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Post by The Brain on Mar 5, 2022 15:33:56 GMT -5
Just came across this video. Man his selling/bumping was the best
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 5, 2022 18:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by JimRiga on Mar 6, 2022 5:28:00 GMT -5
I’m surprised their wasn’t any clips from Survivor Series ‘90. His entire performance there was fantastic, the faces let him have it and I loved his exchange with Hawk particularly as they showed great chemistry in such a short time.
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Post by PuroMasta on Mar 6, 2022 12:45:03 GMT -5
So smooth and effortless with his selling and great face in AWA and even better heel as Perfect in the fed who was totally perfect in the role and gimmick. He’s greatly missed
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Post by The Brain on Mar 6, 2022 13:11:50 GMT -5
He is indeed greatly missed Him,Flair,Mach,Rude and Piper are the main reasons why I became a fan of wrestling in the first place. 4 of em now gone  but man what legacies they left for us to enjoy forever |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 6, 2022 18:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 6, 2022 20:44:20 GMT -5
My all-time favorite wrestler.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 7, 2022 8:53:08 GMT -5
Not a massive fan, but I'm also not a hater of his.
I'd say about 50% was good. But the rest was too forced and took me out of suspension of disbelief.
For the era, I guess it worked. But I feel he gets a pass on this selling whilst Dolph Ziggler is labelled as a "Perfect wannabe" or a "good bumper" and HBK was "overselling" at Summerslam 2005.
Watching the first minute of that video and how he had to force the flips from getting whipped into the turnbuckle and sliding into the post, just made me be like "huh?".
The overuse of the "kicking his leg out of his leg" whilst holding the ropes or flipping over the top rope after a strong punch/chop in EVERY match, waters it down. Sure, it's making the opponent look strong, but too much and it becomes overused/meaningless.
I'd say he was smooth about 50% of the time.
Was he innovative at the time period? Hell yes. Was he great in the ring? Hell yes. But I feel he should have not over-forced the bumps and used them in the major matches rather than every match.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 7, 2022 9:22:24 GMT -5
Not a massive fan, but I'm also not a hater of his. I'd say about 50% was good. But the rest was too forced and took me out of suspension of disbelief. For the era, I guess it worked. But I feel he gets a pass on this selling whilst Dolph Ziggler is labelled as a "Perfect wannabe" or a "good bumper" and HBK was "overselling" at Summerslam 2005. Watching the first minute of that video and how he had to force the flips from getting whipped into the turnbuckle and sliding into the post, just made me be like "huh?". The overuse of the "kicking his leg out of his leg" whilst holding the ropes or flipping over the top rope after a strong punch/chop in EVERY match, waters it down. Sure, it's making the opponent look strong, but too much and it becomes overused/meaningless. I'd say he was smooth about 50% of the time. Was he innovative at the time period? Hell yes. Was he great in the ring? Hell yes. But I feel he should have not over-forced the bumps and used them in the major matches rather than every match. To be fair, Shawn was overselling during that match. I think he has all but said the words. And, I never saw Ziggler as a Mr. Perfect or HBK rip-off, he seems to me more like Billy Gunn than the other two. Also, to be fair, he didn't do the leg kick thing all that much, he only did that against guys who had leg submission finishers like Bret and Tito. But he did do the flip out of the turnbuckle often. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 12:15:09 GMT -5
Not a massive fan, but I'm also not a hater of his. I'd say about 50% was good. But the rest was too forced and took me out of suspension of disbelief. For the era, I guess it worked. But I feel he gets a pass on this selling whilst Dolph Ziggler is labelled as a "Perfect wannabe" or a "good bumper" and HBK was "overselling" at Summerslam 2005. Watching the first minute of that video and how he had to force the flips from getting whipped into the turnbuckle and sliding into the post, just made me be like "huh?". The overuse of the "kicking his leg out of his leg" whilst holding the ropes or flipping over the top rope after a strong punch/chop in EVERY match, waters it down. Sure, it's making the opponent look strong, but too much and it becomes overused/meaningless. I'd say he was smooth about 50% of the time. Was he innovative at the time period? Hell yes. Was he great in the ring? Hell yes. But I feel he should have not over-forced the bumps and used them in the major matches rather than every match. good post. perfect is my fav of all time, but he did overdo it alot. but when done right, it was Perfect  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 12:16:53 GMT -5
bobby heenan was also a GREAT bump taker.
my fav is warrior whoppin on him at beginning of survivor series 1990 match
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Post by The Brain on Mar 7, 2022 13:12:05 GMT -5
The perfect pairing.I loved these 2 together  |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 7, 2022 16:36:11 GMT -5
The perfect pairing.I loved these 2 together Yep, this is my favorite tandem of manager and wrestler. They were so good together. I wish it went on longer. Love the gif, they would have made a perfect tag team. Perfect doing all the work and the brain counting the money... |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 7, 2022 18:09:36 GMT -5
Also, to be fair, he didn't do the leg kick thing all that much, he only did that against guys who had leg submission finishers like Bret and Tito. But he did do the flip out of the turnbuckle often. Granted I haven't watched much wrestling pre-New Generation, but I've been watching Nitros from 1997 onwards and he almost did it every match. |
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