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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 1, 2021 11:59:25 GMT -5
Both Rumble matches were entertaining. Not particularly well wrestled, pretty sloppy for the women actually, but compelling.
Loved seeing Carlito. Loved how they booked Rollins. Loved getting Christian out there even more. Seeing him and Edge was magic. My biggest complaint for Edge winning the Rumble is that I would much rather see him work with Christian in a tag match. Christian vs AJ Styles at Mania would be great stuff imo if they run with it. Do an E&C tag match at Fastlane where they win and have them both lose at Mania in singles matches. Thought Big E came off as a star in the Rumble. Probably the guy that gained the most in my eyes.
Toni Storm is amazing imo. Hope she beats Io. She carried a ton of the Rumble match and then tagged off to Rhea. The discrepancy in work rate between a few women and the rest of the roster is massive. But Billie Kay, Alexa Bliss, Alicia/Truth, and definitely how they booked the final three was really good stuff for me.
Thought KO was MVP of the night. I didn’t care at all about that match, but KO sucked me into everything. Loved the forklift spot.
Rest of the card was trash. Props to Carmella for doing a full scorpion. It was like Titus falling under the ring Lite. None of this made me want to watch Raw or Smackdown, but at least my ears are perked heading for Mania.
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Post by robbutler01 on Feb 1, 2021 12:19:24 GMT -5
WWE is in a weird spot where half the roster is "old guys" who are still talented, and still have a LOT left in the tank...while the other half is "young talent" who are trying to find their way through a sea of 50/50 booking, start/stop pushes, and really directionless pointless boring storylines. That being said, professional wrestling is about STORIES and the story they are telling with Edge...who is one of the greatest to ever do it whether you like him or not, is ing awesome. Yeah I’m all for pushing new guys but sometimes there are stories ready to be told and that’s what this Edge win was. His Ironman run and the Orton stuff and Christian’s return all wrapped up in a perfect story and I wasn’t at all upset about him winning. It would have made more impact if Bianca hadnt been no 3 and won lasting 56 mins tho. For me it took something away from Edge doing the same after it had just been done
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Post by K5 on Feb 1, 2021 12:37:36 GMT -5
people are acting like this is the Daniel Bryan/Batista royal rumble situation years ago
who was supposed to win that's this young talent that would've benefitted? ricochet? he hasn't been booked strongly to suddenly be thrusted into the main event. Matt riddle? meh. I don't see what young talent was just needing this spot.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 1, 2021 12:39:05 GMT -5
Wow the last man standing botch really killed that match. The ref was too quick. I was most surprised to see Ricochet of all people. Jerry Lawler couldn't name one Royal Rumble moment in the pre-show. Seriously. If the RR is the only show he announces on every year, that's okay. But no more.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 1, 2021 12:41:52 GMT -5
The younger guys aren't over because Vince the older guys are over because... Vince
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Feb 1, 2021 14:31:09 GMT -5
Edge 🥳
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Post by Sizzle on Feb 1, 2021 14:58:07 GMT -5
The more I think about it the better I feel an Edge win actually is. Smackdown is really thin in the main event scene as it feels like most of the roster is gunning for the IC title. Other than Daniel Bryan who I believe can just move anywhere throughout the card and not feel out place, I feel like no one would’ve been appropriate besides like maybe AJ Styles who is a heel rn. I feel like Edge can bring some credibility to the Smackdown main event scene and be a great matchup for Reigns at Mania.
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Post by Dan on Feb 1, 2021 14:58:45 GMT -5
WWE is in a weird spot where half the roster is "old guys" who are still talented, and still have a LOT left in the tank...while the other half is "young talent" who are trying to find their way through a sea of 50/50 booking, start/stop pushes, and really directionless pointless boring storylines. Couldn't agree more. There's just such an underwhelming lack of fresh star power or charisma across the entire roster at the moment. It's why people start to clamour for the likes of Big E to win the Rumble - it's just he's because one of the only ones left that's yet to be pushed to the Main Event and have a go at it, not necessarily because he should be the guy. The likes of AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, Shinsuke Nakamura, Jeff Hardy are all incredible workers, but have all had their go's at it, it's nothing we've not seen before. Then there's a whole pool of standard mid-card guys who are great at just being mid-card guys, and then there's not much else outside of that. I feel like we've seen everyone wrestle everyone, and there's just nothing fresh remaining now. NXT does a great job because of it's sole emphasis on making the in-ring wrestling the focal point. It's cultish, so it works, especially with a live and largely adult-based crowd. The same can't be said for the main roster. They're also in a sticky situation because they can no longer rely on the drawing power of part timers or Legends, because the novelty has completely worn off at this point. They rinsed everything out of Lesnar, we've now seen him lose clean multiple times. The same goes for Goldberg. The peak period for Triple H, Lesnar, Goldberg, Undertaker etc was around 3 years ago. Even their in-ring condition just doesn't look believable at this point. The ships sailed now. Edge doesn't quite fall into that bracket just yet, as he's notoriously still a fairly good worker with his in-ring style, and still has a bit of stock to his name since he's still fairly fresh from his return. Roman Reigns vs The Rock, and Roman Reigns retiring John Cena, and eventually Roman Reigns vs CM Punk, is literally all they have left at this point.
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Post by Eric on Feb 1, 2021 15:15:06 GMT -5
Thought Big E came off as a star in the Rumble. Probably the guy that gained the most in my eyes. Well said. I thought so, too, and when he was in it late I thought maybe they'd let him actually win. Too much fan service for that I guess. Same with Daniel Bryan or Cesaro. The emphasis on a Wrestlemania headlining match kinda limits who can win, especially when Roman and Drew (or Brock) hold the titles.
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Post by FLUX on Feb 1, 2021 15:37:19 GMT -5
Everyone seems very upset that a 47 year old Edge, who was able to go 58 minutes after not wrestling for nine years before 2020 AND fresh off a return from a torn triceps won the Royal Rumble, despite desperately clamoring for him to win it when he returned last year. Wow! Clearly, it should've gone to 40 year old Dolph Ziggler, 40 year old Cesaro, 40 year old Shinsuke Nakamura, 39 year old Daniel Bryan, 43 year old AJ Styles or 40 year old Randy Orton instead! And that's not even going into the fact that most of these "new stars" everyone desperately wants to make are all in their early-to-mid 30s! Same can be said for the Women's Royal Rumble. Why have Bianca Belair or Rhea Ripley win and establish themselves as new stars when already established star and multiple time champion with a history of concussion issues Alexa Bliss could've won instead!?!? Wrestling bookers seemingly just can't do anything right whatsoever these days, eh?
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Post by McBlake on Feb 1, 2021 15:42:39 GMT -5
Edge winning is my only down side. I've always been a massive fan, but I'm not interested in a Reigns or Drew match. The only other thing I can see is Orton getting the title off Drew setting up a rematch from last year which is an even bigger no for me. That match does NOT need a championship.
Besides that I thoroughly enjoyed the show and thought both Rumble matches were (for the most part) booked brilliantly. As soon as Bryan was eliminated the winner was a bit too predictable though.
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Post by McBlake on Feb 1, 2021 15:45:07 GMT -5
The best part of the night for me was how they elevated so many deserving guys with big Rumble performances.
Rhea, Belair, Shayna, Big E, Lashley, Riddle, Priest all with great showings.
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Post by Yayo on Feb 1, 2021 16:46:11 GMT -5
I’m fine with Edge winning because every active roster member has been 50/50 booked to hell outside Drew and Roman, and pose no legitimate threat to either. I’m just curious what they’ll do for whichever champion doesn’t face Edge because they didn’t make anyone else in the Rumble look like a legitimate challenger. The most impressive outing outside of Edge was, what, Matt Riddle? He looked great but he too has been booked very poorly up until this point. Bryan could be a strong contender for Reigns, but he once again had a very uneventful Rumble run. Outside of Damien Priest, no one looked like a monster, and outside of edge and Riddle, no one really stood out as going the distance. I feel like WWE have forgotten how to book a Rumble outside of the final 2-3 competitors
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 1, 2021 16:50:07 GMT -5
Otis should’ve won
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 1, 2021 16:53:33 GMT -5
I didn't like Edge winning, but by God I was impressed with him. I did not expect him to wrestle through the entire match. I would say it's the longest he's ever wrestled which was cool. I would've preferred Bryan, Otis, Nakamura or Rollins to win. Bryan especially because he had a story going into the match and a win would've been perfect.
Out of interest what happened to Jey Uso and Keith Lee? I thought they were confirmed for the match.
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Post by rkmo: Garbage Collector on Feb 1, 2021 17:09:51 GMT -5
I didn't like Edge winning, but by God I was impressed with him. I did not expect him to wrestle through the entire match. I would say it's the longest he's ever wrestled which was cool. I would've preferred Bryan, Otis, Nakamura or Rollins to win. Bryan especially because he had a story going into the match and a win would've been perfect. Out of interest what happened to Jey Uso and Keith Lee? I thought they were confirmed for the match. Yim had tested positive for CoVid so it's speculated Lee was held out, at least out of an abundance of caution. No idea about Uce. And I was gonna add to the convo, Edge's story was coming back and winning the Rumble. It's gonna take extra steps for me to get into a story built up with his Mania opponent, outside of another "Edge overcoming the odds" story repeat. Rollins, Big E, Bryan, Sheamus, Lee, Lesnar, even Goldberg all would have had the foundation already laid for a build against Reigns or Drew.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 17:44:19 GMT -5
I wanted to cool off before posting.
I’m done with the Royal Rumble. How could someone pitch the idea of the #1 entrant winning and it get the green light so many times?
No more annual posts about how to make it better or what bothers me about it. Nothing ever changes. Stale.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 1, 2021 17:49:20 GMT -5
I wanted to cool off before posting. I’m done with the Royal Rumble. How could someone pitch the idea of the #1 entrant winning and it get the green light so many times? No more annual posts about how to make it better or what bothers me about it. Nothing ever changes. Stale. #1 and #2 are the same thing, so it's actually been done 5 times now.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 1, 2021 17:50:35 GMT -5
I didn't like Edge winning, but by God I was impressed with him. I did not expect him to wrestle through the entire match. I would say it's the longest he's ever wrestled which was cool. I would've preferred Bryan, Otis, Nakamura or Rollins to win. Bryan especially because he had a story going into the match and a win would've been perfect. Out of interest what happened to Jey Uso and Keith Lee? I thought they were confirmed for the match. Yim had tested positive for CoVid so it's speculated Lee was held out, at least out of an abundance of caution. No idea about Uce. And I was gonna add to the convo, Edge's story was coming back and winning the Rumble. It's gonna take extra steps for me to get into a story built up with his Mania opponent, outside of another "Edge overcoming the odds" story repeat. Rollins, Big E, Bryan, Sheamus, Lee, Lesnar, even Goldberg all would have had the foundation already laid for a build against Reigns or Drew. Ah had no idea, I was wondered why she missed the women's Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 17:53:47 GMT -5
Yim had tested positive for CoVid so it's speculated Lee was held out, at least out of an abundance of caution. No idea about Uce. And I was gonna add to the convo, Edge's story was coming back and winning the Rumble. It's gonna take extra steps for me to get into a story built up with his Mania opponent, outside of another "Edge overcoming the odds" story repeat. Rollins, Big E, Bryan, Sheamus, Lee, Lesnar, even Goldberg all would have had the foundation already laid for a build against Reigns or Drew. Ah had no idea, I was wondered why she missed the women's Rumble. It was actually kinda wacky. She had dispelled a rumor in the morning that she had tested positive, then had to come back in the afternoon and be like "well, I hadn't tested positive then, but I have now. Byyyyyeeeee"
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