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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 18, 2021 12:00:14 GMT -5
I was reading an article in one of the old "The Wrestler" Apter magazines today about Beefcake's accident in the summer of 1990. It's pretty safe to say that Beefcake was going to win the IC Title off Mr. Perfect. Which would be shocking in a way too since Perfect lost to Beefcake at Wrestlemania VI.
So let's say Beefcake has the match at SummerSlam and wins the IC Title.
What happens to his career after that??
Does he lose the belt back to Mr. Perfect like the Tornado did, and if so... where does Beefcake go next??
Who would Beefcake feud with??
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Post by The Brain on Sept 18, 2021 12:11:17 GMT -5
Yeah I gotta think he wouldve lost it by years end. I can see the promos now of him bragging during his reign how Perfect never beat em.
He was over like rover still that year so I can see him holding out for a good few more years. Maybe even have a reunion with Valentine in 91 as a babyface version of the Dream Team. Hell at Mania VII have them face Quake/Bravo.
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Post by nibs92 on Sept 18, 2021 12:40:52 GMT -5
The Iraqi Barber v Hogan WM7!
Unpopular opinion but I think the gimmick was done by then and he lacked the talent and charisma for any major push. There may have been some mileage in an IC run, a belt v hair match against Martel at WM7, for example. But I do feel that an upper mid Beefcake blocks the way for Bret to develop the way he did.
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 18, 2021 13:33:13 GMT -5
Yeah I gotta think he wouldve lost it by years end. I can see the promos now of him bragging during his reign how Perfect never beat em. He was over like rover still that year so I can see him holding out for a good few more years. Maybe even have a reunion with Valentine in 91 as a babyface version of the Dream Team. Hell at Mania VII have them face Quake/Bravo.That is an interesting take and would have been fun to see. As for Beefcake, I'm not sure he was going to win the IC title at Summer Slam 90, it has been rumored but I don't remember anyone with first hand knowledge saying it was definitely going to happen. I believe the reason he won at WM6 was to make it look like he could beat Perfect again, this time for the title at Summer Slam, but I think Perfect hangs on. There has been rumor that to get Kerry to sign they promised him the belt which is probably the only reason he won. However, if Brutus was going to win the title at Summer Slam, he may not have dropped the belt back to Perfect so soon. The reason Kerry did was because he was missing house shows and was becoming unreliable. Brutus didn't have those issues so most likely he would have held onto the title until a big PPV to drop it back to Perfect, the most likely spot to me would have been at the 1991 Royal Rumble. Hard to say where Brutus goes from here, a feud with the Model would have been something, and a Hair vs Hair match would have been ideal. Though, by this time, the Model was in a feud with Jake until WM7, then he takes time off from wrestling after that, so that doesn't seem likely. I do like the The Brain's idea of reforming the Dream Team, this time as babyfaces to feud against Bravo/Quake and then later the Natural Disasters. The WWF was needing new tag teams at this time, especially babyface tag teams, they were down to three after WM7 when the Hart Foundation disbanded. In 1992, had the reformed Dream Team hung around, I could see them feuding with Money Inc., maybe the Nasty Boy never turn face. If so, they could have it where Valentine leaves the team/company (since he was not happy with the WWF at this time and worked with WCW and other independent promotions), they could have done a similar angle with Money Inc and Brutus, but instead of trying to permanently injure his already damaged face, DiBiase and IRS could have just double-teamed Beefcake trying to injure him then, out comes Hulk Hogan for the save, which could set up their WM9 match. After that, I'm not sure what could happen with Brutus, Vince was really going with the younger talent in 1993 and I don't see a place for Beefcake during this time. He probably ends up leaving with Hulk anyway. |
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 18, 2021 13:35:45 GMT -5
The Iraqi Barber v Hogan WM7! Unpopular opinion but I think the gimmick was done by then and he lacked the talent and charisma for any major push. There may have been some mileage in an IC run, a belt v hair match against Martel at WM7, for example. But I do feel that an upper mid Beefcake blocks the way for Bret to develop the way he did. The Iraqi Barber, that's funny. But, that probably would have made more sense than Sheik Tugboat. At least with the Barber, you have a few years long worth of friendship they could work with to tell the story, and him turning on Hogan would have been bigger because of it. But, either way, like Bruce Prichard said, thank god for Sarge. |
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Post by nibs92 on Sept 18, 2021 15:26:47 GMT -5
The Iraqi Barber v Hogan WM7! Unpopular opinion but I think the gimmick was done by then and he lacked the talent and charisma for any major push. There may have been some mileage in an IC run, a belt v hair match against Martel at WM7, for example. But I do feel that an upper mid Beefcake blocks the way for Bret to develop the way he did. The Iraqi Barber, that's funny. But, that probably would have made more sense than Sheik Tugboat. At least with the Barber, you have a few years long worth of friendship they could work with to tell the story, and him turning on Hogan would have been bigger because of it. But, either way, like Bruce Prichard said, thank god for Sarge. I was being tongue in cheek but you’re right it would have made more sense.I wonder if they would have considered a turn on Hogan if he’d stayed healthy? I’m sure Jesse/Heenan would have had a field day mocking Hogan’s lack of hair in such a feud. |
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Post by JokerFC on Sept 18, 2021 17:44:16 GMT -5
KVEs run as IC champ was cut short by Vince because the poor guy was an unmitigated disaster. He was scheduled to hold it until RR91 I believe...so that was likely when Beefer would have held it until too.
The feud itself would have been centred around Brutus ending Hennigs streak at WM6. That's how he was gonna get the shot.
People severely underestimate how over BB was...the fans loved the gimmick & he would have been well received as IC champ.
I see him departing with Hogan too in 94 either way but he likely would have had some more top line feuds.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 18, 2021 17:52:42 GMT -5
How would they do a Jimmy Hart face turn though?
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 18, 2021 21:18:34 GMT -5
How would they do a Jimmy Hart face turn though? Yeah, that one would be interesting. Personally, he never really fit as Hogan's manager, so the turn wouldn't have needed to happen. I think he could have stayed the manager of Money Inc. until their run in mid 1993. Then when they break up, that could be the way to move on from Jimmy Hart, who would leave at that time too. |
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Post by dixol on Sept 18, 2021 21:19:39 GMT -5
Beefcake was scheduled to win the IC @ SSlam 90. He would have continued working with Perfect to do all the rematches. He would not work with Martel as they already had a feud leading up to Mania 6. Chances are he continues Von Erich’s path by working against Dibiase up to Mania 7. He probably has to leave after SSlam 91 due to the steroid scandal so he drops the belt to Mountie at that PPV. Maybe IRS. If he comes back later that year he’s probably working against Skinner. Then leaves with Hulk after Mania 8.
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 18, 2021 21:19:59 GMT -5
The Iraqi Barber, that's funny. But, that probably would have made more sense than Sheik Tugboat. At least with the Barber, you have a few years long worth of friendship they could work with to tell the story, and him turning on Hogan would have been bigger because of it. But, either way, like Bruce Prichard said, thank god for Sarge. I was being tongue in cheek but you’re right it would have made more sense. I wonder if they would have considered a turn on Hogan if he’d stayed healthy? I’m sure Jesse/Heenan would have had a field day mocking Hogan’s lack of hair in such a feud. I'm sure they would have but, I thought I heard that know one could mention Hogan's baldness on TV. |
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Post by LA Times on Sept 18, 2021 21:29:37 GMT -5
How would they do a Jimmy Hart face turn though? Yeah, that one would be interesting. Personally, he never really fit as Hogan's manager, so the turn wouldn't have needed to happen. I think he could have stayed the manager of Money Inc. until their run in mid 1993. Then when they break up, that could be the way to move on from Jimmy Hart, who would leave at that time too. I associate him more with being Hulk Hogan's manager than the heels he managed in the Hulkamania Era (Hart Foundation, Dino Bravo, Earthquake, Rhythm & Blues, Nasty Boys, etc). |
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Post by PJ on Sept 19, 2021 3:43:26 GMT -5
Yeah, that one would be interesting. Personally, he never really fit as Hogan's manager, so the turn wouldn't have needed to happen. I think he could have stayed the manager of Money Inc. until their run in mid 1993. Then when they break up, that could be the way to move on from Jimmy Hart, who would leave at that time too. I associate him more with being Hulk Hogan's manager than the heels he managed in the Hulkamania Era (Hart Foundation, Dino Bravo, Earthquake, Rhythm & Blues, Nasty Boys, etc). Really?!? I am the exact opposite. To me I associate him more being the heels manager. It just seemed like a more natural fit especially with the megaphone. |
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Post by LA Times on Sept 19, 2021 5:37:00 GMT -5
I associate him more with being Hulk Hogan's manager than the heels he managed in the Hulkamania Era (Hart Foundation, Dino Bravo, Earthquake, Rhythm & Blues, Nasty Boys, etc). Really?!? I am the exact opposite. To me I associate him more being the heels manager. It just seemed like a more natural fit especially with the megaphone. I think because he's always hanging out with hulk hogan in real life. |
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Post by PJ on Sept 19, 2021 6:02:56 GMT -5
Really?!? I am the exact opposite. To me I associate him more being the heels manager. It just seemed like a more natural fit especially with the megaphone. I think because he's always hanging out with hulk hogan in real life. Yes, I can see that in “real world” because of that and Jimmy Hart seems to be a genuine nice guy. But still I think of him as the character and to me the character was always more believable as a heel. |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Sept 19, 2021 6:16:23 GMT -5
I always thought of jimmy as a heel. Even when he was with hulk I never trusted him.
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Post by The Brain on Sept 19, 2021 10:43:30 GMT -5
It always felt weird to me to see em as face with Hogan considering just a few years prior he was egging on Quake to end Hulkamanaia on the BL Show.
He definitely was better as a heel
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Post by The Brain on Sept 19, 2021 12:44:49 GMT -5
Speaking of a Dream Team reunion, we technically had one when ''the man with no face'' saved the Hammer!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 18:15:12 GMT -5
Speaking of a Dream Team reunion, we technically had one when ''the man with no face'' saved the Hammer! That coulda been the start for the fued with dream team/quake&bravo. jimmy not leting it go and wanting find out who this maksed guy is and eventually attacking him and beating him down, then hammer makes the save. then he unmasks on brother love show and they reunite. |
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