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Post by TWJT on Feb 8, 2022 14:13:05 GMT -5
...years before, or 22 years after?
Was the WWF in 2000 more like the WWWF in 1978 or the WWE in 2022?
I've always been fascinated by the passing of time, and changes. Probably have asked a question like this before, maybe without videos.
Was the new millennium, 2000, closer to 22 years before - 1978 - or 22 years after, 2022? This goes for feel, match-style, storytelling-style, presentation, philosophies about who should lead the company forward, etc., etc.
1978:
2000:
2022:
I would say 2000 is more like 2022. Even with the radical social media, graphics, and technological changes, WWF was still national in both cases, touring, featured intricate stages, was publicly-traded, etc. It may seem obvious that 2022 will win, but who knows? Maybe to some - because there were still lots of agents and workers left from the territory era - 2000 was still more like 1978 than 2022. Some of the "non-PC" elements of our culture in general, from the late '70s, were still present in 2000, and could be noticed in the WWF's programming. Overall the company wasn't as obsessed with a "perfect public image" in 1978 or 2000 as it is in 2022. In 1978 you saw it more with stereotyped national and racial images (especially with heels), and in 2000 (with the Attitude Era), the non-PC elements (for today's standards) may have had more to do with content that sexualized women and gender inequality; either way, however, one could argue the content was far less regulated during those periods of the past (whether that's a bad or good thing is up to you). So though 2022 is probably "the favorite," I think an argument could definitely be made that 2000 was still more like '78 in many ways.
To you, was the new millennium in the WWF more like 22 years before or 22 years after?
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Feb 8, 2022 17:44:37 GMT -5
The pre everyone has a cell phone with internet connection era was just so much better in everyway. Especially the pre cell phone era. People were more trustworthy. TV was better. People lived in the moment more. I wish there was a time machine. I'd go back there & never return.
I don't live in the past because that's physically not possible. But I wish I could. Even if I could just rent a room there one night a week. That sounds like an idea. Here's to the good times.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Feb 8, 2022 19:01:41 GMT -5
I don’t know the last 22. I called it quits in 00 and I only care to relive the older era
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Post by PJ on Feb 8, 2022 22:29:31 GMT -5
Seriously I am so tempted to just lock this as this is just another attempt to talk modern wrestling on the Classic board. 2000 wrestling like the 70’s and 80’s was for the most part shows were 90-95% watchable. Now I am lucky if I can can be entertained enough to actually sit through two matches per show (RAW & SD)
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Post by robbutler01 on Feb 9, 2022 2:20:44 GMT -5
Seriously I am so tempted to just lock this as this is just another attempt to talk modern wrestling on the Classic board. 2000 wrestling like the 70’s and 80’s was for the most part shows were 90-95% watchable. Now I am lucky if I can can be entertained enough to actually sit through two matches per show (RAW & SD) Please lock it. This board is constantly full of new topic posts and references and I'm sure it's getting massively off-putting to many other classic board fans like it is to me.
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Post by TWJT on Feb 9, 2022 8:14:25 GMT -5
Seriously I am so tempted to just lock this as this is just another attempt to talk modern wrestling on the Classic board. 2000 wrestling like the 70’s and 80’s was for the most part shows were 90-95% watchable. Now I am lucky if I can can be entertained enough to actually sit through two matches per show (RAW & SD) I hear ya. I wasn't really sure where to put it, because it deals with the past and present. Where do threads go that deal with both concepts? If it needs to be locked, it's totally understandable.
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Post by PJ on Feb 9, 2022 9:59:17 GMT -5
I would say the modern board because would work for comparing both eras.
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Feb 9, 2022 13:35:08 GMT -5
i think it should stayed open until there’s nothing left to contribute. buuuut it mentions modern wrestling, so obviously you’re going to lock it anyway.
that being said, i feel like 2000 was closer to earlier times. it’s just dull and unimaginative now. the boundaries just aren’t pushed anymore, for obvious reasons(hope that wasn’t too much mention of modern times, i know how uselessly strict you are about that)
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Post by The Real Chillary on Feb 9, 2022 13:55:55 GMT -5
Seriously I am so tempted to just lock this as this is just another attempt to talk modern wrestling on the Classic board. 2000 wrestling like the 70’s and 80’s was for the most part shows were 90-95% watchable. Now I am lucky if I can can be entertained enough to actually sit through two matches per show (RAW & SD) Please lock it. This board is constantly full of new topic posts and references and I'm sure it's getting massively off-putting to many other classic board fans like it is to me. It's a public forum, lmao the entitlement.
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Post by Retrospect on Feb 9, 2022 15:10:51 GMT -5
Ehhh, it’s kinda a classic and modern topic. I get where y’all are coming from tho. With that said I’d say that 2000 and 2022 are more similar than 1978 and 2000 just because 78 still had that territory feel to it. At least that’s how it feels to me (I wasn’t alive for it). 2000 if I’m not mistaken was right after the company went public and it had a very modern feel to it. The shows from that time still hold up too. 78 just felt like wrasslin’ to me.
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Post by PJ on Feb 10, 2022 6:15:31 GMT -5
i think it should stayed open until there’s nothing left to contribute. buuuut it mentions modern wrestling, so obviously you’re going to lock it anyway. that being said, i feel like 2000 was closer to earlier times. it’s just dull and unimaginative now. the boundaries just aren’t pushed anymore, for obvious reasons(hope that wasn’t too much mention of modern times, i know how uselessly strict you are about that) Obviously. Because I have locked so many threads. Other than a 12 year old post that was bumped in January and a thread that has nothing to do with wrestling (let alone classic wrestling) and an occasional fighting thread I haven’t locked anything in ages. And there’s been a ton of threads with modern talk in them. Hell in the last 16 pages I locked one thread for not being classic wrestling, two or three for fighting and two for bumping years old threads. There’s a few more threads that were lock, but not by me. Because if I locked them I would have been the last post saying I was locking it. But yeah I lock everything. The last thread I locked for being modern was 8/7/18 on page 24. But The Real Chillary is right it’s a public forum. So with that said they should just do away with every sub board on the site and just let people post about whatever they like on the one board.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Feb 10, 2022 9:19:47 GMT -5
1978 was nothing like 2000.
2000 is still more connected to right now though with some things, including some active wrestlers. I mean, Edge is wrestling right now in the year 2022 in the WWE and in 2000 was already a former IC Champion and was about to win the WWE Tag Titles at Wrestlemania 2000.
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Post by robbutler01 on Feb 10, 2022 11:41:01 GMT -5
Please lock it. This board is constantly full of new topic posts and references and I'm sure it's getting massively off-putting to many other classic board fans like it is to me. It's a public forum, lmao the entitlement. Public forum which has sub boards for specific subjects like classic topics, separate feds, figures etc . Based on the way the boards are set up I wouldn't expect to see posts about wwf ljn figures in the aew section so why shouldn't I say I don't want to see current wwe discussion in the classic board? Shall we slso discuss what shopping we bought or where we are going on holiday in the wwe section? Plus a topic might get little response if it's in the wrong place with the wrong audience as a result. Sorry if my opinion doesn't match urs tho but that's why we all comment isnt it lol
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Feb 10, 2022 20:01:31 GMT -5
A bait thread posted praising Moolah has remained live on the first page of the Sports board for the last 9 months. So it seems the rigidity of on-topic discussions isn't uniform across the forum.
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Post by PJ on Feb 10, 2022 20:52:06 GMT -5
A bait thread posted praising Moolah has remained live on the first page of the Sports board for the last 9 months. So it seems the rigidity of on-topic discussions isn't uniform across the forum. In fairness pretty much the only topics there that have traffic for more than one day are the stickied ones. So why bother locking it if there’s no fighting/trolling in it. The thread was dead within 24 hours. As you said it’s still on the first page for 9 months and there’s been no activity in it for the same 9 months so clearly only the stickied posts are getting the daily traffic.
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