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Post by RuthlessFigs on Jan 17, 2022 20:30:52 GMT -5
It'd be cool to see an A-Train Elite, especially with how the body hair would look, but i really just want that Tensai Elite.
Such an underrated figure. Looks great with & without the entrance robe.
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Rattlehead
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Post by Rattlehead on Jan 17, 2022 21:31:08 GMT -5
We need a Test as well to make T & A lol. I agree but Trish was the T&A so we need her from that era haha
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Post by judas on Jan 18, 2022 1:06:51 GMT -5
An authority in your head only. What a load of nonsense and that says a lot when it’s one of your posts 😄 Sorry, I don’t remember you at all. Maybe your previous account name would ring a bell, but I can’t guarantee it. Talk about ego and delusions of grandeur, how long someone has been here is no reflection on their interactions. What a whopper. Anyway, I’d take an T&A and IC champ Albert with the black top. I didn’t start watching again until 2000 so Prince Albert doesn’t interest me nor does anything afterwards really.
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Post by banditman on Jan 18, 2022 5:42:54 GMT -5
I would kill for an Albert fig with the Intercontinental Title and long pants. Dude was beast
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Post by Warriah' on Jan 18, 2022 6:39:56 GMT -5
I'd love T&A.
I'd also love Test and Albert.
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Post by bige on Jan 18, 2022 7:00:23 GMT -5
Who doesn’t need a test
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Post by mikey on Jan 18, 2022 11:44:38 GMT -5
Because WWE ignores anyone from the Attitude-Ruthless Aggression Era's that weren't their top guys. That's why they keep rereleasing the same legends/throwbacks. They don't seem to think bigger. There's no reason we shouldn't have a lot of those wrestlers by now.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 18, 2022 13:41:39 GMT -5
Sorry, I don’t remember you at all. Maybe your previous account name would ring a bell, but I can’t guarantee it. Talk about ego and delusions of grandeur, how long someone has been here is no reflection on their interactions. That depends on why they stopped using their previous account.
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Post by judas on Jan 18, 2022 14:53:52 GMT -5
Talk about ego and delusions of grandeur, how long someone has been here is no reflection on their interactions. That depends on why they stopped using their previous account. Edit: CBA derailing the thread. Enjoy being you you great big miserable weirdo 👍😄
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Post by PJ on Jan 18, 2022 15:18:31 GMT -5
Me. I don’t want or need a Test. If it wasn’t for the fact he was the guy in the ring when Triple H interrupted the wedding ceremony I wouldn’t remember a thing about his wrestling career. He just never impressed me. But I do hope he gets made for those who do want him. But for me the R3 I have is all I will ever need if I decide to display him on my shelves.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jan 18, 2022 15:22:51 GMT -5
I’d actually want an RA/ECW Test. Actually, I’d prefer his ECW look. It was awesome.
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Post by newgenandy on Jan 18, 2022 15:38:02 GMT -5
The only thing I can think of is that his current contract doesn't cover merch. It's a damn shame, because I'd love an Elite A-Train. He's had cards, which are covered under the merch deal. Yes, there are some oddball exceptions where performers are available for X but not Y. But I'd shocked if he's the kind of guy you make an exception for. Maybe they haven't been able to find a spot for him, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him as one of the new Legends in 2022. There are some other names - The Goon, Chief Jay Strongbow - who have been under deals for years too, and are just getting figures now. I just don't think it's a huge priority for either WWE or Mattel compared to bigger name talent. And with the CE program going away, it'll be interesting to see how those types are handled going forward. I wouldn’t read too much into cards meaning merch deal Cards go into the hundreds and while you get multiples of the big stars you need a lot of talent. Also someone doesn’t carry a card pack like they do a figure snd there’s a big cost difference An Albert card in a pack of 6 for $1 for someone trying to get a set is zero risk An Albert figure where he is the sole reason to buy and retails at $10+ is a bigger investment I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s levels in the merch deals we don’t know about and they may have a ‘mini license’ to allow things like cards, stickers, references in books etc
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Post by Ruthless Attitude on Jan 18, 2022 15:55:55 GMT -5
A-Train had a memorable toyetic look, used to get big reactions ("shave your back!"), and he was one of the victims of The Streak. Assuming he is available, he should absolutely be in the line. If The Goon deserves Elite treatment, A-Train certainly does.
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Post by stc13 on Jan 18, 2022 22:41:53 GMT -5
He's had cards, which are covered under the merch deal. Yes, there are some oddball exceptions where performers are available for X but not Y. But I'd shocked if he's the kind of guy you make an exception for. Maybe they haven't been able to find a spot for him, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him as one of the new Legends in 2022. There are some other names - The Goon, Chief Jay Strongbow - who have been under deals for years too, and are just getting figures now. I just don't think it's a huge priority for either WWE or Mattel compared to bigger name talent. And with the CE program going away, it'll be interesting to see how those types are handled going forward. I wouldn’t read too much into cards meaning merch deal Cards go into the hundreds and while you get multiples of the big stars you need a lot of talent. Also someone doesn’t carry a card pack like they do a figure snd there’s a big cost difference An Albert card in a pack of 6 for $1 for someone trying to get a set is zero risk An Albert figure where he is the sole reason to buy and retails at $10+ is a bigger investment I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s levels in the merch deals we don’t know about and they may have a ‘mini license’ to allow things like cards, stickers, references in books etc It's not a matter of reading into things. I've been in the card industry for a long time as a dealer and discussed it someone who handles licensing for Topps at a trade show. They confirmed that they don't do outside deals, and work from WWE-contracted talent rosters. A lot of legends contracts are in the public domain (lawsuits), and for lower level talent they're pretty standard. Are there some exceptions that have limited contracts or are restricted by pre-existing deals (ie Hogan when he was still under figure contract with Storm but had other WWE merch)? I'm sure there are. But for 95% of folks signed, it's likely a blanket deal that is going to cover a wide range of merch. Turnaround time and cost of production is much lower on things like cards, so we've seen folks like The Goon, Chyna, Strongbow, Paul Orndorff post-lawsuit show up there in some cases years before Mattel made a figure. Like you said - they can throw Albert into a card set and it makes zero functional difference in sales whether they included him or say The Hurricane. For Mattel, releasing an Albert figure would require tooling a head, design team time, etc, and then they rely on consumers wanting that specific figure, and balancing whether Albert would sell better than The Hurricane, or a 500th Warrior figure. It's not apples to apples. But there's also no added risk to WWE for merch deals to be wide reaching - talent are paid a modest advance and then a percentage on merch sales after that advance is reached. It's just a question of which talent from that pool specific licensees use. Looking at video game or trading card rosters isn't gospel. But it can give a pretty good idea which way the wind is blowing.
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jan 18, 2022 23:27:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a Prince Albert in a singlet with the hairy back. That was my favorite attire of his.
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Post by drjay312 on Jan 19, 2022 0:05:38 GMT -5
Everybody wants to forget his wrestling days. He was one of the worst ever. He’s redeemed himself as a coach, and bringing up the A-Train days only undermines his credibility. What are you talking about? During his run, Albert (a.k.a. Matt Bloom) was one of the most safe, reliable, and well-traveled hands that Vince had. From being Giant Bernard over in Japan to being a big guy in the US who could work, Albert was great for his time even if he never got past the midcard. In fact, part of the reason that he’s such a good trainer is because he has the fundamentals down and has the personality to make it work when training the younger guys. He’s a stable, if not predictable hand to have around. Just the fact that he’s been in the business this long should tell you all you need to know, since big guys who don’t have the fundamentals down are usually pretty shorted-lived when it comes to their careers. Albert isn’t that. I’d love to have a figure of him just so that there’s another big menace type character in my collection.
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Post by pickle on Jan 19, 2022 1:01:55 GMT -5
Cause for some reason society is still stuck in mid-90s nostalgia mode.
It'll be a long while before they start trying to sell plastic nostalgia for the ruthless aggression era, and even then, I'm not sure the kids who grew up in the early 2000s are as passionate about buying their childhood icons as 80s and 90s kids are. Might be generational.
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Post by newgenandy on Jan 19, 2022 2:11:00 GMT -5
I wouldn’t read too much into cards meaning merch deal Cards go into the hundreds and while you get multiples of the big stars you need a lot of talent. Also someone doesn’t carry a card pack like they do a figure snd there’s a big cost difference An Albert card in a pack of 6 for $1 for someone trying to get a set is zero risk An Albert figure where he is the sole reason to buy and retails at $10+ is a bigger investment I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s levels in the merch deals we don’t know about and they may have a ‘mini license’ to allow things like cards, stickers, references in books etc It's not a matter of reading into things. I've been in the card industry for a long time as a dealer and discussed it someone who handles licensing for Topps at a trade show. They confirmed that they don't do outside deals, and work from WWE-contracted talent rosters. A lot of legends contracts are in the public domain (lawsuits), and for lower level talent they're pretty standard. Are there some exceptions that have limited contracts or are restricted by pre-existing deals (ie Hogan when he was still under figure contract with Storm but had other WWE merch)? I'm sure there are. But for 95% of folks signed, it's likely a blanket deal that is going to cover a wide range of merch. Turnaround time and cost of production is much lower on things like cards, so we've seen folks like The Goon, Chyna, Strongbow, Paul Orndorff post-lawsuit show up there in some cases years before Mattel made a figure. Like you said - they can throw Albert into a card set and it makes zero functional difference in sales whether they included him or say The Hurricane. For Mattel, releasing an Albert figure would require tooling a head, design team time, etc, and then they rely on consumers wanting that specific figure, and balancing whether Albert would sell better than The Hurricane, or a 500th Warrior figure. It's not apples to apples. But there's also no added risk to WWE for merch deals to be wide reaching - talent are paid a modest advance and then a percentage on merch sales after that advance is reached. It's just a question of which talent from that pool specific licensees use. Looking at video game or trading card rosters isn't gospel. But it can give a pretty good idea which way the wind is blowing. I was going on the principle of what Steve has said before when prople have referenced legends in games snd he has said game appearance doesn’t = available to mattel so I assume there’s levels of contracts?
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 25, 2022 19:59:33 GMT -5
Didn’t he have another figure besides the Tensai? No.
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Post by LA Knight Yeah! on Jan 25, 2022 20:19:55 GMT -5
Would love an x-factor Albert with IC title
2001 Test
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