest?
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 18, 2020 21:12:20 GMT -5
In the case of WCW heights compared to WWF heights, WWF treats(ed) WCW as it didnt exist so they didnt care.
I never understood why they would bill someone at a height that they're clearly not. I have a 6'5'' friend who is just an inch or two shorter than Kane...which means Kane and taker arent the 6'10" guys they say they are but more 6'7''....Marty Jannetty is billed at 5'11'' and he's a solid 3-4 inches shorter than me.
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Post by bababooey on Nov 19, 2020 12:09:23 GMT -5
Guys getting smaller makes perfect sense. People get smaller as they age. Especially, when wrestlers experience a great deal of spinal compression. Also, treatment of that spinal compression can make you slightly taller as you are able to elongate the spine.
In most cases though, the it’s probably just a matter of how WWE wants them to be perceived against the rest of the roster. If they want someone to seem massive, they’ll bill them taller. If they want them to be more comparable with the people their up against, the bigger guys will be billed closer to real height and smaller guys will be billed taller.
I remember years ago on one of those Legends Roundtable episodes, one of the legends said 6’0”-6’2” was the perfect height for a champion, because they didn’t look too dominant against smaller guys, but they also looked like they had a shot against big guys.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Nov 19, 2020 13:08:21 GMT -5
Angle shrunk a fair bit over the years. Makes sense due to all them injuries.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Nov 19, 2020 16:17:34 GMT -5
Gee, I can't wait for part three.  |
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Post by Mclovin on Nov 19, 2020 16:48:15 GMT -5
Angle shrunk a fair bit over the years. Makes sense due to all them injuries. So did Hogan, but honestly I'm not even counting legit shrinking as examples for this. |
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Post by Mclovin on Nov 19, 2020 16:52:28 GMT -5
Gee, I can't wait for part three. Gee, I can't wait for someone to be a sarcastic loser on the internet... OH WAIT THERE IT IS! I wasn't even gonna make a part three but now I am.  |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Nov 19, 2020 17:19:14 GMT -5
Gee, I can't wait for part three. Gee, I can't wait for someone to be a sarcastic loser on the internet... OH WAIT THERE IT IS! I wasn't even gonna make a part three but now I am.  |
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Post by Mclovin on Nov 19, 2020 17:42:27 GMT -5
Gee, I can't wait for someone to be a sarcastic loser on the internet... OH WAIT THERE IT IS! I wasn't even gonna make a part three but now I am. Ok that's pretty funny, I'm too lazy to make another thread so I'll probably do that tomorrow. |
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Post by The Lion's Den on Nov 19, 2020 20:16:05 GMT -5
I actually noticed that as a casual wrestling fan nowadays (grew up watching the mid 90's - 0/3/04). I watched a recent video of Kane where he was the same size he always was, he definitely packed on a few in the later years though.
I always thought it was what it was. They probably never really change. I also figure it's like sports, they list them taller to give off the illusion that they're bigger, stronger, more intimidating. The NBA started measuring players with and without shoes though. If Kane was 6"7 no shoes, he could have been 6"9-10 in wrestling boots.
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Post by CymruX2 on Nov 19, 2020 23:18:18 GMT -5
Guys getting shorter as they age that's a legit thing, the spine compresses and knee ops etc both can alter a person's height.
As for guys getting taller? From a kayfabe stand point I can only assume that they're measured fully clothed and different footwear changes their height slightly.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 20, 2020 7:30:24 GMT -5
Angle shrunk a fair bit over the years. Makes sense due to all them injuries. Did he actually shrink or was it a case of his knees just naturally bending as part of his posture over the years? We used to talk about this in the RAW thread when he was active last year.  |
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Post by rowdy1971 on Nov 20, 2020 10:07:52 GMT -5
Ok that's pretty funny, I'm too lazy to make another thread so I'll probably do that tomorrow. lol it's all good. I meant it in fun. |
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Post by Mclovin on Nov 20, 2020 14:43:47 GMT -5
Ok that's pretty funny, I'm too lazy to make another thread so I'll probably do that tomorrow. lol it's all good. I meant it in fun. Ah, I thought you were being a jerk lmao. That's the bad part of the internet, tone gets lost and all that's left is the words on the screen. |
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Nov 20, 2020 17:04:55 GMT -5
Wrestlers have different pairs of boots to meet regulatory heights for specific state guidelines.
These threads remind me of the time in WWF Magazine when Shawn Michaels and Alundra Blayze had a recurring article together called "The Love Lorn" that was mostly Q&A. A fan asked HBK why he tapes his wrists, to which he said "so I don't hurt myself when punching fools like you". Made me lol.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 21, 2020 13:08:23 GMT -5
Vince McMahon told us years ago..... "because anything can happen in the World Wrestling Federation!"
That includes height changes too!
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 22, 2020 9:15:12 GMT -5
In the case of WCW heights compared to WWF heights, WWF treats(ed) WCW as it didnt exist so they didnt care. I never understood why they would bill someone at a height that they're clearly not. I have a 6'5'' friend who is just an inch or two shorter than Kane...which means Kane and taker arent the 6'10" guys they say they are but more 6'7''....Marty Jannetty is billed at 5'11'' and he's a solid 3-4 inches shorter than me. I remember before he tore his bicep in 2002 that Kane/Glen Jacobs use to wear lifts in his boots. When he returned in 2002 he didn’t wear them (or atleast not as high as they were before), and Goldust was nearly the same height as him (Dustin was always promoted as 6’6” to 6’7”). |
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Nov 23, 2020 18:16:17 GMT -5
Kane is pretty much the exact same as test here. Test was 6'6 However in older videos kane is atleast 2 inches taller. When he came back in 2002 he must have changed boots and dropped the lifts. *Edit Here in 1999 Hes the same size as test as well 1998 he looks taller than test he must have dropped the lifts sometime after this here is kane with imposter kane Luke gallows. Gallows listed as 6'8 and is taller than Kane, again putting him at 6'6/6'7 Attachment Deleted |
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Post by BØRNS on Nov 24, 2020 5:36:38 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan is billed at 5'10" but when I met him we were the same height eye to eye and I'm like 5'6-7"
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