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Post by hbkjason on Apr 30, 2021 4:03:27 GMT -5
Ok, so this one is really out there and I myself am having a hard time imagining any parallel universe where this went down, but I thought it would be fun.
I loved The Rockers, they were my team when I first got into wrestling and while Shawn Michaels would be the star, I must admit during their heyday, I thought they were both as good as each other. Marty being scared of Shawn and jumping through the Barber Shop window is on of the all time classic moments in WWF history in my opinion.
However, what if they decided that Shawn Michaels was going to be a babyface and Marty was to be the heel? It is so hard to imagine Shawn Michaels in any other way during 1992. I think for a short while at least he could of pulled off the babyface thing, but I do think fans may have turned on him after a while. You do have to wonder if they had given Marty a little bit of a bigger push would it have made him get his crap together? I loved Marty in the Rockers and I was all in each time he came back, but as much has I hate to say it the guy is a grade-A f**k up which is so sad. He is like that buddy of yours from highschool that you loved back in the day, but you had to distance yourself from because they refuse to grow up. I still hope that he can get his crap together and I actually think he is worthy of a spot in the hall of fame.
Do you think Marty Jannetty could have pulled off being a heel in 1992? Also, how do you think it would have effected Shawn Michaels career if he had came out of the Rockers as a babyface.
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Post by wolfpac on Apr 30, 2021 7:02:36 GMT -5
It honestly wouldn't have worked for me, Shawn was a better Heel and Marty was a better face.
Maybe in the short term it wouldn't be awful but the way things turned out, Marty would be gone, Shawn would turn heel elsewhere and we wouldn't be talking about the barber shop window incident at all.
I really do wish we got the match at Wrestlemania regardless though. Marty was fantastic, but just let his issues direct his career.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Apr 30, 2021 11:41:10 GMT -5
Marty would have had two bodies to dump in the river.  I think it would have fallen flat but I could still see them having a little feud afterwards with a face Shawn still going over. I think, one way or another, Shawn still would have broken out and become a major star. |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 30, 2021 12:26:18 GMT -5
The better question is....
what if Bushwhacker Luke threw Bushwhacker Butch through the barber shop window?!?!
We get....
"The Heartbreak Kid" Luke Williams!!
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Post by The Brain on Apr 30, 2021 14:48:36 GMT -5
Yeah I dont think it wouldve worked.Couldnt see Marty in that cocky heel role.Him in that role in 96 with the ''New'' Rockers just felt weird as hell.He was one of those guys who just was destined for the baby role.
They definitely picked the right guy to turn in this situation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 17:59:37 GMT -5
Yeah I dont think it wouldve worked.Couldnt see Marty in that cocky heel role.Him in that role in 96 with the ''New'' Rockers just felt weird as hell.He was one of those guys who just was destined for the baby role. They definitely picked the right guy to turn in this situation. So you don’t think Shawn would be a coward and leave through the window?😀 |
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 30, 2021 20:13:08 GMT -5
It would have worked but 2 things need to change, 1) Marty would have to be clean and 2) the type of heel Marty would be couldnt be the type that Shawn was...It just wouldnt have clicked in that way.
Im not saying it would be as good, but it could work
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 30, 2021 23:43:38 GMT -5
To answer the question in an honest way, no, it would never work.
Marty couldn't be heel. His heel role in 1996 with Lief Cassidy was brutal. Marty was meant to be the babyface. The good guy. The underdog. Heel role for Marty Jannetty just doesn't work.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 19, 2021 16:09:15 GMT -5
Where would you guys rank Shawn Michaels turning on Marty Jannetty in all time heel turns? I think its a solid #2 and helped kickstart HBK's path to a HOF career even though he ended up having most of his success as a babyface. The moment itself is epic and Jannetty himself has said he loves it because 30 years later, people are still talking about it.
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Post by The Brain on Jul 19, 2021 16:14:16 GMT -5
Where would you guys rank Shawn Michaels turning on Marty Jannetty in all time heel turns? I think its a solid #2 and helped kickstart HBK's path to a HOF career even though he ended up having most of his success as a babyface. The moment itself is epic and Jannetty himself has said he loves it because 30 years later, people are still talking about it. Its definitely up there. You can see in his demeanor that Michaels is a future top player. Tremendous selling by Marty along with gold commentary by Bobby and yeah this heel turn is among the best. |
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 23, 2021 8:52:59 GMT -5
The thing that is interesting about this is to put yourself back in early 1992 when this all went down, not to see it today where we know what would become of both.
Back then, Shawn Michaels IMO wasn’t any more charismatic than Marty was, and in the ring they were about on point, I would say Marty was actually who I considered to be the face of the Rockers. I think Shawn grew comfortable with being that cocky heel, Nash & even Shawn himself has said, Shawn wasn’t a confident ladies man in those days. Shawn has said many times he wasn’t comfortable with that gimmick at first and he kind of grew into it as people believed more and more that this is who he actually was.
Of course, as time went on, it’s hard to imagine anybody being better at that than Shawn was. He was clearly the successful wrestler coming out of the Rockers. But it would of been interesting to see what would have become of Marty had he been given the ball, because AT THAT TIME, I really don’t think Shawn was better at any one thing. People will say Marty was a screw up but I mean, Shawn wasn’t? I think in a lot of ways, the only reason Shawn didn’t become Marty was because he was given more opportunities & more tolerance. (And Marty was given more than enough 2nd chances but he was also punished more severely than Shawn was for his screw ups.) Shawn never got fired for his mistakes, where as Marty always had to be reestablished each time he came back, and one time in particular, Shawn had gotten Marty unfairly fired.
I think about this a lot & I actually asked Marty himself one time on a In Your Head wrestling radio podcast, a similar question (it’s on YouTube 😋). I think Shawn would have became the bigger star, and I wouldn’t gamble all my chips on an alternate universe where Marty got the ball and did it better, I think Shawn would have become the bigger star regardless. But it would be interesting to see what Marty would have done because at that time, they weren’t that far apart if at all.
It’s very easy to look at it in 2021 and say, oh no question Shawn was better. But I’m telling you, at that time, I’d say it was 50/50 as to who I’d take the risk on, and I personally would have leaned towards Marty being the better of the 2.
I feel Shawn was put on a path that groomed him to become the charismatic heel he grew comfortable in being, but I didn’t see any signs of that in the Rockers that he’d be any better at that than Marty would be. Had Marty been given that ball, it would be interesting to see what he would have done with it. It’s not far fetched to think we’d be sitting here today asking what went wrong with Shawn Michaels. In those early years, 92-93, Shawn was kind of an afterthought. He got very out of shape for a bit there and I remember thinking like, man what happened haha, Shawn use to be athletic. But he came back in a big way for that ladder match & he never looked back after that.
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