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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Oct 9, 2021 20:30:00 GMT -5
Joker’s thread reminded me of one of my oldest questions from the Mattel WWE line…
What’s the deal with the original Mattel Shawn Michaels head?
What era was it originally designed to represent? It was used in the first two-pack series, based on the 2008 HBK vs Jericho feud. But the hair is completely wrong for that era. It’s also got no beard paint job, but for some reason Mattel just refused to put a beard on Michaels elites for a few years.
It was also used at the start of the line on the Superstar Matchups figure with rhe DX cosplay bands. That figure was based on 2006 DX, where again, it doesn’t look right based on the hair.
And its highest-profile use at the start of the line was on the Entrance Greats WrestleMania 12 figure… where the hair and lack of beard work, and the expression does remind me a lot of the SummerSlam 96 poster, but the head looks so old for that era.
It’s just so odd to me that they tried to use it to cover so many bases when it doesn’t really fit any of them very well.
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Post by suckator on Oct 9, 2021 20:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 20:46:40 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels has been a major fail for Mattel since day one. They even re-released the Entrance Greats as an elite and used the SAME old man head! 🤦♂️
His first Ultimate was God-awful. The iconic attire is the only reason it sells for what it does. Hopefully his next one is better, but I won’t hold my breath.
The only great, hell even just good 96-98 era Shawn is WM 14. And of course, in full Mattel style, they never repurposed it again. Hell, it took what like 8 years to actually give HBK kneepads?? 🤣
I’m fully aware of the whole “greener grass other side etc” concept, but I’m totally ready and hoping for Hasbro to take over.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 8:10:14 GMT -5
One of the first figures I saw from Mattel online was the WrestleMania 12 Entrance Great HBK, so I always assumed it was supposed to be that sculpt, especially since I can’t recall HBK ever wearing his hair in a ponytail in a match except for when he was younger.
It’s just strange because the basic 2 pack with Jericho released a bit before the WM12 fig, but both were shown at the same time so it’s very possible it was made for WM12 and the battle pack was just a cheap way to get out more figs at launch.
No no, please no Hasbro guys haha, you don’t want them. They won’t make anything to scale, you think Mattel reuses pieces, ugh wait until Hasbro takes over. Mattel is making the best figures right now that we have ever gotten & we will ever get, and in great variety. I’m certain of that, it’s the best combination of the guy running the show is a fan, and Mattel makes great Barbie clothing for our wrestlers haha. I’m saying it now & i’m positive I’m right, we will ALL regret the day Hasbro takes over. Bet on it.
My complaints with Mattel are nit picks, I’d rather have a In Your House DX HBK with the wrong hair than to never have it at all. Especially when they make SO many figures with extra heads, your bound to swap one in and out sooner or later.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 10, 2021 12:43:04 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels has been a major fail for Mattel since day one. They even re-released the Entrance Greats as an elite and used the SAME old man head! 🤦♂️ His first Ultimate was God-awful. The iconic attire is the only reason it sells for what it does. Hopefully his next one is better, but I won’t hold my breath. The only great, hell even just good 96-98 era Shawn is WM 14. And of course, in full Mattel style, they never repurposed it again. Hell, it took what like 8 years to actually give HBK kneepads?? 🤣 I’m fully aware of the whole “greener grass other side etc” concept, but I’m totally ready and hoping for Hasbro to take over. I love you. Same, Hasbro been killing it with mmpr.
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Post by The Coach on Oct 10, 2021 17:21:40 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels has been a major fail for Mattel since day one. They even re-released the Entrance Greats as an elite and used the SAME old man head! 🤦♂️ His first Ultimate was God-awful. The iconic attire is the only reason it sells for what it does. Hopefully his next one is better, but I won’t hold my breath. The only great, hell even just good 96-98 era Shawn is WM 14. And of course, in full Mattel style, they never repurposed it again. Hell, it took what like 8 years to actually give HBK kneepads?? 🤣 I’m fully aware of the whole “greener grass other side etc” concept, but I’m totally ready and hoping for Hasbro to take over. I love you. I really don’t want has to taking over. Their figures have a lot of trouble even standing, despite the great detail put into them.
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Post by iamcline on Oct 10, 2021 17:24:53 GMT -5
Same, Hasbro been killing it with mmpr. My favorite toy line right now. The Tenga Warrior figure is next level value.
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Post by banditman on Oct 10, 2021 17:29:41 GMT -5
It was interesting to me how some of mattels early wwe scans were super melty looking while others looked spot in, the first basic Kane scan still looks really good.
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Post by hbkfan on Oct 10, 2021 17:30:20 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels has been a major fail for Mattel since day one. They even re-released the Entrance Greats as an elite and used the SAME old man head! 🤦♂️ His first Ultimate was God-awful. The iconic attire is the only reason it sells for what it does. Hopefully his next one is better, but I won’t hold my breath. The only great, hell even just good 96-98 era Shawn is WM 14. And of course, in full Mattel style, they never repurposed it again. Hell, it took what like 8 years to actually give HBK kneepads?? 🤣 I’m fully aware of the whole “greener grass other side etc” concept, but I’m totally ready and hoping for Hasbro to take over. I love you. I really don’t want has to taking over. Their figures have a lot of trouble even standing, despite the great detail put into them. I see nobody mentioned how Hasbro cant have the mmpr Red helmet done right....I mean the leader of the most emblematic team and you cant have it right?
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 10, 2021 17:42:57 GMT -5
It blows my mind that there is literally 1 HBK head that actually looks like him as well as only 1 Bret Hart head that actually looked like him
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 17:53:17 GMT -5
I really don’t want has to taking over. Their figures have a lot of trouble even standing, despite the great detail put into them. I see nobody mentioned how Hasbro cant have the mmpr Red helmet done right....I mean the leader of the most emblematic team and you cant have it right? Dude, anybody that collects Hasbro figures should know they would be NO better. Mattel is leaps and bounds ahead of the product Hasbro is putting out, that is so clear to anybody that buys this stuff haha. Like you said, Red Rangers helmet is horrible. Bandai made Red Rangers for 20 years, none have a head that wrong, where was the confusion? Mattel has been a good fit because they do barbies, all the entrance gear and gear details are taken for granted. Everybody has forgotten the “vest days” of Jakks? haha, if you came out with any entrance gear at all, you got a vest. Or the black tights with 2 or 3 decals to make it resemble the gear. Nowhere near the detail Mattel has put in and Hasbro would be no better. Every set of Marvel Legends has CLEAR cost cutting figures. I can’t say the same for Mattel. Plus Hasbros aren’t in scale. That will be issue #1 if they took over. It’s one thing if Nash isn’t as big as he should be, and Nash being smaller than Rey Mysterio like Jakks did.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 10, 2021 18:27:09 GMT -5
I see nobody mentioned how Hasbro cant have the mmpr Red helmet done right....I mean the leader of the most emblematic team and you cant have it right? Dude, anybody that collects Hasbro figures should know they would be NO better. Mattel is leaps and bounds ahead of the product Hasbro is putting out, that is so clear to anybody that buys this stuff haha. Like you said, Red Rangers helmet is horrible. Bandai made Red Rangers for 20 years, none have a head that wrong, where was the confusion? Mattel has been a good fit because they do barbies, all the entrance gear and gear details are taken for granted. Everybody has forgotten the “vest days” of Jakks? haha, if you came out with any entrance gear at all, you got a vest. Or the black tights with 2 or 3 decals to make it resemble the gear. Nowhere near the detail Mattel has put in and Hasbro would be no better. Every set of Marvel Legends has CLEAR cost cutting figures. I can’t say the same for Mattel. Plus Hasbros aren’t in scale. That will be issue #1 if they took over. It’s one thing if Nash isn’t as big as he should be, and Nash being smaller than Rey Mysterio like Jakks did. I agree. Mattel imo has been the best manufacture of wrestling figures thus far. They’ve given us figures that have scale, unique molds and soft goods. Granted we criticize them because we know the potential Mattel has and the number of great figures they’ve made that when they fall short it seems extremely questionable. Little oversights that make your head scratch. I don’t have a lot of Hasbro figures, but I do collect the power ranger like and marvel legends. Let me tell you, almost every other figure reuses the same body type. You would think that comic figures would have their own unique jackets, body molds, color shading and texture. That’s one thing I miss about toybiz their attention to texture and paint. Also, maybe it’s just me, but a lot of Hasbro Marvel Legends feel like they’re made of really cheap plastic. I hope Mattel keeps the license for a while. I can’t see any other company outdoing what they’ve accomplished.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 18:42:05 GMT -5
Dude, anybody that collects Hasbro figures should know they would be NO better. Mattel is leaps and bounds ahead of the product Hasbro is putting out, that is so clear to anybody that buys this stuff haha. Like you said, Red Rangers helmet is horrible. Bandai made Red Rangers for 20 years, none have a head that wrong, where was the confusion? Mattel has been a good fit because they do barbies, all the entrance gear and gear details are taken for granted. Everybody has forgotten the “vest days” of Jakks? haha, if you came out with any entrance gear at all, you got a vest. Or the black tights with 2 or 3 decals to make it resemble the gear. Nowhere near the detail Mattel has put in and Hasbro would be no better. Every set of Marvel Legends has CLEAR cost cutting figures. I can’t say the same for Mattel. Plus Hasbros aren’t in scale. That will be issue #1 if they took over. It’s one thing if Nash isn’t as big as he should be, and Nash being smaller than Rey Mysterio like Jakks did. I agree. Mattel imo has been the best manufacture of wrestling figures thus far. They’ve given us figures that have scale, unique molds and soft goods. Granted we criticize them because we know the potential Mattel has and the number of great figures they’ve made that when they fall short it seems extremely questionable. Little oversights that make your head scratch. I don’t have a lot of Hasbro figures, but I do collect the power ranger like and marvel legends. Let me tell you, almost every other figure reuses the same body type. You would think that comic figures would have their own unique jackets, body molds, color shading and texture. That’s one thing I miss about toybiz their attention to texture and paint. Also, maybe it’s just me, but a lot of Hasbro Marvel Legends feel like they’re made of really cheap plastic. I hope Mattel keeps the license for a while. I can’t see any other company outdoing what they’ve accomplished. You’re spot on about Hasbro. You take a character like Gambit, a pretty popular character…they don’t even make him his own jacket. He just has the Nick Fury coat that all Legends come with. Also…does that jacket come off? No, because lazy cheap Hasbro molds the jacket arms onto the figure itself and basically makes a vest for the body for the set of the coat. That’s going to be an entrance jacket just like how Jakks did them. When we get entrance gear from Mattel, they also have full ring attire and the jacket is removable. It’s not gonna be that way from Hasbro. You’re right though, Toybiz was my favorite as well because they made custom molds for almost every figure. They really felt special. And yea, I understand wanting them to put out quality figures…it’s just, it goes overboard haha. Kane’s elbow shouldn’t be justification to jump ship to Hasbro. Especially since if it were Hasbro, you wouldn’t have gotten the other 99% of the figure looking as good as it does. I’ll take a skin color joint, it’s really not a thing. The figure looks fantastic, he’s even got the cape….cmon, at least we can hide it haha.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 10, 2021 19:31:30 GMT -5
I agree. Mattel imo has been the best manufacture of wrestling figures thus far. They’ve given us figures that have scale, unique molds and soft goods. Granted we criticize them because we know the potential Mattel has and the number of great figures they’ve made that when they fall short it seems extremely questionable. Little oversights that make your head scratch. I don’t have a lot of Hasbro figures, but I do collect the power ranger like and marvel legends. Let me tell you, almost every other figure reuses the same body type. You would think that comic figures would have their own unique jackets, body molds, color shading and texture. That’s one thing I miss about toybiz their attention to texture and paint. Also, maybe it’s just me, but a lot of Hasbro Marvel Legends feel like they’re made of really cheap plastic. I hope Mattel keeps the license for a while. I can’t see any other company outdoing what they’ve accomplished. You’re spot on about Hasbro. You take a character like Gambit, a pretty popular character…they don’t even make him his own jacket. He just has the Nick Fury coat that all Legends come with. Also…does that jacket come off? No, because lazy cheap Hasbro molds the jacket arms onto the figure itself and basically makes a vest for the body for the set of the coat. That’s going to be an entrance jacket just like how Jakks did them. When we get entrance gear from Mattel, they also have full ring attire and the jacket is removable. It’s not gonna be that way from Hasbro. You’re right though, Toybiz was my favorite as well because they made custom molds for almost every figure. They really felt special. And yea, I understand wanting them to put out quality figures…it’s just, it goes overboard haha. Kane’s elbow shouldn’t be justification to jump ship to Hasbro. Especially since if it were Hasbro, you wouldn’t have gotten the other 99% of the figure looking as good as it does. I’ll take a skin color joint, it’s really not a thing. The figure looks fantastic, he’s even got the cape….cmon, at least we can hide it haha. We can all agree to disagree but you complaining about gambit is like most of us complaining about Kane right now. And like what was said in the other topic, Hasbro gave everyone who asked a replacement corrected head for a ranger. Mattel knowingly released Kane as is as evident from the back of the box and not a peep from anyone. It is what it is, we are all different and we all have different opinions, but for you to shut down a legitimate issue because you're ok with it doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with it. I don't have any issues with any release of mmpr from Hasbro that I purchased. (I don't collect anything else from Hasbro nor do I collect anything else from Mattel) Hell this topic is about HBKs atrocious face scans. Yet I have every damn one of them from mattel. Kane having the error that it has pisses me off as much as gambit pisses you off. That's all I can say on the matter. It's all respect man. We are all in this together that's why we are on here. Edit: just want to add, I don't want Mattel to lose the license, but I also wouldn't be mad if Hasbro took the reigns. I would like Mattel to stop being cheap and trying to cut corners on a premium line.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 20:20:06 GMT -5
You’re spot on about Hasbro. You take a character like Gambit, a pretty popular character…they don’t even make him his own jacket. He just has the Nick Fury coat that all Legends come with. Also…does that jacket come off? No, because lazy cheap Hasbro molds the jacket arms onto the figure itself and basically makes a vest for the body for the set of the coat. That’s going to be an entrance jacket just like how Jakks did them. When we get entrance gear from Mattel, they also have full ring attire and the jacket is removable. It’s not gonna be that way from Hasbro. You’re right though, Toybiz was my favorite as well because they made custom molds for almost every figure. They really felt special. And yea, I understand wanting them to put out quality figures…it’s just, it goes overboard haha. Kane’s elbow shouldn’t be justification to jump ship to Hasbro. Especially since if it were Hasbro, you wouldn’t have gotten the other 99% of the figure looking as good as it does. I’ll take a skin color joint, it’s really not a thing. The figure looks fantastic, he’s even got the cape….cmon, at least we can hide it haha. We can all agree to disagree but you complaining about gambit is like most of us complaining about Kane right now. And like what was said in the other topic, Hasbro gave everyone who asked a replacement corrected head for a ranger. Mattel knowingly released Kane as is as evident from the back of the box and not a peep from anyone. It is what it is, we are all different and we all have different opinions, but for you to shut down a legitimate issue because you're ok with it doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with it. I don't have any issues with any release of mmpr from Hasbro that I purchased. (I don't collect anything else from Hasbro nor do I collect anything else from Mattel) Hell this topic is about HBKs atrocious face scans. Yet I have every damn one of them from mattel. Kane having the error that it has pisses me off as much as gambit pisses you off. That's all I can say on the matter. It's all respect man. We are all in this together that's why we are on here. Edit: just want to add, I don't want Mattel to lose the license, but I also wouldn't be mad if Hasbro took the reigns. I would like Mattel to stop being cheap and trying to cut corners on a premium line. The difference being, I don’t think Hasbro normally outputs the quality Mattel does on every other figure, Kane included. Gambit doesn’t annoy me, it’s just laziness. My point was, they are lazy on somebody as significant as Gambit, no effort was put into his figure. Kane looks great, he just has a defect where a joint is not painted. Hasbro, IMO though doesnt output the quality Mattel does. And this is where things are lost in translation. If I don’t think it’s a big deal, what should I say, I do? I’m not shooting anything down, I’m saying I don’t think it’s a big deal…to me it’s not. I didn’t say you were shooting my opinion down right? I don’t think it’s a big deal, you do. That’s all there is, it’s not shooting anybody down, it just is what it is. Im not trying to be argumentative at all, please keep that in mind, I love all you guys haha. Im just saying all this in its most literal context, it’s just not a big deal to me but it’s up to you guys to say IT IS a big deal to you. Im not speaking on any bodies behalf but mine 😅. If I’m being dismissive, I’m doing so as it pertains to me. I still want the fig 😆
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 10, 2021 20:28:39 GMT -5
We can all agree to disagree but you complaining about gambit is like most of us complaining about Kane right now. And like what was said in the other topic, Hasbro gave everyone who asked a replacement corrected head for a ranger. Mattel knowingly released Kane as is as evident from the back of the box and not a peep from anyone. It is what it is, we are all different and we all have different opinions, but for you to shut down a legitimate issue because you're ok with it doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with it. I don't have any issues with any release of mmpr from Hasbro that I purchased. (I don't collect anything else from Hasbro nor do I collect anything else from Mattel) Hell this topic is about HBKs atrocious face scans. Yet I have every damn one of them from mattel. Kane having the error that it has pisses me off as much as gambit pisses you off. That's all I can say on the matter. It's all respect man. We are all in this together that's why we are on here. Edit: just want to add, I don't want Mattel to lose the license, but I also wouldn't be mad if Hasbro took the reigns. I would like Mattel to stop being cheap and trying to cut corners on a premium line. The difference being, I don’t think Hasbro normally outputs the quality Mattel does on every other figure, Kane included. Gambit doesn’t annoy me, it’s just laziness. My point was, they are lazy on somebody as significant as Gambit, no effort was put into his figure. Kane looks great, he just has a defect where a joint is not painted. Hasbro, IMO though doesnt output the quality Mattel does. And this is where things are lost in translation. If I don’t think it’s a big deal, what should I say, I do? I’m not shooting anything down, I’m saying I don’t think it’s a big deal…to me it’s not. I didn’t say you were shooting my opinion down right? I don’t think it’s a big deal, you do. That’s all there is, it’s not shooting anybody down, it just is what it is. Im not trying to be argumentative at all, please keep that in mind, I love all you guys haha. Im just saying all this in its most literal context, it’s just not a big deal to me but it’s up to you guys to say IT IS a big deal to you. Im not speaking on any bodies behalf but mine 😅. If I’m being dismissive, I’m doing so as it pertains to me. I still want the fig 😆 I just feel most people that are dismissive about Kane because they wanted to have Kane wear his cape and won't see this as an issue, whereas I HAVE to have his cape on to ignore whats not there you know? I never intended to have the cape on him, but now I HAVE to is what annoys me most. I wanted a stalking chokeslam Kane and I can't have that with this figure. The gambit thing was just trying to compare the 2 lol Anyways back to HBKs atrocious face scans 😂
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 20:37:55 GMT -5
The difference being, I don’t think Hasbro normally outputs the quality Mattel does on every other figure, Kane included. Gambit doesn’t annoy me, it’s just laziness. My point was, they are lazy on somebody as significant as Gambit, no effort was put into his figure. Kane looks great, he just has a defect where a joint is not painted. Hasbro, IMO though doesnt output the quality Mattel does. And this is where things are lost in translation. If I don’t think it’s a big deal, what should I say, I do? I’m not shooting anything down, I’m saying I don’t think it’s a big deal…to me it’s not. I didn’t say you were shooting my opinion down right? I don’t think it’s a big deal, you do. That’s all there is, it’s not shooting anybody down, it just is what it is. Im not trying to be argumentative at all, please keep that in mind, I love all you guys haha. Im just saying all this in its most literal context, it’s just not a big deal to me but it’s up to you guys to say IT IS a big deal to you. Im not speaking on any bodies behalf but mine 😅. If I’m being dismissive, I’m doing so as it pertains to me. I still want the fig 😆 I just feel most people that are dismissive about Kane because they wanted to have Kane wear his cape and won't see this as an issue, whereas I HAVE to have his cape on to ignore whats not there you know? I never intended to have the cape on him, but now I HAVE to is what annoys me most. I wanted a stalking chokeslam Kane and I can't have that with this figure. The gambit thing was just trying to compare the 2 lol Anyways back to HBKs atrocious face scans 😂 No, look, I totally understand where you’re coming from. I’m not celebrating that he’s got an unpainted joint haha, believe me. I just think context is key, what are we talking about here? We’re saying an otherwise solid figure isn’t perfect because he’s got an unpainted joint. So it’s not perfect, it’s an action figure, like, to me, that doesn’t ruin it, it just make it less than perfect. I’ll still enjoy it if you know what I mean. I don’t know, maybe I’m getting old but to me there still toys. I don’t believe the rest of the work that went into the figure looking great is diminished by the unpainted joint. That’s what I’m trying to say. Just pose him facing front, you won’t be able to see the joint if he’s facing forward. He’s got a “made in China” on his foot too, don’t stress about it. But again, do I wish they painted the joint…of course! It would have been a perfect figure. But IDK, it’s a toy to me. Jakks use to leave the entire back of the attire unpainted haha, this is small chickens. The hair color always bothers me more on HBK. But even in the video games, IDK, he’s never quite right looking.
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Post by coldblooded on Oct 10, 2021 20:52:07 GMT -5
Seems only Jakks and acclaim can get HBK right, Mattel only once with WM14. Thq and 2k still can't lol
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 10, 2021 20:53:36 GMT -5
I see nobody mentioned how Hasbro cant have the mmpr Red helmet done right....I mean the leader of the most emblematic team and you cant have it right? Dude, anybody that collects Hasbro figures should know they would be NO better. Mattel is leaps and bounds ahead of the product Hasbro is putting out, that is so clear to anybody that buys this stuff haha. Like you said, Red Rangers helmet is horrible. Bandai made Red Rangers for 20 years, none have a head that wrong, where was the confusion? Mattel has been a good fit because they do barbies, all the entrance gear and gear details are taken for granted. Everybody has forgotten the “vest days” of Jakks? haha, if you came out with any entrance gear at all, you got a vest. Or the black tights with 2 or 3 decals to make it resemble the gear. Nowhere near the detail Mattel has put in and Hasbro would be no better. Every set of Marvel Legends has CLEAR cost cutting figures. I can’t say the same for Mattel. Plus Hasbros aren’t in scale. That will be issue #1 if they took over. It’s one thing if Nash isn’t as big as he should be, and Nash being smaller than Rey Mysterio like Jakks did. You’ve seen the Hasbro Pulse Metallic Red Ranger helmet, right? It’s spot on. Yeah, the first red Ranger helmet is bad, but they’ve nailed the sculpt of every other helmet and are releasing a corrected red helmet as well. And you’ve also seen the old Mattel DC Universe Classics line, right? The one where they used the same few outdated sculpts for over 15 years. Yeah, Hasbro has a lot of reused parts in the ML line (“Bucky-Cap” sculpt is a meme at this point), but they’ve released more new sculpts than Mattel has under the WWE line over the past decade. Hasbro corrected their mistake with the Lightning Collection Dino Thunder White Ranger by sending everyone who purchased one a free helmet earlier this year. Mattel, who purposely hid Kane’s ridiculous arm in their promo photos, has yet to even address the issue, let alone offer any type of fix or apology. No, neither company is perfect, but Hasbro has built a lot more good will with collectors in recent years than Mattel. Hell, look what they constantly pump out to collectors with HasLab (Sentinel and Glactus being the recent big ones). Meanwhile, Mattel just had their first release under the Mattel Creations team after having the line for 11 years already, and half the item is a ring that’s been re-released countless times over the years. It wouldn’t be perfect, but I’d have a hard time believing it would be worse than what we have now (not saying Mattel is bad, but the cost cutting measures is getting ridiculous).
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 21:00:25 GMT -5
Dude, anybody that collects Hasbro figures should know they would be NO better. Mattel is leaps and bounds ahead of the product Hasbro is putting out, that is so clear to anybody that buys this stuff haha. Like you said, Red Rangers helmet is horrible. Bandai made Red Rangers for 20 years, none have a head that wrong, where was the confusion? Mattel has been a good fit because they do barbies, all the entrance gear and gear details are taken for granted. Everybody has forgotten the “vest days” of Jakks? haha, if you came out with any entrance gear at all, you got a vest. Or the black tights with 2 or 3 decals to make it resemble the gear. Nowhere near the detail Mattel has put in and Hasbro would be no better. Every set of Marvel Legends has CLEAR cost cutting figures. I can’t say the same for Mattel. Plus Hasbros aren’t in scale. That will be issue #1 if they took over. It’s one thing if Nash isn’t as big as he should be, and Nash being smaller than Rey Mysterio like Jakks did. You’ve seen the Hasbro Pulse Metallic Red Ranger helmet, right? It’s spot on. Yeah, the first red Ranger helmet is bad, but they’ve nailed the sculpt of every other helmet and are releasing a corrected red helmet as well. And you’ve also seen the old Mattel DC Universe Classics line, right? The one where they used the same few outdated sculpts for over 15 years. Yeah, Hasbro has a lot of reused parts in the ML line (“Bucky-Cap” sculpt is a meme at this point), but they’ve released more new sculpts than Mattel has under the WWE line over the past decade. Hasbro corrected their mistake with the Lightning Collection Dino Thunder White Ranger by sending everyone who purchased one a free helmet earlier this year. Mattel, who purposely hid Kane’s ridiculous arm in their promo photos, has yet to even address the issue, let alone offer any type of fix or apology. No, neither company is perfect, but Hasbro has built a lot more good will with collectors in recent years than Mattel. Hell, look what they constantly pump out to collectors with HasLab (Sentienl and Glactus being the recent big ones). Meanwhile, Mattel just had their first released under the Mattel Creations teams put having the line for 11 years already, and half the item is a ring that’s been re-released countless times over the years. I have my perspective on Hasbro, I don’t think it’s all rainbows and sunshine over there. Crowdfunding shouldn’t be used by billion dollar corporations that can easily fund their own projects, and then they sent out the Sentinel with broken legs….I’m standing firm that Hasbro isn’t the answer haha, I much much MUCH prefer Mattel. By leaps and bounds. Hasbro is going to give you a Kane that doesn’t look half as good to begin with, and it’ll still have design defects such as you won’t even be able to take the cape off or something dumb. You DEFINITELY won’t be able to take ring jackets off because they do that now with the Legends. And he’ll be in scale with Rey Mysterio. The Power Rangers line…ugh, dude….they released a King Spyhnx that didn’t have the nose painted. I mean, it’s one thing to miss a joint, how do you leave off a vital paint app right square in the front of his face?? And they do stuff like that all the time. Yes they fixed White Dino Thunder but that’s because people went ape s**t on them. Prepare to do that and they won’t fix it every time because they didn’t fix King Sphinx and that’s why he’s pegwarming. It looks ridiculous. Right off the bat, the figures won’t look as good and they won’t have any scaling or removable accessories because they don’t do that now in their current lines. They’ll do some stuff better, but you’ll be giving up an awful lot for stuff that, for me, isn’t all that equal in comparison. That’s way worse than what we have now. Did you see Rocky & Kimberlys heads? Ay Carumba. It all adds up on Hasbros tab too
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