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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 16, 2022 10:33:56 GMT -5
There's an online store, that has repeatedly stated that exclusive lines like Legends are not offered to UK stores - and never have been.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 16, 2022 11:20:13 GMT -5
There's an online store, that has repeatedly stated that exclusive lines like Legends are not offered to UK stores - and never have been. I’d be interested to know which one if it’s not against rules to say (given RSC is an online seller they may not want others discussed) But I would say I’ve spoken in the past few days to arguably the biggest uk online retailer (who have had live events, one with Bill there) and they have had quite a few exclusive lines in. Those they haven’t were open to them but the min order quantity was too high. So I would say the are available, which is what steve also says, as long as they will meet the min quantities.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Feb 16, 2022 11:30:03 GMT -5
There's an online store, that has repeatedly stated that exclusive lines like Legends are not offered to UK stores - and never have been. I’d be interested to know which one if it’s not against rules to say (given RSC is an online seller they may not want others discussed) But I would say I’ve spoken in the past few days to arguably the biggest uk online retailer (who have had live events, one with Bill there) and they have had quite a few exclusive lines in. Those they haven’t were open to them but the min order quantity was too high. So I would say the are available, which is what steve also says, as long as they will meet the min quantities. This is accurate.
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Post by ajay182 on Feb 16, 2022 14:05:34 GMT -5
There's an online store, that has repeatedly stated that exclusive lines like Legends are not offered to UK stores - and never have been. I’d be interested to know which one if it’s not against rules to say (given RSC is an online seller they may not want others discussed) But I would say I’ve spoken in the past few days to arguably the biggest uk online retailer (who have had live events, one with Bill there) and they have had quite a few exclusive lines in. Those they haven’t were open to them but the min order quantity was too high. So I would say the are available, which is what steve also says, as long as they will meet the min quantities. This broadly makes sense - but just from a pure business development perspective (and given how much Mattel does for individual US retailers), surely there must be some middle ground struck, for the sake of getting your product into more markets and cultivating stronger retailer relationships. A simple one that I've been privy to a dozen times is where the min order quantity is slightly reduced as a "trial". Should the product sell-through, then the retailer is on the hook to meet the original min quantity for future orders. Generally speaking, when I've worked for FMCG companies, this is how it goes with retailer partnerships - give a little, get a little.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 16, 2022 14:14:11 GMT -5
I’d be interested to know which one if it’s not against rules to say (given RSC is an online seller they may not want others discussed) But I would say I’ve spoken in the past few days to arguably the biggest uk online retailer (who have had live events, one with Bill there) and they have had quite a few exclusive lines in. Those they haven’t were open to them but the min order quantity was too high. So I would say the are available, which is what steve also says, as long as they will meet the min quantities. This broadly makes sense - but just from a pure business development perspective (and given how much Mattel does for individual US retailers), surely there must be some middle ground struck, for the sake of getting your product into more markets and cultivating stronger retailer relationships. A simple one that I've been privy to a dozen times is where the min order quantity is slightly reduced as a "trial". Should the product sell-through, then the retailer is on the hook to meet the original min quantity for future orders. Generally speaking, when I've worked for FMCG companies, this is how it goes with retailer partnerships - give a little, get a little. It simply comes down to fanbase - in the states there’s the fanbase to have lots of exclusives in different shops Wrestling as a whole has gone down in popularity over here. Wwe historically did tours post mania snd post survivor series hitting about 12 cities A couple tours ago pre covid they reduced that massively taking off Birmingham as an example snd did 6 or 8 cities. Tesco have the odd top picks or whatever that basic series is called but that’s about it. Yet they carry lots of marvel etc because that’s popular at the moment Sadly I can only see the popularity going down
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Post by eddiep on Feb 16, 2022 15:18:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know roughly what the minimum order is? And what the cost per figure is? My guess is 10,000 units per wave at £10 GBP. A well known UK Wrestling shop online told me that the minimum order was larger than the entire UK market would purchase.
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Post by skogen on Feb 16, 2022 15:33:28 GMT -5
I'd be happy to buy more from RSC but the shipping is just too big of a hit especially when the import fees add that into the calculation.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 16, 2022 16:09:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know roughly what the minimum order is? And what the cost per figure is? My guess is 10,000 units per wave at £10 GBP. A well known UK Wrestling shop online told me that the minimum order was larger than the entire UK market would purchase. This is the thing I think we miss sometimes living in the bubble of our fandom Wrestling popularity has gone down. Wrestling fig collectors are a smaller sub set of that. From my brother, colleagues at work, friends etc around a similar age (now mid 30s to mid 40s) I hear the same story: as kids got into the end of the golden era as sky sports become big here in the uk and especially around summer slam 92, drifted off in the new gen era, come back in the attitude era, then into the end of attitude and into ruthless aggression wouldn’t follow it close but would watch it after coming home from the pub or uni bar etc. Nowadays they’ll watch if nothing else is in it if bored. It’s a very passive hobby. The people around that age, mid 30s to mid 40s are the people with disposable income to buy figures and collectibles and that key market is being missed over here. Not due to mattel but lack of interest in the product.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 16, 2022 16:10:36 GMT -5
I'd be happy to buy more from RSC but the shipping is just too big of a hit especially when the import fees add that into the calculation. I haven’t bought anything from abroad since brexit but I’ve heard horror stories of import costs snd admin costs etc
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Post by ajay182 on Feb 16, 2022 16:41:20 GMT -5
Does anyone know roughly what the minimum order is? And what the cost per figure is? My guess is 10,000 units per wave at £10 GBP. A well known UK Wrestling shop online told me that the minimum order was larger than the entire UK market would purchase. Your estimate seems pretty reasonable - and this is sort of my point above. If, as a "trial period", that minimum order was dropped and these things were actually on shelves, there'd at least be a more accurate read on what the true demand is. Even if only for 1 or 2 lines. As it stands, there's no way to actually estimate demand as the stuff is either unavailable or significantly more expensive than it should be.
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Post by Rob7274 on Feb 16, 2022 17:28:19 GMT -5
Smyths has become a right off to me as there not getting full elite series in.
I’ve had to go to websites to start getting figures now.
But Ultimate Editions that aren’t Amazon exclusives and Legends are either Ringside or EBay……and you have to pay delivery and customs on top of that. It’s a very very expensive hobby now and Mattel doesn’t seem to be interested in fixing it for the UK fans.
If I was anyone on here I’d try to hit up the kind offer from TaserFace (not sure if the systems changed on here with references etc…) Got mine off EBay as a full set….it hurt the wallet.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 16, 2022 17:36:12 GMT -5
I really miss Wrestlingworld. They used to get in all the exclusives.
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Post by breal59 on Feb 16, 2022 17:49:46 GMT -5
When it comes to getting Ultimates and other exclusives, the costs from the small buisness websites are so high that it is cheaper getting it from Ringside. In my experiences anyway. Yes, it is a very expensive hobby, and you feel that it really doesent have to be as an expensive hobbie as it is. And you see these YouTube toy review channels and toy room tours, and in some way you feel a bit of frustration because if the prices here were equal, I would have alot of toys like these YouTube toy channels as them also.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 17, 2022 12:56:36 GMT -5
Does anyone know roughly what the minimum order is? And what the cost per figure is? My guess is 10,000 units per wave at £10 GBP. A well known UK Wrestling shop online told me that the minimum order was larger than the entire UK market would purchase. Your estimate seems pretty reasonable - and this is sort of my point above. If, as a "trial period", that minimum order was dropped and these things were actually on shelves, there'd at least be a more accurate read on what the true demand is. Even if only for 1 or 2 lines. As it stands, there's no way to actually estimate demand as the stuff is either unavailable or significantly more expensive than it should be. It’s more complex than that I think - they offer it for one line etc then they have set an expectation because some do more than just wrestling figures Also as a business I expect it’s not paid up front but shipped out by mattel at their cost then invoiced to the retailer. Mattel want to make it worth their while It’s fairly common in a lot of businesses to have min order quantities - Including wholesaling records and CDs etc
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Post by Stevie H on Feb 17, 2022 21:03:55 GMT -5
I’d be interested to know which one if it’s not against rules to say (given RSC is an online seller they may not want others discussed) But I would say I’ve spoken in the past few days to arguably the biggest uk online retailer (who have had live events, one with Bill there) and they have had quite a few exclusive lines in. Those they haven’t were open to them but the min order quantity was too high. So I would say the are available, which is what steve also says, as long as they will meet the min quantities. This is accurate. Can't Mattel Creations sell them to non USA buyers? I'm happy to pay a bit extra on shipping. The scalper game on Ebay is a joke.
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Post by peterjp2 on Feb 18, 2022 12:54:48 GMT -5
Dark days for collecting in Canada also. Mattel is making some great figures but you have to jump through so many hoops to get them. Basically I have to rely on the eBay scalpers. It’s really too bad that Mattel doesn’t sell every figure they make on their own website and ship worldwide. It seems to me there is money to be made there. They could even make their own exclusives and make them available to everyone. I would love this. Mattel used to sell some elites on their website but that was many years ago. Agreed with both of you. It boggles my mind that Mattel has a head office in Canada but not a site that sells anything. The fact that the TRU and Walmart ca websites are no where near updated is also beyond me. Heck, Amazon isn't even all that great on our end for figures and over priced when something does pop up. We are so close and yet so far. Doesn't help though reading that US collectors aren't finding the same stock everywhere.
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Post by vandamin8or on Feb 18, 2022 14:45:51 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be great if Mattel made a store site like WWE Euroshop and sold all their WWE products on there from the UK, where we paid retail price and regular postage?
Would they not make more money by selling directly to the customer and cutting out the middle men? They do it with some things on their Mattel Creations site, so why not?
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Post by skogen on Feb 18, 2022 16:49:21 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be great if Mattel made a store site like WWE Euroshop and sold all their WWE products on there from the UK, where we paid retail price and regular postage? Would they not make more money by selling directly to the customer and cutting out the middle men? They do it with some things on their Mattel Creations site, so why not? Can't understand why they don't. Seems like they're leaving a lot of money on the table.
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Post by newgenandy on Feb 18, 2022 16:56:39 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be great if Mattel made a store site like WWE Euroshop and sold all their WWE products on there from the UK, where we paid retail price and regular postage? Would they not make more money by selling directly to the customer and cutting out the middle men? They do it with some things on their Mattel Creations site, so why not? Can't understand why they don't. Seems like they're leaving a lot of money on the table. The operational cost of setting it up, systems, delivery processes to be set up, qa aspects - mattel are a huge corporation they won’t just get Pete in it to set up a page on their site and post the stuff out
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Post by bige on Feb 18, 2022 19:13:11 GMT -5
Ya should see Australia
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