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Post by Chicago on Jan 19, 2022 18:41:16 GMT -5
Not really sure where being a fan of something equates to expressing blind loyalty. It’s fine if you have your own personal preferences. You can just say that and no one will disagree with you. But for those of us that do want to collect them, you go into it knowing that not everything will be exactly to your liking. It’s the best chance we have to own new figures in a style not unlike the ones we grew up loving. I have a great appreciation for all that it took to get us to this point. The day I take any of this for granted, I want someone to e-slap me across the face and remind me of how easily this all could have gone unfulfilled. I have no issue with anyone being fine with the price point, or wanting to collect these lines. My issue was with "everyone should be lining up to support Chella, ZST, JSD & even Super7". Fair enough. I agreed with his take, but in no way do I feel as if anyone should be obligated to buy from any, let alone EVERY, company. I definitely haven’t bought from them all, nor do I plan to do so (I will say that, even though I have no intention to collect them, I think Junk Shop Dog and the Major Bendies are the best products released thus far). I would love to collect most everything I see, but like you said, we all have to prioritize our spending on nonessential goods. |
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Post by stc13 on Jan 19, 2022 23:08:28 GMT -5
I think it’s when it gets to the $45 point That extra $5 makes a difference perception wise and if your talking about getting say 4 /5 figures in a set all of a sudden it’s an extra $20/$25 I do get it, but it almost seems like semantics at that point. Not that I'm not poo-pooing the value of money by any means, but I feel like it's more a sticker shock reaction than actually being able to afford the difference. Truth be told, taking opinions positive or negative on the people out of it, I think all these retro lines (Chella, Zombie, Major Pod Bendems) have been pretty fairly priced. Agreed with everything you said. But I'd add that fairly priced and priced appropriately for your market aren't the same thing. The biggest mistake a lot of companies make (talking just beyond toys) is coming in at a price point not in line with what buyers will pay. Obviously I don't have any skin in the game and these small companies do, so it's easy to armchair quarterback. But I think dropping the price point will end up being a very smart call. An added volume in sales can quickly make up for decrease in per unit margins. |
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Post by mrh on Jan 20, 2022 0:52:02 GMT -5
Yo! I've heard all the backlash (bca pun) about the price. I'm not looking to be defensive, just transparent: -the $44.99 price tag was always going to include free shipping to US customers (all items in our web shop & ebay shop have free shipping) -The majority of orders that come through our site have customers using a 10% off code, so if you live in the US & used the 10% off code, you would've received these for about $41 shipped. I've had to battle over this, but we've made some adjustments (without cutting corners). The price has been updated to $39.99 free shipping to US Customers, and if you know the discount codes for 10% you can save even more (potentially get the figure for $36 shipped plus sales tax). I don't want anyone to think BCW is some cash grab on nostalgia. This is a passion project for fans, by fans. I've been involved in the collecting community since 2001. This is my passion. Here's some more rational behind prices: -These figures are all going to be limited to 2000 pieces or less. -The costs of production behind series 1 exceed $100k -The BCW feature was expensive to develop/produce and include with series one. The reality is we can't start a Bone Crushing line and NOT include a Bone Crushing feature. -When other companies put these out at $4.99 (in 1998), they were re-using the same molds, often not even changing the costume color or updating the head. They were making 50,000+ units of the same action figure/same mold. -Generally when toy companies work with WWE or AEW, they pay a single license fee, and from there, the wrestling promotion pays royalties to talent. We have to sign license agreements individually with each of our talent and pay royalties directly. We started this from scratch, any expense that has come so far, we are paying for ourselves without having taken in a dime of pre-order funds. Again, the point of this post isn't to be defensive, just letting everyone know how we came to what we did. I want you all on board with this line so if you have any other questions feel free to ask!
For anyone who asks why people are so positive about Chella and not another company -- this response is all you need to know.
Frankly, it's made me want to buy a BCA to support them
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 20, 2022 1:40:01 GMT -5
As long as Chella doesn’t start posting pictures of himself wearing sleeveless tees with rubber gloves, he has my support,
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Post by romanthenewyorker on Jan 20, 2022 1:54:59 GMT -5
I said that people should be lining up for those companies because they’re taking initiative to give us the Wrestlers, details and Niche things those large companies won’t get a chance to tackle because of status quo.
My outlook is some wrestling enthusiasts out there are chucking thousands of dollars in both developments, royalties, original art works/marketing and sculpt just to fill some voids in wrestling figure collections that the majority sobbed over for years of a Jakks or Mattel to make but never did.
I feel Those independent companies deserve a little less flack until we see a physical product review etc.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 20, 2022 5:18:29 GMT -5
I want to support this line, but I hate the one figure up for pre-order at a time thing...It makes it cost so much more in shipping (to non-US customers) than it would be pre-ordering the entire series at once.
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Jan 20, 2022 7:20:13 GMT -5
I want to support this line, but I hate the one figure up for pre-order at a time thing...It makes it cost so much more in shipping (to non-US customers) than it would be pre-ordering the entire series at once. Yeah this has been one of my very few gripes with Chella |
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jan 20, 2022 9:16:04 GMT -5
I want to support this line, but I hate the one figure up for pre-order at a time thing...It makes it cost so much more in shipping (to non-US customers) than it would be pre-ordering the entire series at once. I understand where you're coming from! It makes total sense to not want to have to pay for shipping several times. Series 1 is going to be tough to push out all at once due to our up front costs, but I'm more optimistic series 2 will drop all at once or at least with several people at once if not the whole series! |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 20, 2022 10:05:51 GMT -5
I want to support this line, but I hate the one figure up for pre-order at a time thing...It makes it cost so much more in shipping (to non-US customers) than it would be pre-ordering the entire series at once. I understand where you're coming from! It makes total sense to not want to have to pay for shipping several times. Series 1 is going to be tough to push out all at once due to our up front costs, but I'm more optimistic series 2 will drop all at once or at least with several people at once if not the whole series! Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice if there was a 'pile of loot' type option, where you could purchase the figure up front, but have a window of time after it comes into stock to have it shipped. |
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Post by stc13 on Jan 20, 2022 11:50:51 GMT -5
I understand where you're coming from! It makes total sense to not want to have to pay for shipping several times. Series 1 is going to be tough to push out all at once due to our up front costs, but I'm more optimistic series 2 will drop all at once or at least with several people at once if not the whole series! Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice if there was a 'pile of loot' type option, where you could purchase the figure up front, but have a window of time after it comes into stock to have it shipped. Totally agreed, but from what I understand that requires some pretty complex and costly software upgrades that most smaller e-retailers just can't afford. Dorkside Toys, who is a pretty large seller for Hasbro lines, said they were looking into something like that and I believe it was a six figure upgrade that would have required a pretty big overhaul of their website and back end inventory management system because it had to be coded from scratch. |
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Post by newgenandy on Jan 20, 2022 13:14:27 GMT -5
I just think people need to get over it, I’ve paid individual shipping prices for rsc exclusives etc
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jan 20, 2022 16:02:28 GMT -5
I understand where you're coming from! It makes total sense to not want to have to pay for shipping several times. Series 1 is going to be tough to push out all at once due to our up front costs, but I'm more optimistic series 2 will drop all at once or at least with several people at once if not the whole series! Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice if there was a 'pile of loot' type option, where you could purchase the figure up front, but have a window of time after it comes into stock to have it shipped. How long of a window would you be thinking? Honestly it doesn't sound impossible, I'm sure we could figure it out. Want to maybe DM me with your ideas about it and I'll see if we can implement it? |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 20, 2022 16:34:08 GMT -5
Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice if there was a 'pile of loot' type option, where you could purchase the figure up front, but have a window of time after it comes into stock to have it shipped. Totally agreed, but from what I understand that requires some pretty complex and costly software upgrades that most smaller e-retailers just can't afford. Dorkside Toys, who is a pretty large seller for Hasbro lines, said they were looking into something like that and I believe it was a six figure upgrade that would have required a pretty big overhaul of their website and back end inventory management system because it had to be coded from scratch. Ah I see. I figured there might be some additional costs attached to a system like that, but wasn't sure. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 20, 2022 16:38:00 GMT -5
Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice if there was a 'pile of loot' type option, where you could purchase the figure up front, but have a window of time after it comes into stock to have it shipped. How long of a window would you be thinking? Honestly it doesn't sound impossible, I'm sure we could figure it out. Want to maybe DM me with your ideas about it and I'll see if we can implement it? This is what I was referring to, although according to stc13, it might not be possible for a smaller site due to additional costs involved, which is obviously understandable... www.bigbadtoystore.com/Help/PileOfLoot |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 20, 2022 16:45:14 GMT -5
I just think people need to get over it, I’ve paid individual shipping prices for rsc exclusives etc The thing is international shipping costs a lot more than shipping in the US. Shipping for 1 figure from that FC website is $32 (or $40 CAD), which is really hard to justify spending on multiple individual figures, unless money isn't a concern. |
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Post by newgenandy on Jan 20, 2022 16:53:39 GMT -5
I just think people need to get over it, I’ve paid individual shipping prices for rsc exclusives etc The thing is international shipping costs a lot more than shipping in the US. Shipping for 1 figure from that FC website is $32 (or $40 CAD), which is really hard to justify spending on multiple individual figures, unless money isn't a concern. I’m referring to international shipping. I’ve ordered RSC to the uk for exclusives etc |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 20, 2022 17:35:47 GMT -5
The thing is international shipping costs a lot more than shipping in the US. Shipping for 1 figure from that FC website is $32 (or $40 CAD), which is really hard to justify spending on multiple individual figures, unless money isn't a concern. I’m referring to international shipping. I’ve ordered RSC to the uk for exclusives etc Oh ok. How much does it cost? |
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Post by mrh on Jan 21, 2022 1:56:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that's understandable. It'd be nice if there was a 'pile of loot' type option, where you could purchase the figure up front, but have a window of time after it comes into stock to have it shipped. How long of a window would you be thinking? Honestly it doesn't sound impossible, I'm sure we could figure it out. Want to maybe DM me with your ideas about it and I'll see if we can implement it?
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Post by Chicago on Jan 22, 2022 0:21:54 GMT -5
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Jan 22, 2022 2:09:37 GMT -5
Are these going to be available to order directly from Chella for UK customers? I was under the impression this was the case (from interviews etc), but nothing has been mentioned about it in a while.
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