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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 14, 2021 11:37:54 GMT -5
Triple H going over Randy Orton in the Main Event of Wrestlemania 25. Not only was the ending of the match itself fairly abrupt and flat as hell, but it did absolutely nothing for Triple H, and more or less diminished Randy Orton's one true opportunity of becoming the face of the Company, and getting to that Cena level. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some huge Randy Orton advocate, even though he's been great the last year or so, but this was the chance to pull the trigger on him and elevate him to that next level, and these opportunities only come around once. Once that opportunity has passed, then nobody will ever really care for it as much if it gets booked in to happen again. He won the Royal Rumble, had an incredible feud and build with Triple H, were rumours floating around that Legacy and Vince McMahon might be involved, and a potential Wrestlemania X-Seven scenario was all but a lock. Then they just went and had Triple H win. For no reason, and that was the end of that. That feud was the pits I thought....it was dud #2 for HHH at WM. Brand new heel faction Legacy gets beaten up by Shane McMahon and then runs from him..... McMahon collective arrogance underestimates crowd reaction & when Orton beats up Steph they cheer like crazy...I mean they pop like motherf*ckers. They mus'tve been the only ones on planet Earth to be surprised by that reaction. The match itself at WM is an absolute turkey. Where was HHHs thirst for revenge? he must've have left it in the parking lot. Their chemistry in matches has never been good anyway but this was particularly bad. The booking suggested Orton had no chance and the crowd didn't care. Stinker from start to finish.
To be fair, the Triple H vs. Randy Orton matches at Unforgiven 2004 and Royal Rumble 2005 are just as bad too. Pinning Orton all 3 times, killing off any push or motivation he had going for him.
I also remember Triple H saying that he knew he couldn't compete after seeing HBK vs. Taker that night, so maybe Triple H and Orton just phoned it in for that main event, knowing the true main event happened a few matches earlier.
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Post by JokerFC on Jan 14, 2021 11:43:52 GMT -5
That feud was the pits I thought....it was dud #2 for HHH at WM. Brand new heel faction Legacy gets beaten up by Shane McMahon and then runs from him..... McMahon collective arrogance underestimates crowd reaction & when Orton beats up Steph they cheer like crazy...I mean they pop like motherf*ckers. They mus'tve been the only ones on planet Earth to be surprised by that reaction. The match itself at WM is an absolute turkey. Where was HHHs thirst for revenge? he must've have left it in the parking lot. Their chemistry in matches has never been good anyway but this was particularly bad. The booking suggested Orton had no chance and the crowd didn't care. Stinker from start to finish.
To be fair, the Triple H vs. Randy Orton matches at Unforgiven 2004 and Royal Rumble 2005 are just as bad too. Pinning Orton all 3 times, killing off any push or motivation he had going for him.
I also remember Triple H saying that he knew he couldn't compete after seeing HBK vs. Taker that night, so maybe Triple H and Orton just phoned it in for that main event, knowing the true main event happened a few matches earlier.
Phones it in?! are you serious? the total professional that is HHH? the guy who eats sleeps and breathes the business? LOL. but seriously though if they did? that makes this sh*tshow even worse. It was a bad idea for a feud from the start....they had zero chemistry and Orton was steamrolled on the run in and a sideshow to the McMahon family affair. Just like Jericho was 7 years earlier. |
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Post by JOEJOEJOEJOE on Jan 14, 2021 12:01:03 GMT -5
Roman Reigns eliminating 4 people in a survivor series match 2013
Roman Reigns eliminating 12 men in the Royal Rumble 2014
Roman Reigns getting BOTH wins against Evolution
Roman Reigns being pushed much stronger than Ambrose and Rollins after the Shield broke up
This infuriated me at the time but when the crowd started booing the crapout of him I was happy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 13:59:18 GMT -5
The first episode of wwecw
John Cena winning his 16th world title(a lot of his reigns were short and meaningless)
Exploiting Eddie Guerrero’s death
Almost anything Vince McMahon has done on tv from 2003 onwards
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 14, 2021 16:23:54 GMT -5
He has every right to be a main eventer in 1993 WWF but they messed it up time after time after time. I get wanting put over Vince's new toy (Luger) and Vince's future boy toy (Shawn) but Perfect had a huge following after his face turn and it would have been a great time to build him to a bigger position. The only thing I can think of is Vince knew he would probably not work out at some point given his original injury and maybe an insurance policy. It does make me mad now that they brought back Brian Christopher to little or no fan fare. How can fans forget that quickly who he was? Or did the fan base change so greatly? To me, the fans who have gone to Wrestlemania the last 10 years probably go to see the spectacle rather than being true, die hard, long time fans. Well, maybe half and half. The song they brought Brian out to sucked too-that wasn't the second Too Cool song and the first one was much better. I was a huge Brian fan when I was a teen. I bugged the crap out of my grandfather to get me to meet him when a friend of his, my grandfather, was going to have his banquet hall host a local indy show. And I got to meet Brian backstage and it was amazing. I know he has been overshadowed by his father and a lot of personal issues but Brian was awesome as a wrestler. Maybe he came back a little too soon before WWE was all into their legends deals and reunions and things like that. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 15, 2021 8:49:08 GMT -5
Yeah we all were mad about that |
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Post by Evil Abed on Jan 15, 2021 10:23:52 GMT -5
Stephanie McMahon telling Paul Heyman that he can call her boss during the invasion. The potentially biggest angle ever in wrestling turned in to another McMahon v McMahon feud in a heartbeat. The irrational part wasn’t so much me turning it off but hiding my remote control under a pillow, like that would keep me safe from it (I was in my early 20’s at the time). Man if they could have gotten Bischoff to WWE a year earlier and done Bischoff/Heyman Unholy Alliance vs. Vince Mcmahon, would’ve at least given “some” legs to the invasion angle. Agreed that McMahon vs. McMahons ruined it. |
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Jan 15, 2021 11:58:16 GMT -5
This. F*cking this. Look how Ivan Koloff has to carry Mosca through the match. And WTF is the "modified figure four" at the 5:05 mark? Look how gassed he is!
F*cking prick.
And when HHH waited a good 30 seconds to pin Booker T after the Pedigree at Wrestlemania 19.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 15, 2021 12:01:31 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar breaking The Streak.
Triple H beating Sting at WM31.
Roman Reigns beating Undertaker at WM33.
These all made me pretty infuriated.
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Post by jason88cubs on Jan 15, 2021 13:49:52 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar breaking The Streak. Triple H beating Sting at WM31. Roman Reigns beating Undertaker at WM33. These all made me pretty infuriated. Sting "This isn't about WCW, that would be stupid"
Here comes DX and NWO
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 15, 2021 13:59:06 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar breaking The Streak. Triple H beating Sting at WM31. Roman Reigns beating Undertaker at WM33. These all made me pretty infuriated. Sting "This isn't about WCW, that would be stupid" Here comes DX and NWO
Hahaha I know right. It was so bad. They literally had Sting say it had nothing to do with WCW and then the match was just one more time for WWE to commemorate beating WCW in the Monday Night Wars. Sting has pretty much said he only went to WWE because he wanted the WrestleMania moment, he wanted the WrestleMania pay day, he's not a mark do he didn't care if he won or lost....but it's also pretty clear at this point that Vince was only interested in bringing Sting in so he could stick it to the one last WCW guy that he never had the opportunity to stick it to. The announcers buried Sting the entire match about how out of his element he must be finally being in front of a massive WrestleMania crowd and in WCW he was a big fish in the tiny pond and NOTHING he's ever done in his career could possibly compare with him finally "making it" to WWE and WrestleMania. Again, the whole thing was WWE commemorating defeating WCW in the Monday Night Wars. |
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Post by ajleefanboy1 on Jan 15, 2021 14:19:03 GMT -5
Don't make fun of me for this but the moment when Nikki Bella was the divas champion and she was about to come up on AJ Lee's title reign. She was scheduled to face Charlotte at the PPV but at the PPV Nikki would have already passed AJ's reign. So what did WWE do? Teased an early title match to make it seem like Charlotte had a chance of stopping Nikki from passing her reign. They had Charlotte win only to be disqualified because of "twin magic" (when they don't even look the same anymore) so Nikki got to keep the title and pass AJ Lee's longest title reign. WWE did it out of spite and nobody else can convince me otherwise. Nikki didn't deserve the achievement. Especially since she hardly ever defended it the entire reign.
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Post by jason88cubs on Jan 15, 2021 14:19:53 GMT -5
Sting "This isn't about WCW, that would be stupid" Here comes DX and NWO
Hahaha I know right. It was so bad. They literally had Sting say it had nothing to do with WCW and then the match was just one more time for WWE to commemorate beating WCW in the Monday Night Wars. Sting has pretty much said he only went to WWE because he wanted the WrestleMania moment, he wanted the WrestleMania pay day, he's not a mark do he didn't care if he won or lost....but it's also pretty clear at this point that Vince was only interested in bringing Sting in so he could stick it to the one last WCW guy that he never had the opportunity to stick it to. The announcers buried Sting the entire match about how out of his element he must be finally being in front of a massive WrestleMania crowd and in WCW he was a big fish in the tiny pond and NOTHING he's ever done in his career could possibly compare with him finally "making it" to WWE and WrestleMania. Again, the whole thing was WWE commemorating defeating WCW in the Monday Night Wars. Didn't Michael Cole say "We've won the War!" which I'm sure came from vince |
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Post by The Lion's Den on Jan 15, 2021 18:08:16 GMT -5
It's hard to say, it was so long ago. I do remember being really shocked when HHH and Stephanie got married and it was all a plot. Also, Austin getting hit by a car. Definitely thought that was real haha.
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 15, 2021 23:42:46 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan and the 2014 Rumble. Though would have been more pissed had he come out just to lose it. It ended up working just fine.
The 2015 Rumble booking. Perfectly fine with Roman winning. I expected it and I’ve always liked Roman. The way the match was played out is just one of the worst booked things ever. Shouldn’t have had Bryan in the thing. Have him return the night after. Having Bray randomly eliminated after a strong run was a bad idea. Half the people in the match got no reaction. The surprises like Bubba and Boogey were eliminated so fast. The Rusev spot at the end was terrible. Having Show and Kane eliminating everyone over in an attempt to give them heat to get people to cheer for Roman was a bad call and backfired. Finally two should have been Bray and Roman who go at it for a while with Roman coming out on top. The Rock rub was unnecessary too. Like holy hell this match was terrible.
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