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Post by jason88cubs on Nov 24, 2021 12:14:48 GMT -5
OUCH
Wonder why the change?
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Post by Alexarules16 on Nov 24, 2021 12:58:41 GMT -5
Geez, no wonder he had back issues.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 24, 2021 13:13:25 GMT -5
That looked rough for everyone involved in those clips!
It's like Taker had zero idea how to do the tombstone correctly and nobody taught him how.
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Post by The Brain on Nov 24, 2021 14:33:32 GMT -5
Stick the fork in those ham n eggers.They're done
But hey at least they got a free ride to the back when they were put in the body bag!
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Post by MKSavage on Nov 24, 2021 21:14:24 GMT -5
Eesh! Those looked rough. Seems like Taker didn't know how to apply it and the jobbers didn't know how to take it. No wonder why Hogan was worried.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 24, 2021 23:43:45 GMT -5
That compilation is awful, it looks like half of them-the men's heads go into the mat hard and the last guy's head looks like it snaps.
He really didn't support Koko much at the Survivor Series and you can see Koko holding on to Taker's back legs. Then Taker basically lifts him up and dumps him like a sack of potatoes and Koko has to slink his neck out of place or otherwise it may get broken. To me, this compilation shows a total lack of respect by Taker. And also lack of proper training if he can't do the move without potentially hurting someone. And he had been wrestling a few years at that point, he should have known better.
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Post by Evil Abed on Nov 25, 2021 0:08:01 GMT -5
There’s no way that last guy didnt absolutely snap his neck.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Nov 25, 2021 3:36:15 GMT -5
Scrub a dub dub. Job a dabba do. That's the life of a job guy in the classic era. The stars have their way with them then plant them in the ground for the finish. Hot dog, handshake & three fiddy at the pay window.
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Post by Scott! on Nov 25, 2021 9:46:20 GMT -5
Ouch! I seen this yesterday, they look rough as hell. Thank god he actually supported the guy's heads, because if he'd been doing that for 30 years then there'd be a lot of broken necks.
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Nov 25, 2021 10:43:50 GMT -5
those were brtual. i broke my neck as a kid doing a back flip in a moon walk thing and whenever i watch these its makes me cringe a bit. rick rude's finisher hurt a few people back in the day as well.
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Post by alanpartridge on Nov 25, 2021 11:00:18 GMT -5
How much money did those jobbers get paid lol. A hot dog and a handshake.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 25, 2021 12:36:03 GMT -5
How much money did those jobbers get paid lol. A hot dog and a handshake.
They actually got paid more than the WWF stars at the TV tapings.
Don Muraco tells a story of how he saw Roddy Piper give his $50 he got for the TV taping to the job guy he wrestled. And Muraco was like, "Piper, that guy got $300 and you got $50, why are you doing that??" And Piper said, "because that's the only money he's getting, we go out and wrestle at house shows for the next 21 days, he goes home and waits for his next booking." So Muraco would start paying the job guys he wrestled too.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 26, 2021 18:07:06 GMT -5
Them 80’s/90s jobbers man…..oof.
It was a thankless job
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Nov 28, 2021 16:21:04 GMT -5
Tough to watch. These are just insanely reckless and the way he used to trap their one arm makes it look even more hard for the opponent to protect himself. Undertaker was obviously still very young and green so it is easy to blame him, but I think you have to point the finger at management for allowing him to continue doing the move when it was obvious that they were narrowly avoiding significant injury/potential lawsuit every time he did it.
Interesting as well because Undertaker debuted at the 1990 Survivor Series and the infamous Chuck Austin/Rockers incident happened only a few weeks later in December. I find it difficult to believe that after such a horrible accident that left a man paralyzed they would continue to let Taker perform this move where it looks like there is a 50/50 chance the guy receiving it is going to get his neck broken.
By 1992, it seemed like he had perfected the move and was able to perform it regularly in a way that best protected his opponent. And as soon as that happened, he was booked for several years against guys who were so big and massive that he rarely even used the move at all. Still, these early Tombstones are absolutely brutal.
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 29, 2021 0:16:04 GMT -5
Some weren't that bad. Taker was putting a lot more impact on them but their heads were still missing the mat. That last one may have botched though.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Nov 29, 2021 0:32:15 GMT -5
Not as bad as it looks. His exaggerated movements make it look worse than it actually is, going up on his toes, leaning in etc. Their heads are still not connecting with the mat most of the time.
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