lonz
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Post by lonz on Aug 10, 2021 17:02:54 GMT -5
A set piece with lights, a massive working screen, trussing with banners and a curtain, ramp, stage and a couple of exclusive figures would be $200? 👀 👍🏽 I can get a working tablet for $50. A basic quality LCD screen isnt the expense it was 10 years ago. It doesnt have to be exactly $200 but I think it could have been in the same ballpark as this set and would have been more desirable. They would have to get a partnership with a tablet supplier for a project that might happen. Plus a titan tron that is scaled to size would be much bigger than a 10 inch tablet. There is no way this is under 200 with all the machining and tooling that would have to be done on top of it.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 10, 2021 17:15:46 GMT -5
I can get a working tablet for $50. A basic quality LCD screen isnt the expense it was 10 years ago. It doesnt have to be exactly $200 but I think it could have been in the same ballpark as this set and would have been more desirable. They would have to get a partnership with a tablet supplier for a project that might happen. Plus a titan tron that is scaled to size would be much bigger than a 10 inch tablet. There is no way this is under 200 with all the machining and tooling that would have to be done on top of it.  Plus music licensing and royalties. The cost would be colossal.
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 10, 2021 17:29:47 GMT -5
They would have to get a partnership with a tablet supplier for a project that might happen. Plus, a titan tron that is scaled to size would be much bigger than a 10 inch tablet. There is no way this is under 200 with all the machining and tooling that would have to be done on top of it.  Plus music licensing and royalties. The cost would be colossal. I don’t think many folks know what goes into making things, and that’s ok. We’ve seen perception slowly change in this thread. Once this crowdsourcing project gets fully backed and our community gets more informed, we’ll be good moving forward. We’ll be able to have nice things like other fan bases.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Aug 10, 2021 17:41:35 GMT -5
#ReleaseTheClown
Let’s have Doink in at 5K before Friday’s macho deadline and see this thing actually get made!
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Post by kutzheels on Aug 10, 2021 18:09:45 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous to cherry-pick older Mattel figs that have went up in value and automatically assume these will too. And the Amazon Hogan and SDCC Sarge were exclusives that sold out in mins. These are available to all that want. It’s horrible that a good portion of folks on here just want to buy so they can resell later. Go buy some Ultimate NWO Hogans. Your profit margin will be greater and won’t have to put out hundreds of dollars. Trying to compare this to mail-away Hasbros from the early 90s when a lot of us were kids is nuts. That’s like trying to compare the Clear Origins Skeletor Mattel Creations made last year to an original Skeletor from the 80s.
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Post by alkohal on Aug 10, 2021 18:14:43 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous to cherry-pick older Mattel figs that have went up in value and automatically assume these will too. And the Amazon Hogan and SDCC Sarge were exclusives that sold out in mins. These are available to all that want. It’s horrible that a good portion of folks on here just want to buy so they can resell later. Go buy some Ultimate NWO Hogans. Your profit margin will be greater and won’t have to put out hundreds of dollars. Trying to compare this to mail-away Hasbros from the early 90s when a lot of us were kids is nuts. That’s like trying to compare the Clear Origins Skeletor Mattel Creations made last year to an original Skeletor from the 80s. It's the same thinking of all the people who bought Star Wars figures in the 90's and early 00's thinking they'd be the same value as the figs from the 70s. 20 years later most of those figures are worth less than what they retailed for and people literally hoarded them expecting them to skyrocket.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 10, 2021 18:14:44 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous to cherry-pick older Mattel figs that have went up in value and automatically assume these will too. And the Amazon Hogan and SDCC Sarge were exclusives that sold out in mins. These are available to all that want. It’s horrible that a good portion of folks on here just want to buy so they can resell later. Go buy some Ultimate NWO Hogans. Your profit margin will be greater and won’t have to put out hundreds of dollars. Trying to compare this to mail-away Hasbros from the early 90s when a lot of us were kids is nuts. That’s like trying to compare the Clear Origins Skeletor Mattel Creations made last year to an original Skeletor from the 80s. Literally almost every single Mattel wwe figure appreciates in value the second it’s no longer at retailers stores. And without question, a macho man ultimate that is limited to just a few thousand is going to be worth far more than a Hogan that hit mass retail. Whether it’s available now to all or not is irrelevant. As soon as it’s no longer available it’s going to skyrocket. That’s the toy market now.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 10, 2021 18:16:50 GMT -5
Ultimate HBK was available to everyone and look at it now. I think at the very least in a year or two Macho would be going for a few hundred himself.
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Post by Warriah' on Aug 10, 2021 18:19:27 GMT -5
Ultimate HBK was available to everyone and look at it now. I think at the very least in a year or two Macho would be going for a few hundred himself. At the moment that Mania 12 Warrior is less than 30 on RSC. In a year you won’t find it under $150.
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Post by alkohal on Aug 10, 2021 18:28:42 GMT -5
Ultimate HBK was available to everyone and look at it now. I think at the very least in a year or two Macho would be going for a few hundred himself. People seem to forget that Ultimate HBK and Brock hit during the peak of covid lock-downs and most target stores never got them which did make them harder to get if you didn't catch em online, I also believe they were produced in a lesser production numbers to avoid shelf warming that was seen with Ultimate Balor and Nakamura, i think Amazons Rock exclusive also had a very low production run.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2021 18:28:49 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous to cherry-pick older Mattel figs that have went up in value and automatically assume these will too. And the Amazon Hogan and SDCC Sarge were exclusives that sold out in mins. These are available to all that want. It’s horrible that a good portion of folks on here just want to buy so they can resell later. Go buy some Ultimate NWO Hogans. Your profit margin will be greater and won’t have to put out hundreds of dollars. Trying to compare this to mail-away Hasbros from the early 90s when a lot of us were kids is nuts. That’s like trying to compare the Clear Origins Skeletor Mattel Creations made last year to an original Skeletor from the 80s. Lol I hope this gets funded simply to see how badly your comment ages. I love you.
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 10, 2021 18:32:14 GMT -5
Ultimate HBK was available to everyone and look at it now. I think at the very least in a year or two Macho would be going for a few hundred himself. People seem to forget that Ultimate HBK and Brock hit during the peak of covid lock-downs and most target stores never got them which did make them harder to get if you didn't catch em online, I also believe they were produced in a lesser production numbers to avoid shelf warming that was seen with Ultimate Balor and Nakamura, i think Amazons Rock exclusive also had a very low production run. Both were available for months. Online only. This set is available in a month timeline. Online only. Most people backing will want Macho for themselves. Less likely there will be many on second hand market.
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 10, 2021 18:36:32 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous to cherry-pick older Mattel figs that have went up in value and automatically assume these will too. And the Amazon Hogan and SDCC Sarge were exclusives that sold out in mins. These are available to all that want. It’s horrible that a good portion of folks on here just want to buy so they can resell later. Go buy some Ultimate NWO Hogans. Your profit margin will be greater and won’t have to put out hundreds of dollars. Trying to compare this to mail-away Hasbros from the early 90s when a lot of us were kids is nuts. That’s like trying to compare the Clear Origins Skeletor Mattel Creations made last year to an original Skeletor from the 80s. Lol I hope this gets funded simply to see how badly your comment ages. I love you. It's aged horribly in the 25 mins since they posted. kutzheels Let the folks that backed the project and plan to sell worry about potential profit margins. If you're not supportive of their plans, there are other threads on the forum.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Aug 10, 2021 18:39:47 GMT -5
Is it possible to give the potential resale value of these things in a year a rest? I think it’s been argued to death. If you’re buying to flip some or all of it, that’s fine. You’re not going to convince someone else who either doesn’t feel like these will appreciate or wanna go through the hassle of trying to get rid of them to do the same. And those who don’t think these will be worth much more aren’t going to sway the opinions of those that think these will quadruple in value.
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Post by stc13 on Aug 10, 2021 18:47:17 GMT -5
I honestly believe a scale titantron (with no ring) and a couple exclusive figures would have done significantly better at a $200 price point. A set piece with lights, a massive working screen, trussing with banners and a curtain, ramp, stage and a couple of exclusive figures would be $200? 👀 👍🏽 Yeah, that's easily a $4-600 item. It's been really interesting seeing the different perceptions of "value.". The long and short of it is that I don't think collectors are willing/able to spend what these items need to be priced at for Mattel to make money.
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alkohal
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Post by alkohal on Aug 10, 2021 18:59:44 GMT -5
A set piece with lights, a massive working screen, trussing with banners and a curtain, ramp, stage and a couple of exclusive figures would be $200? 👀 👍🏽 Yeah, that's easily a $4-600 item. It's been really interesting seeing the different perceptions of "value.". The long and short of it is that I don't think collectors are willing/able to spend what these items need to be priced at for Mattel to make money. Could be true, I did spend nearly $500 on the Haslab 3 foot Galactus tho. So i guess if you make something people can't say no too then they'll find a way to justify it, and that seems to be the problem here. Theres not much about this project that has an irresistible factor to this group of collectors.
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Post by koreanthunder86 on Aug 10, 2021 19:04:40 GMT -5
While looking at our numbers and how much we're away from 5,000 which is 2,567 more backers needed, compared to Haslab Galactus and their goal it's only 2,663 more backers needed but they've been climbing faster. It's amazing and I get different interests but that people are willing to spend almost 400 dollars for a 32 inch figure. So 250 dollars sounds not so bad and if they can do it. Hopefully we can as well.
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Post by alkohal on Aug 10, 2021 19:16:25 GMT -5
While looking at our numbers and how much we're away from 5,000 which is 2,570 more backers needed, compared to Haslab Galactus and their goal it's only 2,665 more backers needed but they've been climbing faster. It's amazing and I get different interests but that people are willing to spend almost 400 dollars for a 32 inch figure. So 250 dollars sounds not so bad and if they can do it. Hopefully we can as well. I think it's just a philosophical difference between how Mattel is using creations and how Hasbro is using Haslab. Haslab thus far has been pushing items that are essentially fan community dream items, though they are niche they've been items that have been repeatedly requested (exception being the razor crest, that was just about popularity in the moment). Mattel on the other hand has kinda taken a different position on it where instead of looking for an item that was heavily requested and never be able to be made otherwise, they tried to create an item and then gauge interest after the fact. Hate to say it but a new generation ring isn't going to rank high as a dream item amongst even the most hardcore collectors.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Aug 10, 2021 19:18:23 GMT -5
While looking at our numbers and how much we're away from 5,000 which is 2,570 more backers needed, compared to Haslab Galactus and their goal it's only 2,665 more backers needed but they've been climbing faster. It's amazing and I get different interests but that people are willing to spend almost 400 dollars for a 32 inch figure. So 250 dollars sounds not so bad and if they can do it. Hopefully we can as well. Haslab also has been established longer and has had a few other projects already under their belt to get their fans accustomed to the process. Jabba’s barge and Unicron I think barely got funded. I don’t think it was until Sentinel is when these projects started going really smoothly.
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Post by #Heel on Aug 10, 2021 19:20:05 GMT -5
How many influencers are there? I can only think of MyDamnToys, and the Major Bros. I think it says less about the impact of "influencers" and more about the size and relative affluence of the wrestling figure community.  I haven't totally given up hope, but I think this project illustrates some very clear differences between WWE and Star Wars/Marvel collectors. That’s what I mean this community is way too small that even “influencers” aren’t really influencing a thing. MDT doesn’t really have 240,000 legitimate followers. If he did his videos would get more than 5-10k and he would have a YouTube plague.
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