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Post by ddubs on Aug 5, 2021 5:31:14 GMT -5
Couple of takeaways from this Dynamite for me:
- Jericho vs Juventud slightly underwhelmed for me, I don't know what I expected but I'd hoped Juventud would've been slightly sharper than he was. From a booking and story perspective I'm all in but the match wasn't it for me
- JR calling MJF a 'Monster among Men' - they are definitely playing up the free agent links to get online traction and although I think most of us would rather not see Braun in AEW it keeps eyes and minds on the product whilst there are rumours
- Miro is still great to watch and he's organically become one of the best things in AEW and he made Shotty look good in a fairly convincing loss
- Elite vs Hangman continuing is a great story
- Christian is a bit lost in the shuffle for me, I think following his match vs Omega (I don't want a long feud) I'd move him into a mid card programme with a young/up and coming wrestler like a Wardlow/Pillman or give him MJF so that he can get his momentum back after a presumed loss to Jericho
- I like how AEW are presenting Black and I didn't hate the faux retirement angle. Cody now to take some time away and to come back slightly re-packed would be a good look as he still has a good few years left at the level he is at. The timeline won't align for this but I wouldn't be against Black winning the AEW title and Cody returning having to battle getting revenge vs breaking his promise never to compete for the title again
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 6:34:42 GMT -5
C’mon dude let’s not get into a kool aid discussion. It’s so lame. If anything these threads need a lot less of that vs crap that you so like to bring up all the time. It’s wrestling. The tribalism is so freaking lame. The more I think about this the more torn I am... A) anytime I look at a raw/SD thread is almost constant negativity from the wwe fans. Say what you want about aew superfans but at least we enjoy what we watch. It makes me not want to ever try a raw or SD because all I see is constant negativity like I'm not supposed to enjoy it but also somehow cling to it. If I see something on aew I like but others don't (*cough* Abaddon *cough*. Which is really funny considering I hated the undertaker and I hate basically all zombie things 😂. Go figure) I know I can like it without feeling judged. I can't say the same on the WWE boards here for things I've liked in that promotion. B) I'm Canadian, so I'm using hockey. I'm a Canucks fan. I know Leafs fans and Habs fans, and we all beak each other ruthlessly. This is a little different, but is it really? We're all just cheering for our favorite sports teams because we like them. Likewise we're supporting our favorite promotions because we like them. I suppose we could say this is more like NFL vs CFL vs xfl (who should probably pair up with cfl tbh) but the argument remains the same. Yeah there are people who take it to irrational extremes, but that happens everywhere, it's not a wrestling problem. Vince’s kool aid is more poisonous than the one Jim Jones made the Guyanese people drink😀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 7:04:53 GMT -5
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2021 7:11:38 GMT -5
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Post by vampiroporvida on Aug 5, 2021 8:09:03 GMT -5
That ending was amazing to me. Wish Black would have some different gear, as those kickboxing shorts were odd to me, but the convincing beatdown and cool retirement story got me hype. Jericho and Juvi was a huge letdown to me....and I didn't even get a Juicy promo!?! For Juvi's best mic work, check his XPW stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 8:17:17 GMT -5
Everything about Black is awesome. Absolutely loved the entrance and him running through Cody in a similar way to what Brodie did
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Aug 5, 2021 8:27:07 GMT -5
Entertaining episode as always.
What puzzles me when it comes to Jericho is why is he so damn out of shape!? I know when he went to Japan, he wanted that Stan Hanson look. If the point of the match was to highlight that Jericho can’t hang with cruiser-weights anymore, I think that would have been highlighted on commentary. That would have been a pretty creative narrative actually but it wasn’t really hammered home on the mics, so idk if that was the intention.
I can’t say it wasn’t still an entertaining match though. Definitely an attraction. If you tell me Judi is going to wrestle Jericho in 2021 in a top rope finish only match, with a 300+ pound Jericho, I’ll tune in 10/10 times. A Very fascinating thought lol
The Cody retirement stuff was too soon. Guys wrestle until they can’t walk, losing a match and being like, welp, that’s a career…I think there’s a way to do that where he can lose a string of matches, have the crowd turn on him, have him admit that he can’t even challenge for the world title because of MJF, so what’s the point… and have him “retire” for the betterment of the company.
They’re keeping it interesting though so I give them that
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 5, 2021 8:56:26 GMT -5
I’ve been seeing a lot of people crapping on Christian being named the #1 contender to Omega on other sites and forums and honestly, IDK why. Christian is still a great performer and can help elevate anyone on the roster.
Clearly when they signed Christian, Punk and Bryan weren’t in the fold. Not that Christian was ever going to win the title, but it’s been made clear from his debut that he’d be used in top programs while still elevating others. From his debut he’s always been teased as a future challenger to the world title and that’s where we are at. Did AEW give him the best opponents to get to 7-0, probably not but his status stays consistent with their rankings system.
And going back to the Punk and Bryan stuff, neither were likely guaranteed to be joining the company a few months ago when the Hangman/Omega feud started up again. Likely they originally planned for Hangman/Omega to happen at All Out, but with Punk and Bryan coming in, that overshadows all other stories at the moment (especially with the show being in Chicago. So I don’t see a problem with pushing the Omega/Hangman match to Full Gear in November (as long as it still happens). This way Hangman isn’t overshadowed during his title win (supposed title win).
If we get Omega/Christian at All Out, it’ll be guaranteed to be a great match. Who cares if we know Omega will win…Christian has been in this spot plenty of times in his career and still put on barn-burners. And whenever we get Omega/Hangman, the pop Hangman gets when he kicks out of Kenny’s finisher will blow the roof off the stadium.
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Post by K5 on Aug 5, 2021 9:27:07 GMT -5
Entertaining episode as always. What puzzles me when it comes to Jericho is why is he so damn out of shape!? I know when he went to Japan, he wanted that Stan Hanson look. If the point of the match was to highlight that Jericho can’t hang with cruiser-weights anymore, I think that would have been highlighted on commentary. That would have been a pretty creative narrative actually but it wasn’t really hammered home on the mics, so idk if that was the intention. totally a guess on my part, but I’d say Jericho is trying to have his cake and eat it too in that his body is older and if he’s going to be in shape he has to negate the boozing and eating whatever he chooses. but I think he’s living vicariously through the young guys around him and doesn’t want the party to stop. once again, that’s just a guess.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2021 9:47:41 GMT -5
Jericho being heavier makes him more endearing to be honest. Now that he’s a babyface, it really makes me wonder how much longer he can hang. The fact that he has to get craftier and craftier to stay afloat is interesting to me. Bloated rock star Jericho is fine by me.
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Post by Bandalero on Aug 5, 2021 9:55:46 GMT -5
Vince’s kool aid is more poisonous than the one Jim Jones made the Guyanese people drink😀 Hey I resemble that remark!
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 5, 2021 11:57:36 GMT -5
I thought it was a great show again, they always leave me wanting more.
Jericho/Juvi was fun, even though Juvi looked a little rusty. Top rope Judas Effect should be added to the repertoire for use in big matches. War flow seems to be a perfect choice for the 4th trial. He’s taken a lot of losses though, and he’s about to take another.
Chavo finally has a role that I think I can live with. He’s a great interpreter character for Andrade. I hope he never wrestles. Penta’s interpreter looks like he’s trying to look 12, but he’s funny.
That trios match was a lot of fun. The Sting spot was the highlight of the match, and you could see the glee in Mox (even though he tried to hide it) when he and Eddie were in there with Sting.
Nice to see Britt return to her heelish ways. She was in danger of being turned by the crowd. That said, I don’t know if Red Velvet is a strong enough face to get the crowd to boo her. Red Velvet is super hot and cuts a halfway decent promo compared to most of the other ladies though, so I’ll be happy with this feud.
Looks like Hangman is going home to be with his wife and baby for awhile. Good way to send him out, but damn Kenny and the Bucks are annoying heels…not in a good way. Why is Gallows wearing a Goldust robe? It doesn’t really suit him the way that the Superstar Graham look did.
Best Friends are just a bonified stable now as well? I miss Trent?. Kristen Statlander kind of fits, but Layla Hirsch does not. Bunny is weirdly hot, but also kind of odd looking. I’m still into it.
Where the hell is the Butcher? The Blade is winning me over as a lower mid-card heel, but I always preferred the Butcher. I think I heard he had a hand injury, which is worse for him as a guitar player in a band (take time with a wounded hand, cuz it likes to heal), but I wish he was at least on. As a Buffalonian it’s good to see some other Buffalo boys making good.
Miro is one of the best that they have. They sure turned things around after the video game buddy thing which was almost as bad as Rusev/Lashley/Lana. I don’t know why, but I love his nickname the Redeemer, and Gods Favorite Champion.
My God, I don’t think the Black/Cody match could’ve gone any better. That was exactly what I wanted. After the match I thought they were selling Cody’s Brain being scrambled by the Black Mass, but he surprised me with the retirement tease. He almost got me too, probably because I did a J earlier in the night (helps me enjoy the show…does the opposite for Raw). It’ll be nice to not see Cody for awhile. I haven’t had the pleasure of being in attendance yet (west coast), but it looked to me that Cody is taking time off at the perfect moment. He’s getting some boos, and he unfairly has the reputation of being the Cena, but he’s great to his opponents, but doesn’t just lose to everyone. Beating Cody means something, as it should. I know it was a work, but seeing it play out made me realize just how important he is, and how much I’d really not like to see him retire. I’ll still be happy to have him away for a bit, being a dad, and whatever else he wants to do.
I haven’t been this invested in a wrestling show since probably 2002. I don’t like everything that they do, but I love the vast majority. CUNW!
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Aug 5, 2021 12:48:43 GMT -5
Any chance Wardlow beats Jericho clean? Take away something MJF desires, to end Jericho himself, and add to the eventual split and War Dog face run?
Another thought: if Wardlow is no longer MJF's muscle, maybe there is a place for Brawny Boi after all...
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 5, 2021 14:23:16 GMT -5
Any chance Wardlow beats Jericho clean? Take away something MJF desires, to end Jericho himself, and add to the eventual split and War Dog face run? Another thought: if Wardlow is no longer MJF's muscle, maybe there is a place for Brawny Boi after all... I dunno if I'm bold enough to predict a Wardlow win but it's definitely something I've thought about. I'm all for going against the grain and trying new things in wrestling as opposed to always taking the obvious route, and if they're looking to extend the IC vs. Pinnacle feud this is a solid way to do it. Plus as Bill Maxwell mentioned Wardlow is depicted as being some huge force but he's yet to really have a "big" or signature win against anyone significant. This can remedy that.
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Post by @brit_figs on Aug 5, 2021 16:03:37 GMT -5
Just caught up, good show although not as good as the last few weeks imo!
Enjoyed the 6 man, Sting & Moxley were jokes.
Excited to see Black move forwards!
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Post by K5 on Aug 5, 2021 17:02:45 GMT -5
I really thought we might see Cody get pipebombed at the end of last night’s episode, Punk mocking him for his placating and white meat persona, would’ve been something to see.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Aug 5, 2021 18:09:42 GMT -5
Black looked great last night but those shorts not so much. I know its not at the top of a lot of peoples list of challengers to Black and maybe already happened somewhere else but I really want to see Black/Jungle Boy but not yet don't want to see either guy take the loss right now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 21:01:53 GMT -5
Dark order Twitter is awesome right now.
Also Garcia vs. Darby one on one next Wednesday.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 5, 2021 21:47:00 GMT -5
Dark order Twitter is awesome right now. Also Garcia vs. Darby one on one next Wednesday. I’ll pop HARD if Garcia becomes All Elite
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2021 21:56:17 GMT -5
I’m so damn thankful for this company giving me back my excitement for a wrestling show that I’m still thinking about it 24 hours later and waiting for the next episode
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