secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Nov 1, 2021 13:22:16 GMT -5
I really want both Coles really badly but if they can't release them just put Finn and Drew in the set then I'll be happy I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a quick repaint of E82 Finn.
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Post by Midnight: Dark Knight on Nov 1, 2021 18:50:08 GMT -5
Typical wfigs! 4 pages of nonsensical guesses, theories and conspiracies spoken as fact.
Ill just wait it out and see what happens or until mattel tells us…now i sound crazy
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Post by Finn Bálor #1 Fan on Nov 1, 2021 20:12:14 GMT -5
I really want both Coles really badly but if they can't release them just put Finn and Drew in the set then I'll be happy I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a quick repaint of E82 Finn. yep need more of his PRIN❌E figures
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Post by Matt Culture on Nov 1, 2021 20:19:48 GMT -5
I hope that at least the Cole comes out, because I generally like people to be able to get the figures they want, and also because I'd love nothing more than the lasting gripe to finally be put to bed....but I'm not optimistic that it will. I don't need either figure, so it's whatever for me. so instead of doing a search for this topic, which has been in quite a few threads, you decided to start a new one, just because you are that Lazy? Aren't you the guy who's always going bonkers trying to police the tone and topic of the Upcoming Figures thread? Kind of a weird flex to swing in here trying to pick a fight, rather than offer any sort of help on the subject. i am not trying to pick a fight, rather then point out, that every since Cole and Wyatt left WWE, and the announcement of who was supposed to be in Elite 92, there have been a dozen or so posts about this very subject, even some asking Steve on the Ask Mattel Thread.
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livemrnuva
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Post by livemrnuva on Nov 1, 2021 22:41:50 GMT -5
The Fiend is owned by WWE, they can release him if they want. It’s been established multiple times by Mattel that the person portraying the version of the gimmick represented has to be signed to a deal even if WWE owns the gimmick. For example, if WWE trotted out a new Fiend tomorrow night, Mattel could conceivably make that person, but can’t make a new Bray Wyatt Fiend (though the burnet Fiend could have been in production already, but that’s a whole different thing) Doesn't Mattel put out Doink figures without him being under contract? I'm curious to see because The Fiend should be no different than making a Jason or Michael Myers figure if WWE has the rights. I feel slim to none of the Fiend while Cole is 99% not happening.
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crush
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Post by crush on Nov 1, 2021 23:35:30 GMT -5
It’s been established multiple times by Mattel that the person portraying the version of the gimmick represented has to be signed to a deal even if WWE owns the gimmick. For example, if WWE trotted out a new Fiend tomorrow night, Mattel could conceivably make that person, but can’t make a new Bray Wyatt Fiend (though the burnet Fiend could have been in production already, but that’s a whole different thing) Doesn't Mattel put out Doink figures without him being under contract? I'm curious to see because The Fiend should be no different than making a Jason or Michael Myers figure if WWE has the rights. I feel slim to none of the Fiend while Cole is 99% not happening. I have no idea what the specific legal ramifications are (though I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that there are are still identifying features of the talent physically) but Steve has made it pretty clear in the past. One of the times it was answered in the Q&A thread: I know you have said you won’t answer questions about if this guy or that guy is under a deal but I feel this is a little different. Are there any gimmicks you can or can’t make due to a wrestler either not wanting it or wwe rejecting it. For years we have heard Kane didn’t like the Issac yankem gimmick but you were able to do that. Also are there any gimmicks you guys can do without having to sign someone. Like Doink’s gimmick is owned by Wwe so you didn’t have to have a talent signed or maybe you did? Is that the reason we haven’t gotten a Dink? Because only one persons has portrayed him? There’s no banned gimmick list. If we want to do a version of a character we discuss things and see what happens. Currently, we need the performer of the gimmick to be under a deal. I know it hasn’t always been that way in the past but that’s what we’re currently working with.
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Post by GR81J on Nov 2, 2021 11:06:51 GMT -5
I still feel we r getting the whole series and just those 3 won’t be talked about or mentioned. Bc I looks like they already have samples made when they showed Rey and Scarlett
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Post by FBtagteamsrule on Nov 3, 2021 18:21:49 GMT -5
Was thinking if they don't do adam cole, should replace with Roderick strong in ue trunks to match the fish and O'Reilly variants. At least would still get a matching ue set since cole in that attire is out already.
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Post by rexdaman on Nov 5, 2021 3:03:41 GMT -5
I still feel we r getting the whole series and just those 3 won’t be talked about or mentioned. Bc I looks like they already have samples made when they showed Rey and Scarlett I still have 50-50 chance
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Post by GR81J on Nov 5, 2021 7:44:54 GMT -5
I still feel we r getting the whole series and just those 3 won’t be talked about or mentioned. Bc I looks like they already have samples made when they showed Rey and Scarlett I still have 50-50 chance Think about it they had samples already done of Scarlett and Rey, u don’t think the others r done yet to go with them??
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Post by personagamer on Nov 5, 2021 21:31:54 GMT -5
I think they r still going to come out and they can’t promote or mention them at all. If u think about it, when Gargano and Cole did the video before he left tge only 1 they didn’t show was Braun, when they showed loose images of E90 Bill only didn’t show Bronson and for the E92 renders they didn’t show Flair, burnt fiend and Cole… I still think we r getting them Adam Cole wasn’t fired. His contract expired and he works for AEW. Legally they can’t make it. Flair’s merchandise was removed from WWE Shop including the big fancy belt they were taking pre orders for, and he was removed from the signature intro. He’s verbolten. Bray’s no compete expires literally tomorrow. We’re not getting them. Maybe they can sneak Bray through at the last minute. The other two aren’t happening, Flair for now and Cole probably forever. that's exactly what people said about Zelina and Bronson
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Post by LK3 on Nov 5, 2021 21:44:29 GMT -5
I still have 50-50 chance Think about it they had samples already done of Scarlett and Rey, u don’t think the others r done yet to go with them?? They easily could’ve stopped production on them before samples were made. We simply don’t know.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Nov 5, 2021 21:52:47 GMT -5
Adam Cole wasn’t fired. His contract expired and he works for AEW. Legally they can’t make it. Flair’s merchandise was removed from WWE Shop including the big fancy belt they were taking pre orders for, and he was removed from the signature intro. He’s verbolten. Bray’s no compete expires literally tomorrow. We’re not getting them. Maybe they can sneak Bray through at the last minute. The other two aren’t happening, Flair for now and Cole probably forever. that's exactly what people said about Zelina and Bronson Zelina and Bronson were FIRED. Adam Cole was not fired, his deal expired, full stop, whatever you didn’t have done can’t be finished
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Post by livemrnuva on Nov 6, 2021 1:19:41 GMT -5
All I know is if Camo Cole is released from those China sellers on Ebay they're going to be higher priced than Hulk Hogan at Buddy's toyshop.
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Post by Nick Gemini on Nov 9, 2021 16:33:41 GMT -5
Has there been any confirmation on if these 2 will still be in the line? Was looking forward to the Burnt Fiend Figure in this wave.
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Post by isloth on Nov 9, 2021 21:51:30 GMT -5
No confirmation either way yet. I think there’s zero chance for Cole or Flair, but The Fiend might have a chance.
We got confirmation before too long about Bronson Reed but haven’t on these two, so I’d be surprised if either make the cut. Hope I’m wrong, though! Both looked fantastic in the renders.
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Post by Evil Abed on Nov 9, 2021 21:56:50 GMT -5
that's exactly what people said about Zelina and Bronson Zelina and Bronson were FIRED. Adam Cole was not fired, his deal expired, full stop, whatever you didn’t have done can’t be finished I.e. Legends 7 Sting It blows me away there’s still a large contingency that think these are seeing daylight. Cole will have been with AEW for 6 months before E92 even hits Ringside let alone retailers.
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Post by mrh on Nov 10, 2021 3:03:17 GMT -5
Zelina and Bronson were FIRED. Adam Cole was not fired, his deal expired, full stop, whatever you didn’t have done can’t be finished I.e. Legends 7 Sting It blows me away there’s still a large contingency that think these are seeing daylight. Cole will have been with AEW for 6 months before E92 even hits Ringside let alone retailers. That's a great point about the timing of the Cole. I still can't believe that in 2021, it takes as long -- if not longer -- to make a figure than 20-30 years ago. It makes no sense.
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Post by rydiddy on Nov 12, 2021 18:52:35 GMT -5
Did the major bros say that these figures were still coming out in the latest podcast?
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Post by crush on Nov 12, 2021 19:05:54 GMT -5
FWIW, the latest MajorPod episode essentially said they were told all the announced figures of released wrestlers (and they did list them) are still coming out. Take that for whatever it’s worth.
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