secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Nov 19, 2021 13:04:39 GMT -5
If this means more spots for potentially more Macho and Warrior have opened up in future waves then I’m all for these cuts. Get rid of all the bloat so more proven stars can get made.
Wait. You want people to lose their jobs for the benefit of your action figure collection? |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Nov 19, 2021 13:41:40 GMT -5
If this means more spots for potentially more Macho and Warrior have opened up in future waves then I’m all for these cuts. Get rid of all the bloat so more proven stars can get made.
Wait. You want people to lose their jobs for the benefit of your action figure collection? As opposed as those on here reacting to people losing their jobs as missed opportunities of figures they won’t be getting? |
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Post by wrestlingfan0815 on Nov 19, 2021 13:56:10 GMT -5
I would have loved an elite tegan nox but now it’ll never happen because Vince choose to never use her on the main roster, which the only reason her and hit row were brought up is so the can have a 90 day no compete clause vs 30
Do you think that company's being run with so much attention to detail that they would bother with that? This is not a company that cares about the specific situations of specific talents. The likelier scenario is that people are getting called up based on positive buzz or length of time in NXT, and then the goobers in charge don't have anything for them or in many cases are even aware they exist. Tegan's probably a case where the misfiring neurons in Vince's brain saw Shotzi's hair and said, "At least that one's marketable, PAL! Get some green wigs in the Shop! Whatta maneuver!" but didn't see anything special about Tegan from a 5-second glance. Then Bucky probably said, "Sheth got an athcent, Vinthe!" and that was that.
The weird thing is that she might be leaving with an undefeated record on the main roster - did her and Shotzi ever lose a match? I'm hoping she does another Stardom run, they have a ridiculously good roster there at this point.
with how heartless Vince obviously is it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he purposely does that why else bring up so much nxt talent only to release them right after, I surely hope tegan gets picked up soon after her 90 days and has a great run there |
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Post by Crane on Nov 19, 2021 13:57:01 GMT -5
I think everyone is just tired at this point
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Post by deskjet on Nov 19, 2021 14:30:30 GMT -5
Wait. You want people to lose their jobs for the benefit of your action figure collection? As opposed as those on here reacting to people losing their jobs as missed opportunities of figures they won’t be getting? Losing job does not mean losing income. They are entitled to unemployment benefits and can probably work elsewhere when the time is right |
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Nov 19, 2021 14:49:31 GMT -5
As opposed as those on here reacting to people losing their jobs as missed opportunities of figures they won’t be getting? Losing job does not mean losing income. They are entitled to unemployment benefits and can probably work elsewhere when the time is right Exactly. They’re still getting paid their minimum guarantee during their no-compete time period. If they’re talented then they’ll find work elsewhere. If not, then it probably wasn’t the profession they needed to be in anyway. Am I rooting for more cuts? No. But when discussing how it impacts action figure collecting in an action figure forum, then when there’s a mass release of talent from the current roster then it can only be a positive for those who collect legends. |
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Post by Vamp55 on Nov 19, 2021 14:49:52 GMT -5
As opposed as those on here reacting to people losing their jobs as missed opportunities of figures they won’t be getting? Losing job does not mean losing income. They are entitled to unemployment benefits and can probably work elsewhere when the time is right Um, losing your job means exactly that, you LOST your income. Sure, there are other streams of income, but you don’t get paid (income) if you don’t have a job - and while there maybe unemployment benefits available, they won’t be equivalent, hence LOSS of income. |
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Post by deskjet on Nov 19, 2021 15:32:38 GMT -5
Losing job does not mean losing income. They are entitled to unemployment benefits and can probably work elsewhere when the time is right Um, losing your job means exactly that, you LOST your income. Sure, there are other streams of income, but you don’t get paid (income) if you don’t have a job - and while there maybe unemployment benefits available, they won’t be equivalent, hence LOSS of income. No it means losing your job. Income can be attained other ways and often does after losing a job |
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Post by LA Times on Nov 19, 2021 15:32:47 GMT -5
I would have loved an elite tegan nox but now it’ll never happen because Vince choose to never use her on the main roster, which the only reason her and hit row were brought up is so the can have a 90 day no compete clause vs 30 Take her basic figure head and put it on a marvel legends captain marvel body. |
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secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Nov 19, 2021 15:52:19 GMT -5
Wait. You want people to lose their jobs for the benefit of your action figure collection? As opposed as those on here reacting to people losing their jobs as missed opportunities of figures they won’t be getting? Other people having skewed priorities doesn't make your reaction better. |
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secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Nov 19, 2021 15:54:12 GMT -5
Um, losing your job means exactly that, you LOST your income. Sure, there are other streams of income, but you don’t get paid (income) if you don’t have a job - and while there maybe unemployment benefits available, they won’t be equivalent, hence LOSS of income. No it means losing your job. Income can be attained other ways and often does after losing a job It means losing a significant source of income. Exactly what are you trying to prove here? It sucks to lose a job. Even for people who are likely going to find work elsewhere. There's no guarantee future work is going to be paid as well or be as consistent as a contract with the industry leader. A lot of these people are going to land on their feet pretty well, but not everyone will. |
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Post by Vamp55 on Nov 19, 2021 15:58:04 GMT -5
Um, losing your job means exactly that, you LOST your income. Sure, there are other streams of income, but you don’t get paid (income) if you don’t have a job - and while there maybe unemployment benefits available, they won’t be equivalent, hence LOSS of income. No it means losing your job. Income can be attained other ways and often does after losing a job Lol - this is off topic, but you seriously believe that a loss of a job and a loss of income are NOT linked or related? WOW! Employment is LITERALLY the trading of knowledge / ideas or labour for income. Having to try and convince someone of this is just madness. |
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secondwhiteline
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Post by secondwhiteline on Nov 19, 2021 16:06:57 GMT -5
Do you think that company's being run with so much attention to detail that they would bother with that? This is not a company that cares about the specific situations of specific talents. The likelier scenario is that people are getting called up based on positive buzz or length of time in NXT, and then the goobers in charge don't have anything for them or in many cases are even aware they exist. Tegan's probably a case where the misfiring neurons in Vince's brain saw Shotzi's hair and said, "At least that one's marketable, PAL! Get some green wigs in the Shop! Whatta maneuver!" but didn't see anything special about Tegan from a 5-second glance. Then Bucky probably said, "Sheth got an athcent, Vinthe!" and that was that.
The weird thing is that she might be leaving with an undefeated record on the main roster - did her and Shotzi ever lose a match? I'm hoping she does another Stardom run, they have a ridiculously good roster there at this point.
with how heartless Vince obviously is it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he purposely does that why else bring up so much nxt talent only to release them right after, I surely hope tegan gets picked up soon after her 90 days and has a great run there I honestly think it's a case where Vince's first impressions of a lot of these wrestlers are when they get to Raw or Smackdown. Most of them just don't have anyone to advocate for them, and that's obviously gotten worse with the company having a outside-wrestling CRO who seems monomaniacal about cutting costs. If so many of these cuts seem entirely arbitrary, I think the simplest explanation is because they are. This year the company has seen major departments like talent relations fracture into multiple smaller departments, they've had tons of executive turnover, they've made major changes to show formats. The place is a dumpster fire. |
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Post by coldblooded on Nov 19, 2021 17:13:06 GMT -5
Losing job does not mean losing income. They are entitled to unemployment benefits and can probably work elsewhere when the time is right Exactly. They’re still getting paid their minimum guarantee during their no-compete time period. If they’re talented then they’ll find work elsewhere. If not, then it probably wasn’t the profession they needed to be in anyway. Am I rooting for more cuts? No. But when discussing how it impacts action figure collecting in an action figure forum, then when there’s a mass release of talent from the current roster then it can only be a positive for those who collect legends. Bingo. |
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Post by coldblooded on Nov 19, 2021 17:14:44 GMT -5
Losing job does not mean losing income. They are entitled to unemployment benefits and can probably work elsewhere when the time is right Um, losing your job means exactly that, you LOST your income. Sure, there are other streams of income, but you don’t get paid (income) if you don’t have a job - and while there maybe unemployment benefits available, they won’t be equivalent, hence LOSS of income. They are still getting paid until thier no compete clause are 100% done. |
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Post by bizzclizz4life on Nov 19, 2021 18:02:46 GMT -5
To be fair Morrison and Ryker weren't doing much. It wasn't Morrison's fault that the Miz went on Dancing with the Stars. They were about to start a program |
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Post by Matt Culture on Nov 19, 2021 18:21:40 GMT -5
Mattel can we please hurry up and just get a Shotzi, Indi, Xia, Alliyah, Doudrop, GiGi, and Jacey out please
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Post by Vamp55 on Nov 19, 2021 18:21:47 GMT -5
Um, losing your job means exactly that, you LOST your income. Sure, there are other streams of income, but you don’t get paid (income) if you don’t have a job - and while there maybe unemployment benefits available, they won’t be equivalent, hence LOSS of income. They are still getting paid until thier no compete clause are 100% done. They’d be getting there base salary yes, but merch, show and other forms of income generated through being active stop. Not to mention in 90 days they are unemployed with NO income. Why is this so hard for people to understand. Back on topic, sucks for these people who have been cut and lost their jobs, hopefully they find other avenues to pursue their careers. I read there are still 90+ males and nearly 40 females on the roster. End the brand spilt and they could probably go even harder with the cuts. Guess it truely is a business… |
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Post by coldblooded on Nov 19, 2021 18:45:13 GMT -5
They are still getting paid until thier no compete clause are 100% done. They’d be getting there base salary yes, but merch, show and other forms of income generated through being active stop. Not to mention in 90 days they are unemployed with income. Why is this so hard for people to understand. Back on topic, sucks for these people who have been cut and lost their jobs, hopefully they find other avenues to pursue their careers. I read there are still 90+ males and nearly 40 females on the roster. End the brand spilt and they could probably go even harder with the cuts. Guess it truely is a business… I have no argument this, you said loss of income, which is what I was referring to. By default they still have an income. Merch sales or not. |
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Nov 19, 2021 19:01:21 GMT -5
If this means more spots for potentially more Macho and Warrior have opened up in future waves then I’m all for these cuts. Get rid of all the bloat so more proven stars can get made. There’s already too many of Warrior and Savage |
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