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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 8, 2021 9:02:43 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused by AEW's roster. Half are AEW originals. Half are ex WWE guys. Now with Hangman Page returning he could be the Roman Reigns of AEW. Issue is what does this mean for Bryan/Punk. Are AEW using ex WWE guys as enhancement for their talent. Or are they getting the big pushes? TNA neglected younger talent like Joe and Styles then over pushed ex WWE guys. Although it seems a positive for AEW at the moment Paul Wight getting TV time is worrying. No more BS. I wish that was true.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 9:28:24 GMT -5
You can have more than one top act..
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 8, 2021 9:45:03 GMT -5
Having guys like Bryan, Christian, Punk, Miro, Andrade, in AEW is good for AEW in the long run. If a wrestling fan isn't sure of AEW, or even still to this day unaware of AEW, they see these guys who were on WWE TV and say, "Wow! What's he doing here?? I better watch this!"
So Bryan or Punk wrestling in the middle of the card is gonna still be as big of deal as AEW homegrown talent like Page vs. Omega wrestling in the main event for the AEW World Title.
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Post by ICW on Oct 8, 2021 10:14:24 GMT -5
WWE has broken brains, man.
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Post by K5 on Oct 8, 2021 11:54:09 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused by AEW's roster. Half are AEW originals. Half are ex WWE guys. Now with Hangman Page returning he could be the Roman Reigns of AEW. Issue is what does this mean for Bryan/Punk. Are AEW using ex WWE guys as enhancement for their talent. Or are they getting the big pushes? TNA neglected younger talent like Joe and Styles then over pushed ex WWE guys. Although it seems a positive for AEW at the moment Paul Wight getting TV time is worrying. No more BS. I wish that was true. terrible, terrible take. aew has nothing in common with a) how Roman reigns is being used and b) how tna used talent. Iβm almost not minding these silly perspectives that Page is gonna be neglected due to Punk and Bryan, will just make his inevitable run with the title and position as top baby face that sweeter though
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Post by βππ£π ππ ππππ on Oct 8, 2021 12:28:05 GMT -5
There is a huge, huge difference between how fans perceive the use of TV time and how the actual network does.
AEW needed to attract brands and networks to be able to get deals and create an income for the company. The number one way that they can do this is by having attractions. The hard truth is that you and I and thousands of others think that AEW is good enough just having Hangman Page, PAC, Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, and other "home grown talent." These names are not big enough on their own to go into a meeting cold with TV execs. These guys are in charge of creating deals that work for both parties. They need a return on investment. Now imagine how different a television ad comes off to a casual fan or a lasped fan or wrestling when they see CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Big Show, Sting, etc. flash across their screen. They are using star power to keep the corporate interests of the company afloat. The same thing to do with TNA -- fans didn't really want to see Hulk Hogan for 30 minutes at the beginning of ever IMPACT, but there's more interests to serve than just the die hard fan.
And if you ask me, this has not been a problem one bit. To say Big Show is getting more air time than homegrown talent is simply wrong. Paul Wight is barely featured on the cable broadcasts and if anything, he's only featured heavily when he is acting as an analyst or an interviewer. I'm pretty sure any segment he had with the QT Marshall angle took less than 5 minutes of actual aire time. Also, is he anything like how he was presented in the WWE? Was he in a prominent backstage role on WWE television? Absolutely not. It is a totally new represenation of Paul Wight to the wrestling audience. He's not out there doing his same old stuff. The same can be said for truly any ex-WWE talent in AEW. Everyone has been so innovative and successful in removing themselves from their WWE personas. Miro, Mox, Punk, Danielson, Wight, Mark Henry...there are a ton of guys that should be looked at CURRENT WRESTLING STARS before they are looked at EX-WWE STARS.
There was only one place to work for 20 years. Having ex-WWE talent means nothing. Where else were they supposed to go? Were they not supposed to make a living for the majority of their career waiting out for some new promotion so they didn't have a "stink on them"?
I absolutely DO NOT understand this take from any fan. These guys are industry leaders and have a wealth of knowledge and edge that they bring to a new wrestling company. I can't imagine how you look at this product and see WWE stars in any way. These are top wrestling talents who perfected their craft, got a big contract, and now they're moving on. This OP is such an ice cold perspective and I truly wonder how you even approach a conversation about the AEW roster with these points.
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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 8, 2021 17:34:59 GMT -5
I'm only saying the truth. First Ambrose then Swagger. Every W WE talent now that isn't in world title picture threatens to leave to AEW. Gargano. Bryan wtf was his excuse. Guy was in main event of Mania then wants his 2010 Indy glory again. AEW has cracked and im the first to say it dawg.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 8, 2021 18:14:10 GMT -5
Dawg, I think youβre the one thatβs cracked.
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Post by JOEJOEJOEJOE on Oct 8, 2021 18:40:49 GMT -5
Thatβs a chit take mate. You clearly donβt watch enough AEW to have a meaningful opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2021 18:44:32 GMT -5
Lmao what even is this thread.
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Post by LK3 on Oct 8, 2021 19:10:24 GMT -5
Iβm lost homie
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 9, 2021 9:17:03 GMT -5
I'll go on here as someone who actually watches the product. Though my opinion is that AEW has way too many guys, I can't say that they haven't balanced out who gets the push at what moment, or that half the roster has nothing to do. Right now they got tons of people that I can see be AEW World Champ. One thing that I don't like when it comes to storylines is I feel a lot of feuds end too quick. Example with CM Punk, sorta feuds with Darby for a few weeks, he beats Darby, done. He feuds with Team Taz for a couple weeks, Punk beats Hobbs, done. Their product isn't perfect, no product will be, but I can say they've improved.
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Oct 9, 2021 9:29:01 GMT -5
I'm fine with the 50/50, 60/40, or maybe one day 70/30 WWE/AEW Star split.
As long as they can manage to cycle them all around and give them something meaningful, and good to watch, i'm here for it. Something good & meaningful doesn't always mean World, or TNT champ. A nice feud with good storytelling & result will be fine. Even something like one day Bryan vs Punk for the BITW claim.
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Post by Markw on Oct 10, 2021 9:36:46 GMT -5
Every W WE talent now that isn't in world title picture threatens to leave to AEW. Gargano. Bryan wtf was his excuse. Guy was in main event of Mania then wants his 2010 Indy glory again. I mean this has an awful lot more to do with how WWE treats its employees than anything AEW is doing. Previously there was no major alternative and people had to put up with whatever Vince McMahon wanted, and that was usually whatever made him more profit (be it healthcare, travel, safety). On top of that the WWE has been continuously chipping away at the creative freedom of talent. It's not surprising that now there is an alternative that can actually pay them close to what WWE can, people are wanting to leave. Most who leave the WWE know they aren't automatically going to be in the AEW main event picture either, but their lives will be an awful lot easier.
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Post by alanpartridge on Oct 14, 2021 8:23:55 GMT -5
Dawg, I think youβre the one thatβs cracked.
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 15, 2021 10:31:56 GMT -5
Basically OP is trying to say is AEW has a lot of former WWE talent on their roster
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Post by secondwhiteline on Oct 15, 2021 11:09:16 GMT -5
There's always going to be an aspect where AEW is a booking sim for a billionaire's wrestling nerd son (AEWR?), so they're going to be a wishlist promotion sometimes. It's a lot like WCW, where they overstock on established talent and then keep trying to thread the needle between dream matches and long-term pushes of homegrown guys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 11:24:28 GMT -5
trying to thread the needle between dream matches and long-term pushes of homegrown guys. I'm really trying to see how balancing amazing dream matches and true, sustained pushes of homegrown talent is supposed to be a negative, but that sounds pretty darn perfect to me.
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Post by K5 on Oct 15, 2021 11:44:30 GMT -5
Basically OP is trying to say is AEW has a lot of former WWE talent on their roster yes. and in no way is that any type of new idea, and is one that has continuously been decided as lacking any true validity. I wouldnβt expect any different from the trivial garbage the OP usually offers.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Oct 15, 2021 12:33:00 GMT -5
Hey at least they're not doing what TNA Did and just threw the world title on them and have them steamroll their homegrown talent
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