TWJT
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Post by TWJT on Oct 23, 2021 9:41:14 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but if all the big names from WCW had been able to come over during The Invasion, what would you have thought about having the nWo invade the WWF at the same time as WCW? Perhaps the main players come in from the original, pre-split, '96-'98 nWo, and they either serve as a wild card third brand, or team with the traditional WCW stars to take down the WWF. Because so much of WCW's success was based around the nWo, it's interesting that the two invasions happened a few months apart. I wonder if the nWo could've more or less taken the place of ECW.
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Post by ππ΅πβοΈ on Oct 23, 2021 10:03:15 GMT -5
I hoped it would have been a bigger, ongoing, never ending war, with 8 sides.
WWF vs. WCW vs. ECW vs. NWA vs. NWO vs. DX vs. BWO vs. the Radicalz (SuperStars that were in multiple brands who don't exactly have a "home")
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Post by jason88cubs on Oct 23, 2021 16:18:35 GMT -5
Would have been cool, maybe, if Hogan, Nash, Hall came out and they were like "We did what you wanted us to do Vince, we ended WCW, we poisoned them, but now its time to poison you"
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 26, 2021 0:12:55 GMT -5
Fantasy booking wise, the nWo could have been the wild card between the WWF and WCW/ECW. Basically a 3-way βwar.β
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 28, 2021 14:24:27 GMT -5
Contract wise, Hall and Hogan would have been the only two main guys that would have been able to come in during the Invasion era.
Nash and Steiner were still under contract to Time Warner. Bagwell already ruined his chances. X Pac was already there. No one else in the group really matters.
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Post by Evil Abed on Oct 28, 2021 14:31:03 GMT -5
I hoped it would have been a bigger, ongoing, never ending war, with 8 sides. WWF vs. WCW vs. ECW vs. NWA vs. NWO vs. DX vs. BWO vs. the Radicalz (SuperStars that were in multiple brands who don't exactly have a "home") Only if the BWO comes out on top as the dominant brand. I assume basically if they could get all the contracts to all the nWo guys that ECW probably doesnt get invited to the party.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 28, 2021 14:43:48 GMT -5
Oh come on now, everyone knows that the Invasion angle was a hit with the top heels for WCW/ECW being Steve Austin, Kurt Angle and Shane McMahon. For nothing says WCW and ECW like Austin, Angle and Shane O Mac! Ha ha ha
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Post by Evil Abed on Oct 28, 2021 15:37:53 GMT -5
Oh come on now, everyone knows that the Invasion angle was a hit with the top heels for WCW/ECW being Steve Austin, Kurt Angle and Shane McMahon. For nothing says WCW and ECW like Austin, Angle and Shane O Mac! Ha ha ha I know that he was kind of a big nothing at the time but bringing Big Show to the alliance and rebranding him as the Giant would have made a lot more sense and maybe helped save his career during that time.
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Post by RSCTom on Oct 28, 2021 21:15:14 GMT -5
In a way the whole Invasion angle would have had to have been different for that to happen. If you kept it the same but added the nWo I feel like the same issues that took place in how it went would have just been even more bloated. They could have invaded and had defectors / all this stuff but it still would have been shot and booked in typical 'WWE is the top' style and been all the same and I don't think an earlier nWo would have helped that. It's the forced, manufactured lightning in a bottle they were trying to create that didn't compare to the REAL Monday night wars bottled lightning where you really could see invasions play out, even just someone like Jeff Jarrett or the Radicalz changing brands felt raw and natural. It's also the same thing they try to recreate with a Raw/Smackdown brand split when there's no discernible difference between most of WWE's shows.
If they had just kept the brands running in noticeably different ways maybe it would make more sense for a team like the nWo to be able to jump back and forth? The whole thing would be more of a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
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Post by K5 on Oct 30, 2021 15:50:23 GMT -5
wouldβve had it so that the non nwo roster was just faces coming in looking for job mid card guys - the Kidmanβs, mike awesomes, etc
then have nwo be the threat, with some wwf roster betraying in the process
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 31, 2021 8:51:37 GMT -5
Oh come on now, everyone knows that the Invasion angle was a hit with the top heels for WCW/ECW being Steve Austin, Kurt Angle and Shane McMahon. For nothing says WCW and ECW like Austin, Angle and Shane O Mac! Ha ha ha I know that he was kind of a big nothing at the time but bringing Big Show to the alliance and rebranding him as the Giant would have made a lot more sense and maybe helped save his career during that time. Iβve always said that if we were stuck with the rosters we got, turn Big Show and Jericho heel and have them join the alliance rather than Austin (and later Angle).
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 31, 2021 11:43:39 GMT -5
I'd have done something along the lines of nWo invading WWF and growing to include Hogan, Hall, Nash, Big Show, X Pac and an incoming Scott Steiner.
Have them do the whole nWo thing all over Raw and SmackDown! for a while - at one PPV they kill Stone Cold and write him off for a bit, at the next they put Rock on the shelf, then they murder Kane and Undertaker which leaves the WWF without leaders that can stand up to the nWo.
Then, one night, the nWo is in the ring gloating that they've taken over the WWF when Sting appears in the rafters. Lights out - DDP is in the ring, and dishing out Diamond Cutters. The numbers become too much so out comes Booker T. The nWo take a powder and leave Sting, DDP, and Booker T to celebrate in the ring.
By this point, the nWo has started to grow a little more, and incorporates a lot of the guys from the Alliance. They're feeling pretty good even if some of their old foes have turned up and put a fly in the ointment - they've eliminated all the top guys the WWF had to offer after all. Until Goldberg's music hits. He flies down the ring and the nWo take a powder and run to the top of the ramp - where Sting, DDP, and Booker T are waiting. Panicking, the nWo are ready to fight the three of them until the glass shatters and Austin leads Rock, 'Taker and Kane out to join DDP, Sting, and Booker T. The nWo choose to split up and exit through different parts of the crowd. We're left with the image of DDP, Booker T, Sting and Goldberg having a tense staredown with Austin, Rock, Kane and the Undertaker.
For the next few weeks, the four WWF guys and the four WCW guys struggle to get on the same page - they don't trust each other and keep getting in each other's way, even fighting and hitting finishers on each other. Meanwhile, the nWo is helping to stir the pot and create situations that increase the volatility of the WWF/WCW guys' relationship. By this time, Eric Bischoff has arrived on the scene and the nWo has evolved to include the likes of Kronik, Buff Bagwell, Sean O'Haire, Mark Jindrak, Mike Awesome, Chuck Palumbo, Chris Kanyon, Curt Hennig, Shawn Stasiak, Billy Kidman and so on.
Eventually, we get to the Survivor Series and have the final blow off match: nWo vs WWF - Hogan, Hall, Nash, X Pac, Big Show, Steiner, Buff Bagwell and Curt Hennig vs Austin, Rock, Undertaker, Kane, Goldberg, Sting, DDP and Booker T. If the nWo wins, Eric Bischoff becomes the new Chairman and CEO of the WWF, and if they lose they can never team again. Bischoff lays down the law backstage and says that, even if they win, anyone weak enough to get eliminated will be beaten out of the nWo. Team WWF comes down but Kane has been missing all night - turns out Nash, Hall, and X Pac gave him a serious beating and locked him in the back of a truck that Jindrak and O'Haire have driven away from the arena. A returning HHH's music hits, and he joins team WWF as Kane's replacement. Buff is the first eliminated and gets absolutely obliterated by the nWo. Then Big Show. Then Steiner. The match dwindles down to Hogan, Hall, Nash and X Pac on the nWo side, and HHH, Austin, Rock and Goldberg on the WWF side. The nWo are able to pull shenanigans (including having Nick Patrick ignoring tap-outs, doing fast counts when WWF guys are being pinned etc) to get it down to Hogan, Hall, Nash and X Pac on the nWo side, and HHH on the WWF side. Hogan gets in the ring, has a bit of back and forth with HHH - the ref goes down and Hogan is about to hit the leg drop after nailing HHH with a low blow when, out of nowhere, a masked man hits the ring and drops Hogan with a steel chair. Hall, Nash and X Pac dive in to get the masked man, but instead turn on Hogan - they each hit him with their finishers and HHH smashes him with a sledge hammer. Bischoff is losing his mind at ringside so they drag him in and give him the business too. HHH rips off the masked man's mask to reveal HBK. HHH, Hall, Nash and X Pac then proceed to shut down the show ala the Nexus in 2010. They cut the ropes, they rip up the canvas, they dismantle the commentators' table, they attack the referees, the camera crew, everyone. The match ends in a no-contest and the show finishes with the Kliq celebrating at the top of the ramp.
Now the Kliq is an on-air faction that completely takes over, bringing the best of the nWo and DX together - Hogan turns babyface and has his match with The Rock at WMX8, HHH still wins the Royal Rumble and takes the WWE title off Jericho, Austin still has his match with Hall, Nash can have a match with Steiner or Goldberg or something, HBK still doesn't return to the ring until HHH inevitably betrays him in the summer, and all the top stars mentioned earlier can be the faces of the two brands when the split happens in 2002.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Oct 31, 2021 12:07:54 GMT -5
No way Vince was ever going to buy out Hogan's insane contract.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Nov 1, 2021 8:01:43 GMT -5
No way Vince was ever going to buy out Hogan's insane contract. Hogan and Hall were both available during the Invasion. Hall didn't want to go without Nash (who still had a contract), and Hogan tried to start his own promotion. He decided to go back to WWE after that failed.
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Post by JokerFC on Nov 1, 2021 20:25:25 GMT -5
In an ideal world the nWo interrupt McMahons victory celebrations over Jericho/Flair led WCW on the Raw after WM18 & kick the crap out of him.
Bischoff, Hogan, Nash, Waltman, Giant & Hall.
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