TWJT
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Post by TWJT on Mar 2, 2022 8:00:06 GMT -5
Anyone know if WWE talents have to pay for their own airfare and hotel rooms? I would think if you were a referee, making presumably a couple hundred thousand a year but not much more, it would be super hard to also then cover your own hotel rooms, airfare, AND insurance. Without being a top talent with seven figures coming in plus merch, I wonder if being a WWE talent is all that glamorous. At the end of the day, though, it's still a dream to be in the WWE and have global exposure. And of course, maybe hotel and airfare are covered. Anyone know if the E takes care of these expenses for talents?
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 2, 2022 9:20:17 GMT -5
Last I heard from guys in shoots, airfare is paid for by wwe. Hotels are paid for when they need them specific places for periods of time like mania, Summerslam, extended stays. But other than that they are responsible for accommodations.
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Post by โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ on Mar 2, 2022 11:30:41 GMT -5
Airfare is always covered by WWE. Hotels for big event weekends (WM, SummerSlam, international tours, Saudi show, etc.) are paid by the company. Things like car rentals, hotel stays, food outside of catering all come out of the talent's pocket. That's why you often here about people becoming buddies on the road. They'll split the cost of a hotel room and a rental car with a few others guys and get into a rhythm of doing it every night.
I'd assume most wrestlers try to get a good group going. Unless you're making really good money with the company, I could imagine these expenses would eat up a ton of your income if you did it on your own. A lot of referees all travel and board together. I think this was eventually even the basis of that WWE Network road trip show they did.
Some major stars get it written into their deals that they get first class airfare paid. I think HBK was famously disliked because he was one of the first people to do it, and it rubbed a lot of talent the wrong way that he was upgraded all the time. I think some really big names have it in their contract that they nice hotel stays paid for by the company. I believe Big Show had that on one of his deals before he left WWE.
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Post by Next Manโs Knowing Rock on Mar 3, 2022 11:33:53 GMT -5
As covered above, all flights are paid for. Generally, hotels and ground transportation arenโt covered by the company, except in certain circumstances eg international tours. Some of the top names can negotiate this kind of stuff. Randy Orton and AJ Styles, amongst others, have leased their own luxury tour buses that are paid for (or at least subsidised) by WWE.
I donโt know if this still happens with the newer generation but old-school wrestlers would find real cheapskate ways to save on road costs by having six people sharing a $20 hotel room, or in the cases of Mick Foley and Owen Hart, just staying at fans houses for free.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 4, 2022 11:32:55 GMT -5
Could someone answer this? Why arenโt WWE wrestlers compensated as much as other athletes when theyโre on the road 24/7? I canโt imagine having to book hotels/flights etc while also focusing on working out, eating right, getting enough sleep, keeping your mental state right and not seeing your family and then also focusing on your matches as well. Seems like a lot of work no pun intended. Also, heard that they donโt get retirement/medical insurance.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 4, 2022 15:07:09 GMT -5
Could someone answer this? Why arenโt WWE wrestlers compensated as much as other athletes when theyโre on the road 24/7? I canโt imagine having to book hotels/flights etc while also focusing on working out, eating right, getting enough sleep, keeping your mental state right and not seeing your family and then also focusing on your matches as well. Seems like a lot of work no pun intended. Also, heard that they donโt get retirement/medical insurance. They don't have a union to fight for them in negotiations. All negotiations are handled one-on-one, and if the wrestler doesn't bring an agent, then he/she probably doesn't get a good deal. My question is, wouldn't most of the rental cars, airfare, hotel expenses (minus mini bars and meals), be tax deductible? I mean they need this stuff for work. If they are driving across the country too, the gas would be deductible as well. Right?
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 4, 2022 15:22:56 GMT -5
Could someone answer this? Why arenโt WWE wrestlers compensated as much as other athletes when theyโre on the road 24/7? I canโt imagine having to book hotels/flights etc while also focusing on working out, eating right, getting enough sleep, keeping your mental state right and not seeing your family and then also focusing on your matches as well. Seems like a lot of work no pun intended. Also, heard that they donโt get retirement/medical insurance. It's all because they don't have a union fighting to get those privileges for them. Vince has always been anti-union, as are the top guys. Same thing with AEW. There will never be a union in pro wrestling.
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 4, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5
Could someone answer this? Why arenโt WWE wrestlers compensated as much as other athletes when theyโre on the road 24/7? I canโt imagine having to book hotels/flights etc while also focusing on working out, eating right, getting enough sleep, keeping your mental state right and not seeing your family and then also focusing on your matches as well. Seems like a lot of work no pun intended. Also, heard that they donโt get retirement/medical insurance. It's all because they don't have a union fighting to get those privileges for them. Vince has always been anti-union, as are the top guys. Same thing with AEW. There will never be a union in pro wrestling. A pro wrestling union sounds like a joke. Nobody would take it seriously
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 4, 2022 17:59:34 GMT -5
From what I understand there are hotel and rent a car places that they get a hefty discount
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 4, 2022 18:42:10 GMT -5
It's all because they don't have a union fighting to get those privileges for them. Vince has always been anti-union, as are the top guys. Same thing with AEW. There will never be a union in pro wrestling. A pro wrestling union sounds like a joke. Nobody would take it seriously No it doesn't. Wrestlers absolutely need a union because they're all getting ed over by the owners. WWE made almost a billion dollars in 2020. Their operating cost was 250 million for that year and not all of that 250 million is pay for the wrestlers. Let's say 100 million of that is pay for wrestlers (and that's being way too generous considering Lesnar is the highest paid wrestler and he makes 10 million). That's only 10 percent of the revenue and again, that's a very generous estimate. I would guess their payroll is alot lower than that. Compare that to the NBA where the players get around 50% of the revenue. Wrestlers are absolutely getting screwed over.
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 9, 2022 16:11:36 GMT -5
As covered above, all flights are paid for. Generally, hotels and ground transportation arenโt covered by the company, except in certain circumstances eg international tours. Some of the top names can negotiate this kind of stuff. Randy Orton and AJ Styles, amongst others, have leased their own luxury tour buses that are paid for (or at least subsidised) by WWE. I donโt know if this still happens with the newer generation but old-school wrestlers would find real cheapskate ways to save on road costs by having six people sharing a $20 hotel room, or in the cases of Mick Foley and Owen Hart, just staying at fans houses for free. I remember punk saying he bought his tour bus himself during his wwe time. Heโs quite notoriously frugal but saw it as his one luxury due to the time they spend on the road. Get plenty of sleep and recovery etc and save all the hassle. Thatโs the thing people donโt always think about, not only are they wrestling however many nights a week but they have s to drive themselves late at night, get a few hours sleep, grab a workout, get to the buildings stupidly early snd inbetween all this eat
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Post by FLUX '97 on Mar 10, 2022 6:08:36 GMT -5
It's all because they don't have a union fighting to get those privileges for them. Vince has always been anti-union, as are the top guys. Same thing with AEW. There will never be a union in pro wrestling. A pro wrestling union sounds like a joke. Nobody would take it seriouslyYou say that, but Zelina Vega was released once upon a time for trying to organize a wrestling union in WWE.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 10, 2022 9:40:28 GMT -5
A pro wrestling union sounds like a joke. Nobody would take it seriouslyYou say that, but Zelina Vega was released once upon a time for trying to organize a wrestling union in WWE. Yea and she got let goโฆ.went jobless for a few months and immediately went back.
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Post by FLUX '97 on Mar 10, 2022 10:08:45 GMT -5
You say that, but Zelina Vega was released once upon a time for trying to organize a wrestling union in WWE. Yea and she got let goโฆ.went jobless for a few months and immediately went back. Well, yeah, that's what I just said.
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 10, 2022 13:20:40 GMT -5
You say that, but Zelina Vega was released once upon a time for trying to organize a wrestling union in WWE. Yea and she got let goโฆ.went jobless for a few months and immediately went back. She got let go because she was open about wanting a union. Unions are useless if a large group of the workers don't stand together.
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Post by walkingturtles on Mar 16, 2022 6:38:10 GMT -5
A union would kill the wrestling industry. Yes Iโm sure it would benefit WWE wrestlers and perhaps AEW but as you start going below that, man the smaller companies and independents would die. Also remember, not one single wrestler is forced to work for WWE.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 16, 2022 13:54:11 GMT -5
A union would kill the wrestling industry. Yes Iโm sure it would benefit WWE wrestlers and perhaps AEW but as you start going below that, man the smaller companies and independents would die. Also remember, not one single wrestler is forced to work for WWE. Unions would not kill the industry. Why do you think that? They are severely needed because the wrestlers are absolutely getting screwed over. They make only a fraction of the revenue they bring in. Compare that to the NBA, where the players make over 50% of the money they bring in. Think about it like the SAG. The bigger actors (ie the WWE and AEW guys) are in the union. The smaller actors (ie the independent guys) aren't required to be.
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 16, 2022 15:50:44 GMT -5
We had a union. It consisted of Test though, so no one took it seriously.
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