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Post by jason88cubs on May 1, 2022 9:51:25 GMT -5
The story is Bret would defeat Hogan at 93 Summerslam, Hogan would go his way out the door and Bret Hart would be the man, but Hogan changed his mine and wanted to put over Yoko instead. I AGREE with how it went down!
I like Bret Hart but we were so use to seeing Hogan go against these monster/big heels like Andre, Bossman, Earthquake, Taker, Sid I just can't see him losing to Bret Hart
Wrestling, in 93, still had that big bad guy thing going on and I just don't think it would have went over well.
I can't even see the match working. Hogan was so good at getting beat up and getting the sympathy and then making his comeback and getting the crowd behind him, I can't see Bret beating Hogan over without using heel tactics, which would then possibly turn the crowd on Bret
I think what ACTUALLY happened end up better for everyone involved.
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Post by cordless2016 on May 1, 2022 10:09:44 GMT -5
I don’t see Hogan ever tapping out to the sharp shooter, but Bret could have beaten Hulk with some type of roll up similar to Bret/Owen at WM10 or HBK/Y2J at WM19.
The match would have had a different feel than the typical-Hogan match for sure, and Hogan likely would have had to go “heelish” for a bit with his overpowering of Bret, but we’re talking about Bret Hart here. The guy who put on classics with giants like Diesel and Undertaker would have had no problem building a believable match with Hogan. The only question is would Hogan have gone along with it, which obviously he didn’t which is one reasonwhy the match never happened.
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Post by hbkjason on May 1, 2022 11:20:25 GMT -5
I think the fans would have accepted Bret beating Hogan in 93. I think if they had Hogan over power Bret for the majority of the match and then have Bret just catch him with a small package like he did Nash would have worked and not made Hogan look weak in the process.
When you think about how the WWF was always looking for the next big thing and never fully went all in with Bret. It truly shows how good he was and how much the fans bought into him with how over he managed to get.
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Post by The Brain on May 1, 2022 11:55:09 GMT -5
This at SSlam that year wouldve been glorious  |
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Post by wolfpac on May 1, 2022 12:30:34 GMT -5
I somewhat agree but in the hogan working bigger guys point - Bret is literally the master when working with bigger guys so that point would be hard to make to me
Bret beating hogan in 93 would have felt odd
Bret beating hogan if it was 96/7 Bret oh yeah
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2022 16:16:51 GMT -5
also glad it didnt happen. my SSalm 93 woulda been: lex beats yoko for belt perfect beats shawn for belt bret still wrestles doink & lawler hogan fights giant gonzales undertaker vs bam bam bigelow Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted |
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Post by MKSavage on May 1, 2022 17:45:22 GMT -5
also glad it didnt happen. my SSalm 93 woulda been: lex beats yoko for belt perfect beats shawn for belt bret still wrestles doink & lawler hogan fights giant gonzales undertaker vs bam bam bigelow <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I kind of would have liked to see Hogan/Bam Bam in a match, and a feud. |
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Post by MKSavage on May 1, 2022 17:48:52 GMT -5
This at SSlam that year wouldve been glorious I would have loved to have seen this... And looks like the perfect picture to be a cover for a WWF magazine. Honestly in 1998, WCW really should have pushed the storyline that Hogan dodged Bret in the WWF, never gave him a match, and left for WCW instead of facing him at SSL93. This would have helped Bret look like a threat to Hollywood Hogan in WCW in 1998 and could have helped get him over at the time. WCW really needed new challengers for the NWO and Hogan, Bret was their best option at the time. The fans had never seen a 1-on-1 match between the two. Everything else in 1998 that WCW was giving fans were matchups and feuds we had seen for years, even decades: Hogan/Piper, Hogan/Savage, Hogan, Flair, Hogan/Warrior, Flair/Sting, Flair/Macho, Flair/Luger, Sting/Luger, etc. This would have been something fresh. |
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Post by The Brain on May 1, 2022 17:55:21 GMT -5
This at SSlam that year wouldve been glorious I would have loved to have seen this... And looks like the perfect picture to be a cover for a WWF magazine. Honestly in 1998, WCW really should have pushed the storyline that Hogan dodged Bret in the WWF, never gave him a match, and left for WCW instead of facing him at SSL93. This would have helped Bret look like a threat to Hollywood Hogan in WCW in 1998 and could have helped get him over at the time. WCW really needed new challengers for the NWO and Hogan, Bret was their best option at the time. The fans had never seen a 1-on-1 match between the two. Everything else in 1998 that WCW was giving fans were matchups and feuds we had seen for years, even decades: Hogan/Piper, Hogan/Savage, Hogan, Flair, Hogan/Warrior, Flair/Sting, Flair/Macho, Flair/Luger, Sting/Luger, etc. This would have been something fresh. Such an easy story to tell.With how Starrcade ended this shouldve been the direction in early 98. Too bad WCW was incompetent |
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Post by MKSavage on May 1, 2022 18:16:08 GMT -5
I would have loved to have seen this... And looks like the perfect picture to be a cover for a WWF magazine. Honestly in 1998, WCW really should have pushed the storyline that Hogan dodged Bret in the WWF, never gave him a match, and left for WCW instead of facing him at SSL93. This would have helped Bret look like a threat to Hollywood Hogan in WCW in 1998 and could have helped get him over at the time. WCW really needed new challengers for the NWO and Hogan, Bret was their best option at the time. The fans had never seen a 1-on-1 match between the two. Everything else in 1998 that WCW was giving fans were matchups and feuds we had seen for years, even decades: Hogan/Piper, Hogan/Savage, Hogan, Flair, Hogan/Warrior, Flair/Sting, Flair/Macho, Flair/Luger, Sting/Luger, etc. This would have been something fresh. Such an easy story to tell.With how Starrcade ended this shouldve been the direction in early 98. Too bad WCW was incompetent Yeah, since Hogan and Bischoff soured on Sting, after Superbrawl in 1998 they should have had Bret in the spot to face off against Hogan - eventually. Start building Bret as the guy who will finally take down Hogana and the NWO. He can run the gauntlet through the NWO, face the big stars on PPV's and the minor stars of Nitro/Thunder. Have him beat guys like Hall, Nash, Steiner, Perfect, and Macho on the PPVs, and guys like Buff, Norton, Vincent, Chono, Crush, etc. on Nitro/Thunder. Eventually he goes through all of the NWO members to finally get a shot against Hogan at a PPV, around Spring Stampede 98/Great American Bash. Have the first match look like Bret is about to beat Hogan, only to win by disqualification and not get the belt. If the fans are getting behind Bret (like they were behind Sting before Starrcade, or like Lex in 1997), then you have another PPV match with Bret finally getting the win. This could have been used to help breakup the NWO and split it into NWO Hogan and NWO Wolfpac. In the last match vs Bret, the NWO could get involved with the exception of Macho and Nash, they don't help Bret but they don't help Hogan either - which causes the split. WCW can also get involved in the match, running off the NWO, to help Bret - basically backing him. If the fans don't seem to be getting behind Bret, then he can be used as the transitional champion to get to Goldberg. Or he can even join NWO Wolfpac, helping split the NWO in two but doesn't get the belt. Leaving Goldberg to be the one to win the title from Hogan and leading the charge for WCW. At least you would get two PPV's of Bret vs Hogan, which would help with the money they just paid him. |
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Post by Warriah' on May 5, 2022 8:07:47 GMT -5
Bret probably would have given Hogan the best match of his career at Summerslam. Bret worked and won believably against big guys like Diesel, Bigelow and Yoko, as well as big stars like Piper and Flair before and after SS93.
No doubt he could have had a phenomenal match and had it go down believably.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on May 5, 2022 10:59:36 GMT -5
The best thing wrestling can do is just move on from the past, the new guy doesn’t need to beat the old guy. I ADORE WrestleMania 6’s Main Event, it’s my favorite match in all of wrestling and is the very core of my fandom. I can look back on it and see though that by having Warrior beat Hogan, the Hogan fans could NEVER cheer Warrior moving forward. Warrior fans could cheer Hogan just fine, we won, but Hogan fans could never root for Warrior because he beat their guy.
That’s why I don’t think it benefits anybody to have A guy like Bret beat Hogan. You can view him as the new Hogan just fine by not having Hogan around. Once you start comparing & replacing, the fans are gonna get divided.
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