onlymoc21
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Post by onlymoc21 on Jun 22, 2021 10:25:57 GMT -5
No one has ever attacked anyone in a personal level, their business approach has certainly been questioned but no one has targeted them personally. No warnings, no explanations as to why a thread is locked, just seems shady. exactly. the worst i've seen is someone saying he comes across as an a**hole in reference to a screenshot of him being a-hole-ish towards someone for no reason. it's funny because if you go read that other new retro thread that got locked, zombie actually replied and started sh*tting on this site and all the users with comments that were way more personal and hostile than any of the comments i've seen about him. EDIT: the moderator just told me the admins locked the other threads because matt cardona and zombie were being bullied lmfao. unbelievable. Your kidding me dude? They have a platform to defended their actions and behaviours here too. Unbelievable that people are policing on their behalf. I will love to see how Zombie handles his customer service once product is released and good old Matt, will creep the boards for content for his podcast but does not actually contribute anything of note. Anyway, Giant Haystacks, I prefer the blue attire, dude is known to UK fanbase and I am sure their is a market for him on home ground.
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Post by newgenandy on Jun 22, 2021 10:27:03 GMT -5
Maybe we all can just agree to not discuss the Heels & Faces line anymore. Something very positive: I got my 2 Meanie sets, both with cracked cards. Getting a replacement was absolutely smoothless. That’s what I call great service. We even had a nice chat on IG. Chella is highly recommend for future purchases. I had a similarly great experience the one time I needed to reach-out to them - they posted that they would be sending out the Aldis figure early the following week, but I knew I was not going to be around after the middle of that week and would be away for a while, so I asked if there was any chance they could send mine out a little bit earlier so it would arrive before I left, and they were able to accommodate me and make that happen. The figures arrived the day before I left and saved everyone a lot of potential hassle. Maybe a small thing, but I really appreciated them helping me with that. I have all their other figures on order now; looking forward to adding Giant Haystacks to the family! That’s awesome! Well done chella. Glad I’m supporting this line
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crush
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Post by crush on Jun 22, 2021 10:44:39 GMT -5
I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but I would imagine because every thread has devolved on some level into personal arguments about the merits of ZST, the MWFP guys, etc. No one has ever attacked anyone in a personal level, their business approach has certainly been questioned but no one has targeted them personally. No warnings, no explanations as to why a thread is locked, just seems shady. Depends what "personal level" is considered. There have been multiple posts across the various threads that the the Pod guys are secretly in cahoots with ZST and hiding making money off the line, and etc. I don't know if I agree that stuff like that is "bullying" but I can also definitely see the interpretation that it goes beyond "questioning business approach."
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The Real Chillary
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jun 22, 2021 10:49:39 GMT -5
Give me a break, that is not bullying in the slightest. If that were the case, then nobody on this forum would ever been allowed to be negative about Mattel or Jazwares or WWE etc. ever again.
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jacktunney
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Post by jacktunney on Jun 22, 2021 10:54:25 GMT -5
My summary of ZST.
Was very interested when announced > Was up in the air due to price point (I understand why they are priced where they are) > 100% out due to how Zombie handles himself
(He was actually hilarious on the other thread.I was certain a 12 year old created an imposter account).
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jun 22, 2021 10:59:27 GMT -5
LOL, we're gonna all take a stance against "bullying" after ZST seemingly got into the PBR stash last night and had a go-off to the all-too-familiar tune of "everyone here is pathetic, look how much money I make, it must be so sad being you" that we've seen a thousand times over before either going at or DMing a bunch of members, offering to send them figures for free because they "obviously can't afford it themselves".
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y2j
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Post by y2j on Jun 22, 2021 11:17:12 GMT -5
The argument that the high prices are justified because ZST is just a small company is completely killed by the fact they came on here bragging about how much of a profit they are making. Was on the fence before that but will never support them now.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Jun 22, 2021 11:27:23 GMT -5
The argument that the high prices are justified because ZST is just a small company is completely killed by the fact they came on here bragging about how much of a profit they are making. Was on the fence before that but will never support them now. Yeeeaaahh...especially since there hasn't been a sell through (assuming the pre-order limits were legit). Assuming a full sell through at $40/ea, revenue would be $500,000. If even $200,000 of that was gross profit, then COGS would be $300,000, which at 2,500 each of a five-figure set is $24 a figure. If he's at $200k already, I'm guessing that cost is even lower. (Or this is just posturing) Kinda weird to be tossing out braggadocious numbers like that when the line hasn't even gone to full production yet, tho. Source: a pathetic loser who does this sort of thing for a living.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 11:49:48 GMT -5
Mods, can you please change the name of this thread to: Grown men in group chat resentful towards successful toy manufacturer due to their short comings in life No, because then said grown men would cry even harder than they already are. As I posted in the previous thread I’ve already purchased both Sabu and Earl Hebner, and I plan on being a customer as long as you keep producing figures. I’m thrilled that you’re releasing Jeff Jarrett, and I hope your line continues to be a success no matter how much certain posters chose to hate (which I’m sure some of them have actually made orders too). Keep up the great work, and I’m glad to see a businessman standing up for themselves. You’re offering us a high quality product we wouldn’t otherwise be getting, and a great roster of talent to choose from.
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The Real Chillary
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Post by The Real Chillary on Jun 22, 2021 12:11:44 GMT -5
Mods, can you please change the name of this thread to: Grown men in group chat resentful towards successful toy manufacturer due to their short comings in life How about you rebutle anything that has been said like an adult, instead of name calling. For someone throwing stones, you sure can't handle critism.
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@Chair.Shot
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jun 22, 2021 12:12:03 GMT -5
Congratulations for yet another thread ruined. Please refrain from commenting in future threads/similar threads if you can’t stay on topic (that message applies to everyone).
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onlymoc21
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Post by onlymoc21 on Jun 22, 2021 13:24:32 GMT -5
I actually just seen the way Zombie conducted himself with users. It actually shocked and amazed me that he came across in such a manner, I mean he took it to a new level. They have made their income of “marks”. The whole agreement was flawed, There is only 20 members but yea he visits the board, he’s making all this money and uses it as a means to justify his behaviour and attitude. Anyway, would much rather talk about figures at this point. Let them do their thing.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jun 22, 2021 13:58:08 GMT -5
Wow…just come on and caught up on all the craziness. Wow…
Anyway, really cool to hear the positive experiences people are having with Chella. Seem like a cool & respectful company.
I’ve ordered/pre ordered all of Chella’s offerings so far and will continue to (even the guys I’m not that fussed on). Just want to support them & see them succeed.
And cool to see the other company selling to Europe now, but I’m way out on those now for several reasons - attitude, price and to be honest don’t think they all look that great (a couple do).
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Post by casanova on Jun 22, 2021 13:58:36 GMT -5
Let’s just keep it friendly folks. Shouldn’t be an issue with all being afult men who collect plastic toys. Relax.
Since ZST is apparently reading this, maybe we can get some input on the designs. For example I really wonder why you have gone with the „Rick Martel“ body as creative base for The Brawler. Is this something Rudat decides 100% on his own or are you involved in this process?
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 22, 2021 14:02:16 GMT -5
OK. One problem solved. Anything else? Or can we return to civil discourse with the circus moving on to the next town?
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jun 22, 2021 14:10:52 GMT -5
Let’s just keep it friendly folks. Shouldn’t be an issue with all being afult men who collect plastic toys. Relax. Since ZST is apparently reading this, maybe we can get some input on the designs. For example I really wonder why you have gone with the „Rick Martel“ body as creative base for The Brawler. Is this something Rudat decides 100% on his own or are you involved in this process? Really good question; be interested to know about that design process!
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