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Post by cordless2016 on May 8, 2022 10:11:40 GMT -5
Another name I’ll throw out there that I don’t see too often in these conversations is Matt Hardy. From ‘05-08 the guy was one of the more over midcarders in the company. With how long he was tenured in the WWE it’s weird to think he never got a quick run with the belt. I’ve always felt his lackluster run with the European Title in 2001 (not really his fault IMO) soured the company on pushing him as a singles star, but his CW Champ run and later singles run from ‘05-08 proved to me atleast that the guy could have held the IC belt atleast once. I think that promo where Vince brought him back to fight Edge was even worse for his career. Very true. As a 15 year old at the time I was just psyched to see Hardy back and going after Edge, but watching that promo now, it’s pretty cringy. Vince McMahon literally introduced him and handed him a mic on his A-show. This was Hardy’s “make or break” moment, and the promo just didn’t hit IMO. Not the worst promo ever, but it wasn’t the “Matt 3:16” moment either that I believe he needed to hit after that that introduction. |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on May 8, 2022 10:36:15 GMT -5
X-Pac Bossman Tatanka Martel Snuka X PAC should have won it 100%! |
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on May 8, 2022 10:37:23 GMT -5
X-Pac Bossman Tatanka Martel Snuka Wow X-Pac never held the IC title???!??! I actually can’t believe he didn’t win it as X PAC or 123 Kid... I could have sworn he did at least once. |
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Post by Butchers on May 8, 2022 12:39:04 GMT -5
Tatanka - how he went undefeated for 2 years but never won the IC title was a strange one, maybe that was the reason..
X-Pac - would've made a great champ around 98-99. Matches with Owen and Jeff would've been great
Brutus Beefcake - so over at the end of the 80's and he would've got it without that ill timed injury
Ted Dibiase - never had a singles title run in WWE. Imagine the heat he could've gotten from a lengthy run like Honky Tonk Man (plus a way better worker!)
Undertaker - just because.. even for a week
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Post by MKSavage on May 8, 2022 15:17:10 GMT -5
Tatanka - how he went undefeated for 2 years but never won the IC title was a strange one, maybe that was the reason..
X-Pac - would've made a great champ around 98-99. Matches with Owen and Jeff would've been great Brutus Beefcake - so over at the end of the 80's and he would've got it without that ill timed injury Ted Dibiase - never had a singles title run in WWE. Imagine the heat he could've gotten from a lengthy run like Honky Tonk Man (plus a way better worker!) Undertaker - just because.. even for a week I believe it has been said that he was supposed to win it at WM9, but Shawn did his usual politics and it didn't happen. |
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Post by razorsedge on May 9, 2022 15:00:12 GMT -5
I can't believe X-Pac never held the IC strap, especially during the hot-potato title changes of the Attitude Era.
Always felt JYD should've won the belt against Valentine at WM 1, he would've made a great secondary champion for the house show circuit at the time
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Post by Evil Abed on May 9, 2022 15:11:57 GMT -5
Even more so then guys that should have held it for me is thinking of guys like Albert and Godfather as former IC champs.
Trying not to think of guys like MVP, Finlay, or Kennedy just because they were always on a different brand than the IC title.
One that stands out for me is Jake. But I guess he's also the perfect definition of a guy that doesn't need a title to be over. Supposedly he was set to take the title from Honky Tonk Man before he got injured. Take that for what it's worth.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on May 9, 2022 15:46:32 GMT -5
Taker Cena Batista Lesnar Foley etc... none of em needed it at all but it still would have been cool.
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Post by cordless2016 on May 9, 2022 21:22:16 GMT -5
Even more so then guys that should have held it for me is thinking of guys like Albert and Godfather as former IC champs. Trying not to think of guys like MVP, Finlay, or Kennedy just because they were always on a different brand than the IC title. One that stands out for me is Jake. But I guess he's also the perfect definition of a guy that doesn't need a title to be over. Supposedly he was set to take the title from Honky Tonk Man before he got injured. Take that for what it's worth. Albert as IC Champ annoyed me so much, even as a kid. Kane got a HUGE rub beating Triple H, only to drop it a few weeks later to Albert of all people…only for him to drop it soon after in a “blink and you’ll miss it” run. Just ridiculous. |
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Post by Scott! on May 11, 2022 10:52:33 GMT -5
This is probably a strange answer, but in early 2006 I'd have loved them to put it on Chris Masters. I always felt that had Shelton not lost it to RVD, he should have dropped it to Carlito and that would have given Carlito/Masters feud more importance. Carlito should have won it on a Raw then they could have ran that feud a little longer, it just seemed to fizzle out.
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Post by Scott! on May 11, 2022 10:56:45 GMT -5
Albert as IC Champ annoyed me so much, even as a kid. Kane got a HUGE rub beating Triple H, only to drop it a few weeks later to Albert of all people…only for him to drop it soon after in a “blink and you’ll miss it” run. Just ridiculous. I'm glad it wasn't only me pissed off about that. Strangest decision I can remember them making with a title change, because honestly who the  cared about Albert in 2001. Kane should have had it longer, he was over as hell and him beating Triple H was, as you said, a nice rub for him. If they wanted the title dropped to Lance Storm, have Mike Awesome cost Kane the match since that was a tag team at that time and then go from there. Kane to Albert to Lance Storm? No thanks. Imagine how good it'd make Storm in that moment having beat Kane in his first month in WWF. |
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Post by PJ on May 13, 2022 4:59:07 GMT -5
Brutus Beefcake. Conrad Thompson etc hate that he ended Hennig's unbeaten run and was scheduled to beat him for the IC strap and cant understand why. All I can say is that they must be deaf. From Beefcakes turn in 1987 until his horrific injury in 1990? The guy was over like crazy..easily a top 5 babyface in the company. His run was scheduled to last until RR91 I believe and I'm genuinely sorry it didn't happen. Rick Martel. Was absolutely tailor made for an IC run....where is the question? But there's no mistaking...he would have been great. 123 Kid/X pac. I think the 123 Kid getting an underdog run as the champ h would have really done wonders for him and created a bit of drama around the belt. Question is when though...but he definately should have gotten a run as X Pac. Tatanka. I think a run here for him in 1993 would have done him & HBK good... Taz. I think Taz should have been feuding with the Radicalz alongside Jericho and been in the IC title mix. He would have been a better candidate than some of the wasters who held the belt in 2000. Good call. Especially with Taz. He deserved so much better than what he got in the wwe. |
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Post by JokerFC on May 13, 2022 10:51:23 GMT -5
Brutus Beefcake. Conrad Thompson etc hate that he ended Hennig's unbeaten run and was scheduled to beat him for the IC strap and cant understand why. All I can say is that they must be deaf. From Beefcakes turn in 1987 until his horrific injury in 1990? The guy was over like crazy..easily a top 5 babyface in the company. His run was scheduled to last until RR91 I believe and I'm genuinely sorry it didn't happen. Rick Martel. Was absolutely tailor made for an IC run....where is the question? But there's no mistaking...he would have been great. 123 Kid/X pac. I think the 123 Kid getting an underdog run as the champ h would have really done wonders for him and created a bit of drama around the belt. Question is when though...but he definately should have gotten a run as X Pac. Tatanka. I think a run here for him in 1993 would have done him & HBK good... Taz. I think Taz should have been feuding with the Radicalz alongside Jericho and been in the IC title mix. He would have been a better candidate than some of the wasters who held the belt in 2000. Good call. Especially with Taz. He deserved so much better than what he got in the wwe. He sure did. I was recently watching Raw episodes from early 200 and I see Taz vs Benoit so I tune in the have a look.....a 3 minute squash. Marred by interference but still a squash. FFS like. |
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Post by Warriah' on May 13, 2022 11:28:39 GMT -5
Martel and X-Pac were two guys I thought actually DID hold IC title runs. I always forget they didn't.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on May 13, 2022 12:13:13 GMT -5
Martel and X-Pac were two guys I thought actually DID hold IC title runs. I always forget they didn't. This thread reminded me that X PAC didn’t win it... I always think he did at least once for a few days. Shane McMahon should have won it as well. |
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Post by JokerFC on May 13, 2022 12:24:37 GMT -5
Martel and X-Pac were two guys I thought actually DID hold IC title runs. I always forget they didn't. Years ago? I thought X Pac & Tatanka did win the IC title & I also thought Billy Gunn had a brief run in early 99 while the Corp & DX were feuding but nope.... |
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Post by rKoNomad316 on May 19, 2022 20:34:42 GMT -5
Mankind
Xpac
Taker
Matt Hardy
Batista
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 25, 2022 16:36:18 GMT -5
John Cena Mankind Brock Undertaker Batista Talk about a who’s who |
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Post by CM Tusk on May 25, 2022 17:25:26 GMT -5
John Cena Mankind Brock Undertaker Batista Talk about a who’s who It can be argued some like Taker, Cena and Brock were too big for the belt, but Mankind in 97 and Batista in 04 would have made sense. |
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