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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 11:58:05 GMT -5
33 minutes into WM8 on Peacock The Undertaker grabs Jake one handed by the throat. Jake falls to his back and Taker maintains contact with him for 11 seconds with his shoulders on the mat. Ref Joey Marella ignores the pin. You can hear Gorilla dismiss the pin as well on commentary.
Do you suspect Gorilla, his son (the ref), and Jake were all in on an attempt to sabotage Taker before it was just too obvious to the Hoosier Dome?
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Post by Old Zeke on Mar 23, 2022 14:14:53 GMT -5
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Post by dixol on Mar 23, 2022 14:50:27 GMT -5
A choke is an illegal move. You shouldn’t count if someone is down as a result of an illegal move. Marella made the right no-call.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 16:11:29 GMT -5
A choke is an illegal move. You shouldn’t count if someone is down as a result of an illegal move. Marella made the right no-call. Million $ Dream and Sleeper hold are ok? |
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Post by K5 on Mar 23, 2022 16:15:59 GMT -5
A choke is an illegal move. You shouldn’t count if someone is down as a result of an illegal move. Marella made the right no-call. Million $ Dream and Sleeper hold are ok? those aren't choke holds, those are holds that apply pressure elsewhere when done correctly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 16:21:03 GMT -5
choking is not illegal in the form of a submission hold
the rape choke, one handed or two is illegal
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Post by dixol on Mar 23, 2022 20:16:51 GMT -5
A choke is an illegal move. You shouldn’t count if someone is down as a result of an illegal move. Marella made the right no-call. Million $ Dream and Sleeper hold are ok? See what K5 wrote above. A choke cuts off the wind at the throat. Sleeper holds put pressure on the carotid artery, cutting off blood flow to the brain and causing the opponent to pass out. They are totally different holds. That’s why the refs would check to make sure a sleeper wasn’t a choke by slipping their hand under the elbow of the person applying the hold. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 6:58:29 GMT -5
Million $ Dream and Sleeper hold are ok? those aren't choke holds, those are holds that apply pressure elsewhere when done correctly. I’m sitting here trying to come up with a rebuttal but this is a RARE well thought out logical response that I accept. Not used to this on the boards. |
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 24, 2022 8:56:15 GMT -5
Nope.
Jake also lost by count out to make himself still look strong going into his WCW run.
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 24, 2022 12:03:23 GMT -5
Nope. Jake also lost by count out to make himself still look strong going into his WCW run. No he didn't, he got pinned. He got tombstoned on the outside of the ring, but Taker rolled him in and pinned him. |
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 24, 2022 13:22:15 GMT -5
Nope. Jake also lost by count out to make himself still look strong going into his WCW run. No he didn't, he got pinned. He got tombstoned on the outside of the ring, but Taker rolled him in and pinned him. My bad. I was thinking of Roddy Piper when he fought the Undertaker at a house show. I think he talks about it in his book. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 24, 2022 13:55:39 GMT -5
As Kurt Angle would tell you, a choke-hold is an illegal move and a pin/submission should not count based on one. That no good dirty Taz screwed Kurt at the 2000 Royal Rumble by paying off referee Jimmy Kordeas to end his undefeated streak.
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Post by PJ on Mar 24, 2022 19:33:12 GMT -5
A choke is an illegal move. You shouldn’t count if someone is down as a result of an illegal move. Marella made the right no-call. Million $ Dream and Sleeper hold are ok? Yes they aren’t considered choke holds. They need to be broken if the arm goes under the chin to the throat. Taker grabbed him by the throat so it needs to be broke on the 5 count same with a choke slam. |
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Post by The Brain on Mar 24, 2022 19:39:07 GMT -5
Nope. Jake also lost by count out to make himself still look strong going into his WCW run. No he didn't, he got pinned. He got tombstoned on the outside of the ring, but Taker rolled him in and pinned him. Bobby getting on Marella during the choke like Jesse would. Gotta love it |
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