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Post by vampiroporvida on Dec 16, 2020 11:33:51 GMT -5
Hello all, being that everyone here has a unique set of what made them a fan, and keeps them fans of wrestling, I figured this might be a fun set of questions....
In your minds, whom was the most innovative wrestler in terms of moves created and done?
Most important move in wrestling?
The best promo?
The best gimmick or look?
The most influential wrestler(s) for you, and overall?
What have you learned from wrestling that you apply to life?
This doesn't have to be restricted to a year or promotion.
To me: Nova (ECW) was the most creative/innovative move maker, but Taz would be a near tie for me (luchadors gave the most overall though). The Stunner is the most important move created. While CM Punk's Pipe Bomb, and anything Heyman touches is gold, I have to say it'd be a 3 way tie with Shane Douglas / Austin / Rock....those 3 were transcenders. Bam Bam may have had the best look for me, though Sting and Vampiro are easy choices too. Tommy Dreamer was my most influential for the love of the sport going forward, but Shawn Michaels and Austin kept me going to what Andre the Giant started for me....Hogan and Austin (I cannot pick) were the most important saving graces, overall.
Oddly, DTA is something I learned and found to be true, and did adopt in my life.
I hope this provides a little thought piece and fun for you all. Thanks to Wfigs for giving me a place to unwind this year. Happy Holidays.
VPV
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Post by MKSavage on Dec 16, 2020 12:42:22 GMT -5
In your minds, whom was the most innovative wrestler in terms of moves created and done? Maybe Dynamite Kid
Most important move in wrestling? DDT
The best promo? Jake the Snake Roberts
The best gimmick or look? Gimmick Gimmick = Undertaker, look = Ultimate Warrior
The most influential wrestler(s) for you, and overall? Hard to say, I'll go with Randy Savage.
What have you learned from wrestling that you apply to life? Stunner your boss when they make you mad...
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Post by k5 on Dec 16, 2020 13:35:02 GMT -5
In your minds, whom was the most innovative wrestler in terms of moves created and done? Maybe Dynamite KidMost important move in wrestling? DDTThe best promo? Jake the Snake RobertsThe best gimmick or look? Gimmick Gimmick = Undertaker, look = Ultimate WarriorThe most influential wrestler(s) for you, and overall? Hard to say, I'll go with Randy Savage.What have you learned from wrestling that you apply to life? Stunner your boss when they make you mad... i was absolutely going to go with dynamite. changed the game absolutely. i think harley race would be a fair second. |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Dec 16, 2020 15:55:17 GMT -5
Billy Graham, Hogan or RVD
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 16, 2020 16:00:32 GMT -5
So many of those Calgary fellas deserve to be mentioned, especially Dynamite and Bret.
Equally, I think Rey Mysterio is easy to overlook because he's still going and his innovations aren't captured on grainy old footage, but has been the lucha libre equivalent of William Shakespeare when it comes to innovation.
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Post by E N I G M A on Dec 16, 2020 18:58:08 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels and to a latter extent Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles. Shawn paved the way for small guys to be taken seriously as Main Eventers, Jeff proved that you don’t have to be conventional to make it to the top and Styles showed that you can be a big enough name outside of the flagship that is WWE. Without these 3, 85% of todays rosters of WWE, Impact and AEW wouldn’t exist.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Dec 16, 2020 23:21:12 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy has to be at the top of the top 5 influential wrestlers of the last 30 years.
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Post by Darkhawk on Dec 17, 2020 1:42:47 GMT -5
AJ Styles and Jeff Hardy!
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Post by Mongo Bears on Dec 17, 2020 7:46:54 GMT -5
Easy. Billy Graham
If it wasn’t for him then Bruno would still be the champ
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Post by Next Man’s No 503K on Dec 17, 2020 11:24:42 GMT -5
In your minds, whom was the most innovative wrestler in terms of moves created and done?
Shawn Michaels. Sweet chin music is approximately 95% of the Young Bucks and Usos combined offensive moves per match. He also innovated the aerodynamic receding hairline that Dean Ambrose, Nick Jackson, Bray Wyatt and other top stars imitate today. Although Undertaker and Paul Heyman were quite influential there too.
Most important move in wrestling?
Turning Andre the Giant heel
The best promo?
John Cena
The best gimmick or look?
Ultimate Warrior
The most influential wrestler(s) for you, and overall?
For me, Edge.
Overall, Hulk Hogan.
What have you learned from wrestling that you apply to life?
If someone puts you in a figure four, roll over.
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Post by Quazimoto on Dec 17, 2020 13:55:42 GMT -5
In your minds, whom was the most innovative wrestler in terms of moves created and done?
I don't think you can really name just one person who's been the most innovative wrestler ever. There's a ton of guys who added a little something here and a little something there. Dynamite Kid and Shawn Michaels would have to be up there, but there's a whole slew of others throughout history who could easily be mentioned... Rey Mysterio, Vader, Bret Hart, Jushin Liger, Eddie Guerrero, Jack Evans, The Hardy Boys, Edge & Christian... There's a huge list really.
Most important move in wrestling?
Another tough one, but if I had to choose one, it would probably be the standing dropkick. Before someone threw a standing dropkick, wrestling was entirely mat based and very grappling heavy. A dropkick might not seem like much today, but it was pretty well the first time someone left their feet to deliver an offensive maneuver. Without the standing dropkick, you wouldn't see any dives, flips, flops, or flying.
The best promo?
Mick Foley and Jake Roberts. Both had an incredible ability to draw their audience in and didn't need to resort to being loud, boisterous, or crude. You listened because you believed whatever they had to say would be important.
The best gimmick or look?
Best gimmick: The Undertaker, without question. Best Look: Frankly impossible to pick just one. Ultimate Warrior had an amazing look. He was a real life superhero. Just about any iteration of The Undertaker. I always though Bret Hart had a great look as a pro wrestler. Kurt Angle look like a legit wrestling machine once he went bald. Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre are basically prototype wrestlers for the modern era. Rey Mysterio used his talent to overcome his lack of size, but his visual appeal was a tremendous factor in making him a legend in the business. Tons of others who could be mentioned as well.
The most influential wrestler(s) for you, and overall?
Most influential for me would probably be The Undertaker and Bret Hart. Most influential overall... How could it not be Gorgeous George? Like, seriously... who else changed the professional wrestling business on such a fundamental level. He brought the entertainment aspect to it. You could make a case for guys to Superstar Billy Graham, Hulk Hogan, The Undertaker, Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Dynamite Kid, Trish Stratus, Lita, The Hardy Boyz, Jushin Liger, Vader, Bam Bam Bigelow, Ric Flair, Mil Mascaras, and a whole host of other guys and gals throughout history as being hugely influential to the history of the business and the wrestlers themselves, but none of them had the impact that Gorgeous George did. Without Gorgeous George, wrestling would look a lot different today.
What have you learned from wrestling that you apply to life?
That life, like wrestling, should be a little bit of a lot of different things.
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Dec 17, 2020 14:17:56 GMT -5
In your minds, whom was the most innovative wrestler in terms of moves created and done?
Scott Steiner pre Big Poppa Pump
Most important move in wrestling?
Superfly top rope splash
The best promo?
The Rock
The best gimmick or look?
Ultimate Warrior
The most influential wrestler(s) for you, and overall?
For me = Goldberg, Overall = Superstar Billy Graham
What have you learned from wrestling that you apply to life?
Don't trust anyone
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Post by Eugene69 on Dec 17, 2020 17:00:55 GMT -5
Stone cold Steve Austin
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 22, 2020 5:09:56 GMT -5
Easy. Billy Graham If it wasn’t for him then Bruno would still be the champ And Hulk Hogan (and therefore the golden era) would never have happened. There'd have been no WCW Nitro or WWF Raw, no WrestleMania, no Attitude. It's kind of crazy how someone who gets so overlooked is singularly responsible for so much. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 22, 2020 5:10:54 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy has to be at the top of the top 5 influential wrestlers of the last 30 years. Who would be your other four? |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Dec 22, 2020 7:07:11 GMT -5
Easy. Billy Graham If it wasn’t for him then Bruno would still be the champ And Hulk Hogan (and therefore the golden era) would never have happened. There'd have been no WCW Nitro or WWF Raw, no WrestleMania, no Attitude. It's kind of crazy how someone who gets so overlooked is singularly responsible for so much. You are so right brother. Most people forget or don’t know, there is no wrestling as we know it without Graham’s influence. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 22, 2020 16:23:12 GMT -5
And Hulk Hogan (and therefore the golden era) would never have happened. There'd have been no WCW Nitro or WWF Raw, no WrestleMania, no Attitude. It's kind of crazy how someone who gets so overlooked is singularly responsible for so much. You are so right brother. Most people forget or don’t know, there is no wrestling as we know it without Graham’s influence. If he hadn't have fallen out with Vince I'm certain he would be a featured part of their historical propaganda. |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Dec 22, 2020 16:32:25 GMT -5
You are so right brother. Most people forget or don’t know, there is no wrestling as we know it without Graham’s influence. If he hadn't have fallen out with Vince I'm certain he would be a featured part of their historical propaganda. Vince is an ungrateful d**k Superstar BG made him millions |
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Post by drifter on Dec 22, 2020 16:39:48 GMT -5
And Hulk Hogan (and therefore the golden era) would never have happened. There'd have been no WCW Nitro or WWF Raw, no WrestleMania, no Attitude. It's kind of crazy how someone who gets so overlooked is singularly responsible for so much. You are so right brother. Most people forget or don’t know, there is no wrestling as we know it without Graham’s influence. Not just Hogan, guys like Jesse Ventura and Scott Steiner were influenced by him, and it was a segment where Vince McMahon interviewed Graham, that apparently got Paul Heyman interested in wrestling, and made him decide, pro wrestling it what he wanted to do. You take Billy Graham out of the equation, remove him from the history of wrestling, and we'd have a drastically different world of wrestling today. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Dec 22, 2020 17:40:35 GMT -5
You are so right brother. Most people forget or don’t know, there is no wrestling as we know it without Graham’s influence. Not just Hogan, guys like Jesse Ventura and Scott Steiner were influenced by him, and it was a segment where Vince McMahon interviewed Graham, that apparently got Paul Heyman interested in wrestling, and made him decide, pro wrestling it what he wanted to do. You take Billy Graham out of the equation, remove him from the history of wrestling, and we'd have a drastically different world of wrestling today. I'd never known that about Heyman. Amazing! So you can add no ECW to that list. |
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