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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 10, 2021 21:06:04 GMT -5
You’ve seen the Hasbro Pulse Metallic Red Ranger helmet, right? It’s spot on. Yeah, the first red Ranger helmet is bad, but they’ve nailed the sculpt of every other helmet and are releasing a corrected red helmet as well. And you’ve also seen the old Mattel DC Universe Classics line, right? The one where they used the same few outdated sculpts for over 15 years. Yeah, Hasbro has a lot of reused parts in the ML line (“Bucky-Cap” sculpt is a meme at this point), but they’ve released more new sculpts than Mattel has under the WWE line over the past decade. Hasbro corrected their mistake with the Lightning Collection Dino Thunder White Ranger by sending everyone who purchased one a free helmet earlier this year. Mattel, who purposely hid Kane’s ridiculous arm in their promo photos, has yet to even address the issue, let alone offer any type of fix or apology. No, neither company is perfect, but Hasbro has built a lot more good will with collectors in recent years than Mattel. Hell, look what they constantly pump out to collectors with HasLab (Sentienl and Glactus being the recent big ones). Meanwhile, Mattel just had their first released under the Mattel Creations teams put having the line for 11 years already, and half the item is a ring that’s been re-released countless times over the years. I have my perspective on Hasbro, I don’t think it’s all rainbows and sunshine over there. Crowdfunding shouldn’t be used by billion dollar corporations that can easily fund their own projects, and then they sent out the Sentinel with broken legs….I’m standing firm that Hasbro isn’t the answer haha, I much much MUCH prefer Mattel. By leaps and bounds. Hasbro is going to give you a Kane that doesn’t look half as good to begin with, and it’ll still have design defects suck as you won’t even be able to take the cape off or something dumb. You DEFINITELY won’t be able to take ring jackets off because they do that now with the Legends. The Power Rangers line…ugh, dude….they released a King Spyhnx that didn’t have the nose painted. I mean, it’s one thing to miss a joint, how do you leave off a vital paint app right square in the front of his face?? And they do stuff like that all the time. Yes they fixed White Dino Thunder but that’s because people went ape s**t on them. Prepare to do that and they won’t fix it every time because they didn’t fix King Sphinx and that’s why he’s pegwarming. It looks ridiculous. The legs weren’t broken. There’s countless videos of the Sentinel where a simple pop of a cap and a tightening of a screw fixes the looseness of the legs. Yeah, King Sphinx is bad. No defending that. Pumpkin Rapper is barely better. But their Zedd and Goldar releases were great. Again, Hasbro isn’t amazing, but I feel they’ve built more good will than Mattel (just personal opinion). There GI Joe, ML, and Lightning Collection lines have had more good than bad IMO. |
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Oct 10, 2021 21:19:56 GMT -5
I have my perspective on Hasbro, I don’t think it’s all rainbows and sunshine over there. Crowdfunding shouldn’t be used by billion dollar corporations that can easily fund their own projects, and then they sent out the Sentinel with broken legs….I’m standing firm that Hasbro isn’t the answer haha, I much much MUCH prefer Mattel. By leaps and bounds. Hasbro is going to give you a Kane that doesn’t look half as good to begin with, and it’ll still have design defects suck as you won’t even be able to take the cape off or something dumb. You DEFINITELY won’t be able to take ring jackets off because they do that now with the Legends. The Power Rangers line…ugh, dude….they released a King Spyhnx that didn’t have the nose painted. I mean, it’s one thing to miss a joint, how do you leave off a vital paint app right square in the front of his face?? And they do stuff like that all the time. Yes they fixed White Dino Thunder but that’s because people went ape s**t on them. Prepare to do that and they won’t fix it every time because they didn’t fix King Sphinx and that’s why he’s pegwarming. It looks ridiculous. The legs weren’t broken. There’s countless videos of the Sentinel where a simple pop of a cap and a tightening of a screw fixes the looseness of the legs. Yeah, King Sphinx is bad. No defending that. Pumpkin Rapper is barely better. But their Zedd and Goldar releases were great. Again, Hasbro isn’t amazing, but I feel they’ve built more good will than Mattel (just personal opinion). There GI Joe, ML, and Lightning Collection lines have had more good than bad IMO. You honestly think Mattel hasn’t produced more good than bad though? Like I’m seriously asking, what are the major complaints? I love everything I buy, I know that haha, otherwise I would t be buying it! It’s the same principals though, it costs a metric ton and it arrives with loose joints. It’s just like, cmon guys. Distributions has always been an issue for Hasbro as well, that’s all beside the point though. I feel like a WWE Hasbro figure would be more in line with what Jakks was doing than what Mattel is doing. Everything I like about wrestling figures, Mattel is doing. Scale, attention to attire detail & great entrance gear. I think it’s an awful lot to gamble just to get back to square 1. I feel we’ll lose more things we liked about Mattel than we’ll gain in new Hasbro ideas. I love the combination of basics & elites, and how they look in line enough to mix them and get different attire choices etc. I love all that. Ill yell it on the rooftops if I must, the day Mattel loses the WWE license will be an awful day. We will have lost the best wrestling figures we will ever get, and the only saving grace would be if AEW signed with them but I’d rather have the classic WWE guys honestly. You guys will see haha, Hasbro isn’t the answer. Also, take into consideration the world events right now, everybody is cutting corners. Give them a little bit of a break |
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Post by berealnicknaro on Oct 11, 2021 7:36:28 GMT -5
As someone who lived through and had a huge Jakks collection starting from BCA up to RA, I have to agree that Mattel’s WWE figures are the best they’ve ever been done. When they took over and I held an Elite in my hand for the first time, I thought “I wish wrestling figures had always been like this.”
That said, I do think after ten years Mattel should have a much larger and more diverse library of parts, but they do a good job with what they have.
Both companies have some impressive output and some embarrassing output. If Hasbro were to take over, it would be much of the same. A bunch of generic bucks and a few character specific bodies. I’m not entirely sure we’d get separate elbow and knee pads though. Quality would be about the same. The only difference would be availability. Hasbro already has so many lines going, WWE might not get as much of a push as it deserves.
Either way, right now the most impressive output from any company is McFarlene’s DC line. $20 and every figure is unique. I don’t even buy them, but it kind of exposes the Hasbro/Mattel excuse about requiring parts reuse to keep costs down.
Then you’ve got Jazwares’ Halo and Fortnite stuff. I don’t think AEW is there quite yet. Bodies are good, but the heads need to improve.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Oct 11, 2021 8:44:52 GMT -5
Hasbro will be no better than Mattel are currently. They also suffer from QC issues, re-used parts over and over and occasionally make bad calls.
They don't really have any positives over Mattel. They both use photo-realistic tech and their distribution is similar.
The grass isn't always greener.
The only thing I will say is that in recent years they have been listening to the fans more than Mattel. Only a little bit more though.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Oct 11, 2021 8:46:32 GMT -5
I'll preface by saying it's been years since I've touched the Marvel Legends line...but I'm still burdened by major collecting trauma over the original transition of the line from ToyBiz to Hasbro. Obviously Hasbro is putting out a better product now, but those first few lines were a significant drop off in quality, and effectively killed my interest in the line. This is always the first thought in my mind whenever I see the echo chamber emerge calling for Mattel to lose the license in favor of Hasbro.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 11, 2021 8:52:46 GMT -5
As someone who lived through and had a huge Jakks collection starting from BCA up to RA, I have to agree that Mattel’s WWE figures are the best they’ve ever been done. When they took over and I held an Elite in my hand for the first time, I thought “I wish wrestling figures had always been like this.” That said, I do think after ten years Mattel should have a much larger and more diverse library of parts, but they do a good job with what they have. Both companies have some impressive output and some embarrassing output. If Hasbro were to take over, it would be much of the same. A bunch of generic bucks and a few character specific bodies. I’m not entirely sure we’d get separate elbow and knee pads though. Quality would be about the same. The only difference would be availability. Hasbro already has so many lines going, WWE might not get as much of a push as it deserves. Either way, right now the most impressive output from any company is McFarlene’s DC line. $20 and every figure is unique. I don’t even buy them, but it kind of exposes the Hasbro/Mattel excuse about requiring parts reuse to keep costs down. Then you’ve got Jazwares’ Halo and Fortnite stuff. I don’t think AEW is there quite yet. Bodies are good, but the heads need to improve. Spot on with McFarlane. It’s crazy how many new sculpts they’re able to push out and how quickly too. Now the trade off is typically less paint apps and a lot of re-releases with a different head sculpt to help offset the price of new sculpts, but I’m with you that McFarlane is proving there’s a way to provide unique sculpts while keeping costs down. |
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Post by ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕 𝕋𝕠 𝕂𝕚𝕝𝕝 on Oct 11, 2021 9:06:32 GMT -5
I have no idea what era they're going for but it is probably the best HBK scan they've done next to the Basic 100 head. Its really the only one that got his face likeness down so well. The 1993 mullet scan they have is really good, too.
His open mouth UE scan is pretty decent, too, but I feel like the E19/WM14 elites almost look ape-ish. Elite 3 scan is totally off in the face and the hair color. The Network Spotlight scan is just off-- like the hair doesn't sit right and his face is melting.
I have yet to be very impressed with any HBK scan besides that Basic 100 headscan.
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Post by n2jib on Oct 13, 2021 13:38:06 GMT -5
Not a single photo in this thread which discusses headscan? 😁
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 13, 2021 16:17:35 GMT -5
Not a single photo in this thread which discusses headscan? 😁 Whatever happened to No Pics no Proof? |
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Post by kgchampion on Oct 13, 2021 16:55:47 GMT -5
The real question is why don’t we have a better example of 1995 HBK? That terrible headscan they used for the Summerslam ‘95 haunts my dreams. The early 90’s HBK headscan are almost perfect, but the hair is too short. We need that HBK face with a longer mullet. If only so I can relieve my BCA days with that era Shawn Michaels figure. Seriously, 1995 and 1996 are so underrepresented.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Oct 17, 2021 18:53:50 GMT -5
The real question is why don’t we have a better example of 1995 HBK? That terrible headscan they used for the Summerslam ‘95 haunts my dreams. The early 90’s HBK headscan are almost perfect, but the hair is too short. We need that HBK face with a longer mullet. If only so I can relieve my BCA days with that era Shawn Michaels figure. Seriously, 1995 and 1996 are so underrepresented. The problem I have is that by Summer of ‘95 he had grown his hair out of the mullet…it was just long hair at that point, and Summerslam ‘95 (one of my top 2 Shawn attire wants) had a mullet. Now, I still like the figure, but that hair is kinda a letdown. |
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I dont know good luck 
