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Post by Gorilla on Jun 3, 2021 12:22:20 GMT -5
So after watching Dark Side of the Ring, I have a bunch of questions about a potential championship reign for Jake.
What he was saying sounds like a lie but if we are to believe him, what would booking look like? What does booking look like if Warrior gets fired after losing to Jake? What does it look like if they both stay?
I thought Jake was fairly washed as an in ring performer in 1991, great on the mic still and great character. Do they have Jake putting over Flair? Undertaker? Bret? Hogan?? Yokozuna?
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 3, 2021 12:47:38 GMT -5
Well Jake was never gonna be WWF Champion, so I am not sure what he was talking about there. Hogan was champion and set to work a program with Undertaker, and Warrior was gonna work the program with Jake.
Warrior would have beaten him at every show, and I am sure at Survivor Series it would have been Warrior, LOD and Boss Man vs. Jake, Natural Disasters and IRS. Sid just took Warrior's spot pretty much.
Jake was set to retire in 1992. He was gonna be an agent but Pat Patterson ended up staying and screwed that up so Jake held up Vince for money at Wrestlemania VIII. And then was fired.
My guess is that when Warrior did it and Vince gave in, a lot of the wrestlers knew that they could hold up Vince for money. Problem is, they also know that is gonna be their last match in the WWF for quite some time.
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Post by rowdy1971 on Jun 3, 2021 12:54:31 GMT -5
Warrior ran over Andre in every match they had. Warrior would have done the same thing to Jake. The matches would have sucked. Warrior is 1000 mph, while Jake is a lot slower in the ring. Here is the end of all their matches. Jake catches Warrior with his short arm clothesline and then hits the DDT, Warrior would have just jumped up and three clotheslines and a splash later Jake is counting the lights.
Jake always uses that story about Vince looking at him saying he has "the worst luck". Jake said it happened with Hogan, with Savage, now with Warrior.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 3, 2021 13:06:22 GMT -5
It could be a lie, or maybe not. I have seen so many shoot interviews where a wrestlers says they were promised a title run; either the wrestler is lying, or, they were actually promised a run but plans changed. The Warrior/Jake feud must have been discussed just after WM7. If that were the case, they hadn't signed Flair yet, so it is logical to think that if the feud with Warrior and Jake went well; maybe Jake wins the final match in the feud with outside help from Taker. Then maybe he would get a shot at Hogan for the title - granted a short run like Sarge. At the time, before they signed Flair, the heel side of the card was not as strong. I could see Vince looking at the card and saying Taker and Jake are my most likely opponents for Hogan going forward. Savage "retired", DiBiase was moving down the card, Perfect was still IC Champ, Earthquake was moving to the tag team division, and Sarge just had his run/shot. Jake and Taker were all that were left. Vince was maybe thinking if they could really get Jake over as a heel, maybe this time the Hogan/Jake feud would work. Having him turn on Warrior and ruining Savage's wedding could have made him the ultimate heel at the time. But, unfortunately for Jake, things didn't work out that way. Warrior was fired and his feud was over before it began. He was then working house shows with Sid and feuding with Savage, and the WWF signed Flair. Chances are Vince saw the new guy Flair as his best option and set up that feud instead.
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Post by The Brain on Jun 3, 2021 13:29:43 GMT -5
I love Jake but I just dont see him getting the belt during this time period.It wouldve been great to see em DDT Hogan and win the big one for a short time but at the end of the day Taker was the star on the rise so giving him the belt at SSeries made all the sense in the world.
As far as the feud with Warrior goes, it's a shame it never got off the ground as I was invested in the stuff he did with em which led to his classic heel turn.The matches wouldve been nothing to write home about but man the promos wouldve been must see TV.
In the end though we got Jake/Mach which is one of my fav feuds of all time so cant complain.
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 3, 2021 13:43:19 GMT -5
I love Jake but I just dont see him getting the belt during this time period.It wouldve been great to see em DDT Hogan and win the big one for a short time but at the end of the day Taker was the star on the rise so giving him the belt at SSeries made all the sense in the world. As far as the feud with Warrior goes, it's a shame it never got off the ground as I was invested in the stuff he did with em which led to his classic heel turn.The matches wouldve been nothing to write home about but man the promos wouldve been must see TV. In the end though we got Jake/Mach which is one of my fav feuds of all time so cant complain.Still to this day, my all-time favorite feud. Second would be Bret/Austin, then Savage/Warrior. Yeah, I think by the end of 1991, Jake getting a run at the belt was unlikely. The only way I see him getting it is if the Warrior feud happened and Flair doesn't come to the WWF. I could see Jake interfering in the Undertaker/Hogan match at Survivor Series 1991, maybe costing Hogan the belt like Flair did, then have Hogan regain the belt from Taker at Tuesday in Texas. Then do the same thing with the rumble in 1992, have it for the title, Jake wins and becomes the WWF champion, then goes on to face Hogan at WM8.
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Post by Gorilla on Jun 3, 2021 15:31:51 GMT -5
I feel like Warrior should have dropped the belt to Undertaker. That would have made much more sense
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Post by PJ on Jun 4, 2021 7:57:40 GMT -5
Personally I don’t think Jake was getting a run with the title, but who really knows what Vince told him. I do think it could have been cool/entertaining if he was. Maybe with Warrior Jake meant he was going to be in an extended main event program with Warrior where he would have been making a lot more money?
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Post by Gorilla on Jun 5, 2021 13:32:07 GMT -5
Or title drop from Jake to Savage to Flair??
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Post by The Brain on Jun 5, 2021 13:35:35 GMT -5
Or title drop from Jake to Savage to Flair??
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Post by MKSavage on Jun 5, 2021 17:50:40 GMT -5
Or title drop from Jake to Savage to Flair?? That could have worked but I think the only reason that Savage got a second run with the WWF title was because of Hogan leaving after WM8. It really looked like WWF was planning a long running Hogan/Flair feud. It looks like Hogan was going to win the title back from Flair at WM8 with a possible rematch at Summer Slam. It also looks like when Flair signed with the company, any chance of Jake getting a run with Hogan went out the window.
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