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Post by PJ on Jan 24, 2021 6:35:16 GMT -5
It'd be great if WWE would allow Mattel to freely sign legends again and if Mattel would put forth an effort to get the big names we're missing but sadly, I don't think those days are ever coming back. Best we can hope for is WWE gets everyone back in the farm that they can or Jazwares starts scooping names up. Who are these big names you’re speaking of? The closest thing I can think of to big names that don’t have a toy in the WWE Mattel line are Owen Hart (which won’t happen), Jeff Jarrett (which can’t happen, but as soon as legally available probably will), and Scott Steiner (which seems unlikely but vaguely possible). And it’s questionable to call any of those big names. Who are you expecting to be included as a headliner for a Legends series that hasn’t had a figure yet? They’ve done every WWE Champion since the company went national, every World champion except Benoit, every Rumble winner except Benoit, every (televised) King of the Ring winner except Owen, every WCW champion except Benoit, Steiner, Jarrett, Russo and Arquette. People complain that there aren’t enough new big names in the line, but that’s because there aren’t any left to do. Top level big names left for me are... Dynamite Kid Steiner Brothers Nikita Koloff Next level wrestlers - Ivan Koloff David Von Erich Pedro Morales Billy Jack Haynes Hercules Barbarian Terry Gordy Buddy Roberts |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 24, 2021 8:24:14 GMT -5
We have gotten so many Beefcakes. How about The Disciple to go with the new Hollywood Hogan?? Steve said in the Q&A that it almost happened, so I'd assume we'll see it eventually. |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jan 24, 2021 8:45:22 GMT -5
It'd be great if WWE would allow Mattel to freely sign legends again and if Mattel would put forth an effort to get the big names we're missing but sadly, I don't think those days are ever coming back. Best we can hope for is WWE gets everyone back in the farm that they can or Jazwares starts scooping names up. Who are these big names you’re speaking of? The closest thing I can think of to big names that don’t have a toy in the WWE Mattel line are Owen Hart (which won’t happen), Jeff Jarrett (which can’t happen, but as soon as legally available probably will), and Scott Steiner (which seems unlikely but vaguely possible). And it’s questionable to call any of those big names. Who are you expecting to be included as a headliner for a Legends series that hasn’t had a figure yet? They’ve done every WWE Champion since the company went national, every World champion except Benoit, every Rumble winner except Benoit, every (televised) King of the Ring winner except Owen, every WCW champion except Benoit, Steiner, Jarrett, Russo and Arquette. People complain that there aren’t enough new big names in the line, but that’s because there aren’t any left to do. There’s an entire ECW roster they haven’t even touched yet. And if they don’t do it soon Jazwares might do it for them There’s also some Attitude midcarders still without figures and Ruthless Aggression midcarders that never got elites |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 9:10:18 GMT -5
It'd be great if WWE would allow Mattel to freely sign legends again and if Mattel would put forth an effort to get the big names we're missing but sadly, I don't think those days are ever coming back. Best we can hope for is WWE gets everyone back in the farm that they can or Jazwares starts scooping names up. Who are these big names you’re speaking of? The closest thing I can think of to big names that don’t have a toy in the WWE Mattel line are Owen Hart (which won’t happen), Jeff Jarrett (which can’t happen, but as soon as legally available probably will), and Scott Steiner (which seems unlikely but vaguely possible). And it’s questionable to call any of those big names. Who are you expecting to be included as a headliner for a Legends series that hasn’t had a figure yet? I think you're confusing "headliners" with "big names" and there's a distinction there. Guys on that Hogan/Warrior/Savage tier are headliners, they're the iconic top tier guys, but there are people beneath that level that are still big names. I'd argue Scott Steiner and Owen are both big names. I'd also argue that basically all of the top ECW guys are big names. Sabu, classic RVD and Rhino, Sandman, Shane Douglas, Raven, Dreamer. Those are big names. Bruiser Brody is a big name, Dynamite Kid is a big name, David von Erich is a big name. Some of those guys are never going to be possible, as you said, but it doesn't change that they're big names that would be great additions to the line. |
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Post by stc13 on Jan 24, 2021 9:15:48 GMT -5
Who are these big names you’re speaking of? The closest thing I can think of to big names that don’t have a toy in the WWE Mattel line are Owen Hart (which won’t happen), Jeff Jarrett (which can’t happen, but as soon as legally available probably will), and Scott Steiner (which seems unlikely but vaguely possible). And it’s questionable to call any of those big names. Who are you expecting to be included as a headliner for a Legends series that hasn’t had a figure yet? They’ve done every WWE Champion since the company went national, every World champion except Benoit, every Rumble winner except Benoit, every (televised) King of the Ring winner except Owen, every WCW champion except Benoit, Steiner, Jarrett, Russo and Arquette. People complain that there aren’t enough new big names in the line, but that’s because there aren’t any left to do. There’s an entire ECW roster they haven’t even touched yet. And if they don’t do it soon Jazwares might do it for them There’s also some Attitude midcarders still without figures and Ruthless Aggression midcarders that never got elites Yeah, I think there's a big difference between people who drew in the real world and who will sell well as action figures. The former list who Mattel hasn't made is pretty short. But clearly there's high demand for first time legends, and there are more than enough names to go around. WWE has really moved away from the strong Legends program they had a few years ago. And that makes sense when you consider they have something like 200 active wrestlers already under contract who they can market. But there's a big market opportunity, and it's pretty clear that Jeremy is well aware of that and more than happy to cash those checks. |
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Post by Mclovin on Jan 24, 2021 9:20:53 GMT -5
I mean Cena is a bigger legend than anyone else in the series, and the look is fine. Would have been cooler to get something more iconic though. Vader was in Boy Meets World. So yeah. Bet you feel a bit silly now. Once again, seeing Cena referred to as a legend just f*cks with me. |
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Post by Mclovin on Jan 24, 2021 9:23:11 GMT -5
I want a WCW Mean Mark Callous, that would be a great Legends figure.
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Post by Warriah' on Jan 24, 2021 9:29:17 GMT -5
Vader was in Boy Meets World. So yeah. Bet you feel a bit silly now. Once again, seeing Cena referred to as a legend just f*cks with me. I have no issue with Cena being referred to as a legend. He and Orton are the only new stars of the past 20 years. |
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Post by thekev12 on Jan 24, 2021 10:26:32 GMT -5
Just noticed this. It’s going to be hard to tell if Beefcake is a Chase or not with the jacket on.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Jan 24, 2021 10:35:45 GMT -5
There’s an entire ECW roster they haven’t even touched yet. And if they don’t do it soon Jazwares might do it for them There’s also some Attitude midcarders still without figures and Ruthless Aggression midcarders that never got elites Yeah, I think there's a big difference between people who drew in the real world and who will sell well as action figures. The former list who Mattel hasn't made is pretty short. But clearly there's high demand for first time legends, and there are more than enough names to go around. WWE has really moved away from the strong Legends program they had a few years ago. And that makes sense when you consider they have something like 200 active wrestlers already under contract who they can market. But there's a big market opportunity, and it's pretty clear that Jeremy is well aware of that and more than happy to cash those checks. People would buy Taz, Sandman, Raven, Sabu, & Douglas for sure. Plus ECW versions of people they already made. I know that at this point a lot of the WWE guys without figures aren’t exactly the biggest stars, but there’s names they can still hit and people who have entire periods of their career untouched. There’s only one Ruthless Mysterio, no mid 2000s Christian, no E&C Edge, no Ruthless HBK, only pre-87 & WM9 WWF Hogan, etc |
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Post by Mclovin on Jan 24, 2021 10:56:44 GMT -5
Once again, seeing Cena referred to as a legend just f*cks with me. I have no issue with Cena being referred to as a legend. He and Orton are the only new stars of the past 20 years. It's not that, it's just had to believe 2006 was 15 years ago and we live in 2021. I'm still young enough to not be used to the passage of time just yet. 2011 was ten years ago and that scares me. Also Brock Lesnar definitely counts as a new star within the last 20 years without a doubt. I'd say Rey Rey half counts, he was already popular in the mid-late 90's. CM Punk and Daniel Bryan count to an extent. All three members of The Shield count to different level (Roman is the biggest star followed by Ambrose/Moxley and Rollins is in last due to his twitter alone). Anymore somewhat big stars? AJ Styles counts he's a big name... That's kinda it. Side note: Orton is better than Cena and if his 2004 face run would have been booked better he'd be the top guy. |
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Post by MKSavage on Jan 24, 2021 13:37:07 GMT -5
Just noticed this. It’s going to be hard to tell if Beefcake is a Chase or not with the jacket on. Yeah, though it may be easier with the figure in hand, you may be able to tilt the box and see the tights on the legs. If not, Mongo Bears pointed out something, the things on his arms have different designs; the arm bands on the chase figure has spots, whereas the regular version has stripes. |
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Jan 24, 2021 14:49:44 GMT -5
Once again, seeing Cena referred to as a legend just f*cks with me. I have no issue with Cena being referred to as a legend. He and Orton are the only new stars of the past 20 years.
Your crazy ? Batista,Brock Lesnar,CM Punk,Roman Reigns are all stars who have been made in the past 20 years or so in the WWE that I would also consider legends.Also the likes of Mysterio,Hardy,Edge but case could be made that they started in the late 90's
Then outside the WWE bubble AJ Styles is clearly a living legend
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Post by ilikekqueen on Jan 24, 2021 14:53:08 GMT -5
I have no issue with Cena being referred to as a legend. He and Orton are the only new stars of the past 20 years.
Your crazy ? Batista,Brock Lesnar,CM Punk,Roman Reigns are all stars who have been made in the past 20 years or so in the WWE that I would also consider legends.Also the likes of Mysterio,Hardy,Edge but case could be made that they started in the late 90's
Then outside the WWE bubble AJ Styles is clearly a living legend
I’m massively biased but I’d also put Rollins in there too. |
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Post by johnnyhanson21 on Jan 24, 2021 15:05:07 GMT -5
Your crazy ? Batista,Brock Lesnar,CM Punk,Roman Reigns are all stars who have been made in the past 20 years or so in the WWE that I would also consider legends.Also the likes of Mysterio,Hardy,Edge but case could be made that they started in the late 90's
Then outside the WWE bubble AJ Styles is clearly a living legend
I’m massively biased but I’d also put Rollins in there too.
Ya he probably should be included as well.I would also add guys like Rhodes,Moxley,Omega,Okada,Tanahashi...ect
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 24, 2021 22:31:19 GMT -5
I’m massively biased but I’d also put Rollins in there too. Ya he probably should be included as well.I would also add guys like Rhodes,Moxley,Omega,Okada,Tanahashi...ect
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jan 24, 2021 22:47:31 GMT -5
I'm glad to see that the merits of whether or not a John Cena figure depicting a look he sported close to twenty years ago meets the criteria for inclusion in a "Legends" line are still wildly undecided.
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Post by ilikekqueen on Jan 24, 2021 23:47:30 GMT -5
Ya he probably should be included as well.I would also add guys like Rhodes,Moxley,Omega,Okada,Tanahashi...ect
You are using the term legend very loosely here... In Japan Okada and Tana definitely are and maybe even Omega is. And I think by the time they hang them up Mox and Cody definitely will. I think Mox already is after his WWE and AEW Title reign |
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 25, 2021 1:47:44 GMT -5
Ya he probably should be included as well.I would also add guys like Rhodes,Moxley,Omega,Okada,Tanahashi...ect
You are using the term legend very loosely here... I mean... WWE call Alicia Fox a "Legend", so... 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 9:14:54 GMT -5
Ya he probably should be included as well.I would also add guys like Rhodes,Moxley,Omega,Okada,Tanahashi...ect
You are using the term legend very loosely here... Tanahashi was a top guy in the number two promotion in the world for over a decade and was the stop gap between New Japan's total collapse and the Bushiroad era. Okada is one of the biggest draws of the post Monday Night War wrestling world and was the guy Bushiroad hand picked when they bought New Japan and flooded the marketing money in and saved the company and the entire Japanese wrestling scene. An entire country's wrestling scene thrived because of him. If those two aren't considered modern legends, I don't want to hear about 2000s or 2010s WWE guys who were on top when the popularity slid or even crashed if we're talking about modern legends. Kenny has an argument too-- there's a major, successful promotion on TNT right now that exists in large part because of him--, and I get that this board has always skewed heavily towards "it only counts if it's WWE" but saying Okada and Tanahashi aren't legends is some real ignorant and uninformed thinking. |
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