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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 22, 2021 14:36:10 GMT -5
I couldn’t find any lists of this and was wondering if there’s any official word as to which performer had the most world title shots throughout their career without actually winning one.
Bulldog comes to mind for me right away, with him having titles shots against Diesel, Hart, HBK, Taker, and HHH throughout the 90s (he had a run for the WCW Title as well in 1993 but didn’t grab that title either).
Piper is another that comes to mind, but I’m more fuzzy on 80s wrestling since I was born in 1990.
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Post by jason88cubs on Mar 22, 2021 15:32:18 GMT -5
Davy Boy comes to mind, Oweh had 3 if I recall
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Post by Artie Kendall on Mar 22, 2021 16:52:02 GMT -5
If you count house shows I think it's Don Muraco.
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 22, 2021 17:51:51 GMT -5
I think if you're looking at high profile challenges it really has to be Bulldog
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Post by Evil Abed on Mar 22, 2021 17:55:29 GMT -5
Does Shane McMahon count?
He had a ton of matches against Triple H and the Rock from 1999 to 2001 that were for a world title. Prob a few others im forgetting.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 24, 2021 10:10:19 GMT -5
The Hogan era of the 80s a lot of guys got WWF Title shots multiple times and never won.
Piper, Orndorff, Studd, Bundy, Muraco, Race, Gang, Valentine, Beefcake, and others from that era would wrestle Hogan for an entire month, doing the loop house show routine.
As for the 90s, Davey Boy Smith definitely comes to mind. Just on PPV alone, he got shots at September 95, October 95, December 95, May 96, and June 96.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 24, 2021 10:32:36 GMT -5
The Hogan era of the 80s a lot of guys got WWF Title shots multiple times and never won. Piper, Orndorff, Studd, Bundy, Muraco, Race, Gang, Valentine, Beefcake, and others from that era would wrestle Hogan for an entire month, doing the loop house show routine. As for the 90s, Davey Boy Smith definitely comes to mind. Just on PPV alone, he got shots at September 95, October 95, December 95, May 96, and June 96. Thanks. I figured someone from the 80s might take the cake here with how many house shows they ran back then which is why Piper popped into my head as a possibility (unless someone in the 70s has it). If looking at just high-profile, televised matches, it’s gotta be Davey Boy. In addition to the matches you listed, he had a few WCW Title shots against Vader in 1993, and fought in the 6-pack challenge and then HHH 1v1 in 1999 as well. Nobody else really jumps out to me like he did as someone who got a bunch of title shots and never won it. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Mar 24, 2021 11:31:08 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never Won |
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Post by drifter on Mar 24, 2021 11:40:55 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonHe had at least one. April 27, 1998 Raw against Stone Cold with Gerald Brisco as guest ref and Vince as the time keeper. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 11:45:43 GMT -5
I know before he won the Universal Championship at Wrestlemania last year, Braun was approaching double digit title shots.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 24, 2021 11:47:45 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonI'm surprised DiBiase did make the list, unless they count him winning it when Andre gave him the belt. But he did have a lot of house and PPV/SNME matches vs Hogan, Savage, and Warrior. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 24, 2021 11:56:10 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonThanks for finding this. Personally I consider Rude a former world champ considering he held the big gold belt 3 times but that’s subjective. Surprised Davey wasn’t on here. In addition to his high profile televised matches I feel like he had more than his fair share of house show title shots. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 12:04:45 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonThanks for finding this. Personally I consider Rude a former world champ considering he held the big gold belt 3 times but that’s subjective. Surprised Davey wasn’t on here. In addition to his high profile televised matches I feel like he had more than his fair share of house show title shots. Rude definitely is a former world champion. It would be like today with Raw and Smackdown both having world titles. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Mar 24, 2021 12:25:24 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonI'm surprised DiBiase did make the list, unless they count him winning it when Andre gave him the belt. But he did have a lot of house and PPV/SNME matches vs Hogan, Savage, and Warrior. I thought the same thing with Dibiase. According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonThanks for finding this. Personally I consider Rude a former world champ considering he held the big gold belt 3 times but that’s subjective. Surprised Davey wasn’t on here. In addition to his high profile televised matches I feel like he had more than his fair share of house show title shots. I think this list is only going on WWE title history and not other promotions which is why Rude and Perfect are here. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Mar 24, 2021 12:45:55 GMT -5
Double post apology, sorry, but if my research is correct, using cagematch.net The British Bulldog was involved in 11 title matches on TV/PPV. Now two of them are a little iffy because one is the 1992 Royal Rumble and the other was the Triple Header match where he replaced Owen Hart. But here is the whole list of matches that he was involved with:
1. - 15-11-1999 - The Big Show defeats The British Bulldog - Raw is War
2. - 28-09-1999 - Triple H vs The British Bulldog No Contest - The Rock Special Referee - Smackdown
3. - 26-09-1999 - Triple H Defeats Kane, Mankind, The Big Show, The British Bulldog, and the Rock - WWF Unforgiven 1999
4. - 23-06-1996 - Shawn Michaesl defeats The British Bulldog - Mr Perfect Outside Referee - King of the Ring 1996
5. - 26-05-1996 - Shawn Michaels vs The British Bulldog - No Contest In Your House 8 Beware of Dog
6. - 17-12-1995 - Bret Hart defeats The British Bulldog - In Your House 5: Season's Beatings
7. - 22-10-1995 - The British Bulldog defeats Diesel - DQ - In Your House 4: Great White North
8. - 24-09-1995 - Two Dudes with Attitudes defeat Camp Cornette (The British Bulldog[replacement for Owen Hart])
9. - 19-08-1993 - Big Van Vader defeats Davey Boy Smith - Clash of the Champions 24
10 - 23-05-1993 - Davey Boy Smith defeats Big Van Vader - DQ - Slamboree 1993
11 - 19-01-1992 - Royal Rumble 1992 for vacant World Heavyweight Title
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 24, 2021 13:05:07 GMT -5
According to this site it's George Steele. Muraco is second. Clearly the list is using houses but Goldust is on the list. I don't recall Goldust getting a televised title shot. Most Title Shots Never WonSurprised Davey wasn’t on here. In addition to his high profile televised matches I feel like he had more than his fair share of house show title shots. I do too. However, unless that list was just for WWF/E, then they may not consider Rude's 3 reigns with the big gold belt as the World Champion because, at that time, the big gold belt was called the International Heavy Weight Championship while the replacement belt that Vader/Sting/Simmons/Flair held during this time was the one they considered as the WCW World Championship. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 24, 2021 13:25:29 GMT -5
Thanks for finding this. Personally I consider Rude a former world champ considering he held the big gold belt 3 times but that’s subjective.Surprised Davey wasn’t on here. In addition to his high profile televised matches I feel like he had more than his fair share of house show title shots. I do too. However, unless that list was just for WWF/E, then they may not consider Rude's 3 reigns with the big gold belt as the World Champion because, at that time, the big gold belt was called the International Heavy Weight Championship while the replacement belt that Vader/Sting/Simmons/Flair held during this time was the one they considered as the WCW World Championship. Yeah they had the weird double world champ thing going on due to the NWA splitting from WCW at the time but I look at it the same way I see Raw and SD each having a world champ. Both under the same company and each has a recognized world champ. I see WCW the same way where they had Vader and Rude both with a rightful claim to be the “real” world champ (which if we get too far into it then Sting and Flair should have more world titles as well but that’s another debate). |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 25, 2021 7:40:11 GMT -5
Bulldog was first to mind before I opened the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 8:56:11 GMT -5
Bulldog was first to mind before I opened the thread. same here! i hated they kept giving him main event title shots on all those in your house shows. he wasnt very popular, they could have done so much more with the roster they had and vince wonders why WCW was steaming ahead of him putting on killer never seen before matches every week. seemed like everytime i turned around it was bulldog in the main event. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 25, 2021 9:15:26 GMT -5
Bulldog was first to mind before I opened the thread. same here! i hated they kept giving him main event title shots on all those in your house shows. he wasnt very popular, they could have done so much more with the roster they had and vince wonders why WCW was steaming ahead of him putting on killer never seen before matches every week. seemed like everytime i turned around it was bulldog in the main event. Glad I’m not the only one who didn’t see Bulldog as a top guy. I always felt he was perfect in the upper midcard, but always out of place in the main event. With the right opponent, he could put on a clinic in the ring, but he could never carry an opponent to a great match himself. On the mic, he was average at best. This isn’t to crap on Davey Boy as I did like him, but he never felt right in the main event to me. It just shows how thin the WWF roster was in ‘95/96 that Vince had to keep going back to him. Personally I’d have turned Razor heel in ‘95 to feud with Diesel but that’s just me. |
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