dixol
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Post by dixol on Sept 26, 2022 7:39:04 GMT -5
I'd be really curious to know what really happened with this figure..... * Why are these all over stores & pre-orders aren't shipping out 'til October? Do they not want us to use their website to order stuff? * What in the hell was up with the Bargain Hunt pallets? * How were some people finding these back in July? Such bizarre, bizarre distribution with this..... I'm seeing people finding these all over the place on my social media feeds....ever MORE frustrating how many people are trying to SELL them on my social media feeds.... and mine's not due to arrive from Target dot com 'til October 7th..... I'm a little frustrated that you need to seek each figure out in a completely different way. Sometimes you've gotta pre-order or you will NOT get one. Other times, you pre-order and they're everywhere else, in stores (or worse, BARGAIN stores) first. I just don't understand why this is so complicated every damn time. There doesn't seem to be any sort of consistent system for getting these figures out and it's a cluster-F every time. I'll be happy when I have one in-hand. definitely a weird overall situation with it. probably going to end up as one of those wrestling figure mysteries because i don't expect any type of explanation to come out about it It was explained in the Q&A thread. |
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Sept 26, 2022 8:26:35 GMT -5
definitely a weird overall situation with it. probably going to end up as one of those wrestling figure mysteries because i don't expect any type of explanation to come out about it It was explained in the Q&A thread. if i recall correctly, steve answered my question about it by saying something along the lines of “i don’t know what happened there” not quite the explanation i was hoping for |
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Post by Flair Forever on Sept 26, 2022 9:40:49 GMT -5
definitely a weird overall situation with it. probably going to end up as one of those wrestling figure mysteries because i don't expect any type of explanation to come out about it It was explained in the Q&A thread.  I appreciate Steve and all he does to answer our questions on here.... for that reason I won't harass him about this. Distribution is not his main area of responsibility. I know I'm not the only collector who is frustrated that these figures are never distributed the same way.... pre-orders are supposed to make this whole process easier for us, and we've seen a lot of issues with pre-orders over the past year (and probably beyond). We shouldn't be pre-ordering then wondering if/when we'll get our product, while people are finding them at discount stores and scalping them online. I was one of the people who got burned on the Amazon Takeover Hogan pre-order (they waited 1 year then cancelled it)... so I tried to grab one from a reputable auction site.... I waited a month and the guy never sent the figure, I had to petition the auction site for a refund. I ended up re-pre-ordering from Amazon and finally getting the figure. After 14 months. So I'm a bit leery about pre-orders now. Here we are again? The reality is, I just want the figure in-hand. This Ultimate Macho Man figure has had particularly strange distribution We first heard about a 7/21 "street date" (I think it was posted by Matt Cardona, who usually has good info).... then we saw posts online that a few people found them in stores..... then a week or so later it went up for sale online.... I ordered it pretty quickly..... and I stopped hunting for it in stores! Then nothing. For a long while. Online orders just said "coming soon". Then, we saw the "Bargain Hunt" reports.... kind of worrisome? Now we have a 10/7/22 shipping date, and people are finding them in stores. I'm seeing a lot being sold on social media in the $45 dollar range.... I've mostly been trying to figure out how rock solid my original Target pre-order is. It's a shame that I have to wonder about that. I'm just curious how it gets this far off the rails. |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Sept 26, 2022 10:05:46 GMT -5
It was explained in the Q&A thread. I appreciate Steve and all he does to answer our questions on here.... for that reason I won't harass him about this. Distribution is not his main area of responsibility. I know I'm not the only collector who is frustrated that these figures are never distributed the same way.... pre-orders are supposed to make this whole process easier for us, and we've seen a lot of issues with pre-orders over the past year (and probably beyond). We shouldn't be pre-ordering then wondering if/when we'll get our product, while people are finding them at discount stores and scalping them online. I was one of the people who got burned on the Amazon Takeover Hogan pre-order (they waited 1 year then cancelled it)... so I tried to grab one from a reputable auction site.... I waited a month and the guy never sent the figure, I had to petition the auction site for a refund. I ended up re-pre-ordering from Amazon and finally getting the figure. After 14 months. So I'm a bit leery about pre-orders now. Here we are again? The reality is, I just want the figure in-hand. This Ultimate Macho Man figure has had particularly strange distribution We first heard about a 7/21 "street date" (I think it was posted by Matt Cardona, who usually has good info).... then we saw posts online that a few people found them in stores..... then a week or so later it went up for sale online.... I ordered it pretty quickly..... and I stopped hunting for it in stores! Then nothing. For a long while. Online orders just said "coming soon". Then, we saw the "Bargain Hunt" reports.... kind of worrisome? Now we have a 10/7/22 shipping date, and people are finding them in stores. I'm seeing a lot being sold on social media in the $45 dollar range.... I've mostly been trying to figure out how rock solid my original Target pre-order is. It's a shame that I have to wonder about that. I'm just curious how it gets this far off the rails. You need to blame Target. |
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Sept 26, 2022 11:46:00 GMT -5
I appreciate Steve and all he does to answer our questions on here.... for that reason I won't harass him about this. Distribution is not his main area of responsibility. I know I'm not the only collector who is frustrated that these figures are never distributed the same way.... pre-orders are supposed to make this whole process easier for us, and we've seen a lot of issues with pre-orders over the past year (and probably beyond). We shouldn't be pre-ordering then wondering if/when we'll get our product, while people are finding them at discount stores and scalping them online. I was one of the people who got burned on the Amazon Takeover Hogan pre-order (they waited 1 year then cancelled it)... so I tried to grab one from a reputable auction site.... I waited a month and the guy never sent the figure, I had to petition the auction site for a refund. I ended up re-pre-ordering from Amazon and finally getting the figure. After 14 months. So I'm a bit leery about pre-orders now. Here we are again? The reality is, I just want the figure in-hand. This Ultimate Macho Man figure has had particularly strange distribution We first heard about a 7/21 "street date" (I think it was posted by Matt Cardona, who usually has good info).... then we saw posts online that a few people found them in stores..... then a week or so later it went up for sale online.... I ordered it pretty quickly..... and I stopped hunting for it in stores! Then nothing. For a long while. Online orders just said "coming soon". Then, we saw the "Bargain Hunt" reports.... kind of worrisome? Now we have a 10/7/22 shipping date, and people are finding them in stores. I'm seeing a lot being sold on social media in the $45 dollar range.... I've mostly been trying to figure out how rock solid my original Target pre-order is. It's a shame that I have to wonder about that. I'm just curious how it gets this far off the rails. You need to blame Target. at what point does mattel ask target what the  is going on with the distribution of their product? |
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Sept 26, 2022 12:04:25 GMT -5
You need to blame Target. at what point does mattel ask target what the is going on with the distribution of their product? I would think Target’s distribution is the least of Mattel’s worries. They’ve already made their money and once Target has products it’s at their discretion as for what to do with it. Mattel won’t even fix their own quality control so what makes people think that they’ll try to fix Target’s distribution? |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Sept 26, 2022 13:06:37 GMT -5
at what point does mattel ask target what the is going on with the distribution of their product? I would think Target’s distribution is the least of Mattel’s worries. They’ve already made their money and once Target has products it’s at their discretion as for what to do with it. Mattel won’t even fix their own quality control so what makes people think that they’ll try to fix Target’s distribution? This is one of the most oft-missed points along the product chain here - we're not purchasing products from Mattel. We're purchasing them from Wal-Mart/Target/Amazon/etc. The retailers pay Mattel for the product to sell in their stores. |
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Post by master of the WORLD! on Sept 26, 2022 15:31:41 GMT -5
found UE macho man today(nyc). also found UE roman and Jeff hardy and what looked like a case of legends acolytes Bradshaw. it was shocked to find all that at once.
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Post by underoos on Sept 26, 2022 15:33:38 GMT -5
Yea my targets got them all as far as I know, they just in the back haha
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Sept 26, 2022 15:37:23 GMT -5
Saw Macho today. Refreshing to see them at the proper store this time.
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Post by Flair Forever on Sept 26, 2022 15:55:45 GMT -5
I would think Target’s distribution is the least of Mattel’s worries. They’ve already made their money and once Target has products it’s at their discretion as for what to do with it. Mattel won’t even fix their own quality control so what makes people think that they’ll try to fix Target’s distribution? This is one of the most oft-missed points along the product chain here - we're not purchasing products from Mattel. We're purchasing them from Wal-Mart/Target/Amazon/etc. The retailers pay Mattel for the product to sell in their stores. A. Well Walmart's distribution is ten times worse, so if Mattel did have any concerns about distribution, they'd probably rather start with Walmart and the "empty shelves" that seem to be in every store I visit.... at least Target seems to be making an effort (even though this Ultimate Macho Man seems to have been screwed up somewhere).... I would think that if Mattel were trying to maximize profit, they might point out to Walmart that their shelves are empty 85% of the year....... I would think Mattel would like to sell more figures? B. I realize that Mattel probably wouldn't be overly concerned about what the Big Box stores do with the product after they've purchased it.... but I'm surprised that Mattel doesn't have concern over all these "exclusive lines" that they create for these Big Box stores that then seem to vanish? Where are the Superstars Series? What happened to all the Masters of the Universe figures? Hollywood Elites? Heck, even the regular Elite lines are often difficult to find these days... I mean, if Walmart isn't going to distribute these "exclusives" why keep creating them for Walmart, and enraging collectors/supporters/fans? It seems to me that these empty Walmart shelves and multiple distribution issues would be part of the conversation of any business partnership between Mattel/Walmart/Target, etc... |
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Sept 26, 2022 16:14:04 GMT -5
This is one of the most oft-missed points along the product chain here - we're not purchasing products from Mattel. We're purchasing them from Wal-Mart/Target/Amazon/etc. The retailers pay Mattel for the product to sell in their stores. B. I realize that Mattel probably wouldn't be overly concerned about what the Big Box stores do with the product after they've purchased it.... but I'm surprised that Mattel doesn't have concern over all these "exclusive lines" that they create for these Big Box stores that then seem to vanish? Where are the Superstars Series? What happened to all the Masters of the Universe figures? Hollywood Elites? Heck, even the regular Elite lines are often difficult to find these days... I mean, if Walmart isn't going to distribute these "exclusives" why keep creating them for Walmart, and enraging collectors/supporters/fans? It seems to me that these empty Walmart shelves and multiple distribution issues would be part of the conversation of any business partnership between Mattel/Walmart/Target, etc... that’s pretty much what i was trying to say, but put into better words. it makes no sense to ask for these exclusives and then just not bother distributing them in a logical way. kinda seems like mattel should say “hey listen, if you’re not going to sell what we’re making for you…why are you even asking for them?” |
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Post by Flair Forever on Sept 26, 2022 19:25:52 GMT -5
B. I realize that Mattel probably wouldn't be overly concerned about what the Big Box stores do with the product after they've purchased it.... but I'm surprised that Mattel doesn't have concern over all these "exclusive lines" that they create for these Big Box stores that then seem to vanish? Where are the Superstars Series? What happened to all the Masters of the Universe figures? Hollywood Elites? Heck, even the regular Elite lines are often difficult to find these days... I mean, if Walmart isn't going to distribute these "exclusives" why keep creating them for Walmart, and enraging collectors/supporters/fans? It seems to me that these empty Walmart shelves and multiple distribution issues would be part of the conversation of any business partnership between Mattel/Walmart/Target, etc... that’s pretty much what i was trying to say, but put into better words. it makes no sense to ask for these exclusives and then just not bother distributing them in a logical way. kinda seems like mattel should say “hey listen, if you’re not going to sell what we’re making for you…why are you even asking for them?” * I was one of the LAST ones to get my hands on the Amazon Hogan exclusive (because I pre-ordered and waited a year, only to have it cancelled); * I will be one of the LAST ones to get my hands on the Ultimate Macho Man (because once I pre-ordered, I gave up store-hunting for it); * I've completely given up on the Superstars Series, because you just can't find them in any store and I won't pay outrageous scalper prices for them... I like them but I don't NEED them; * I never even saw hardly any of the Masters of the Universe line in any store...again, I like them, but I don't NEED them.... not paying top $$$ for these.... * I just pre-ordered the Wrestlemania BAF Mean Gene set from Ringside Collectibles, because I have absolutely ZERO confidence that I'll ever see these in any store..... should I? What am I doing wrong? *Note, I really enjoy ordering from Ringside - they are the one breath of fresh air in all this mess. It's the figures we CAN'T GET from Ringside that bother me! |
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Post by marvelelite on Sept 27, 2022 8:08:38 GMT -5
Looks like Macho is starting to process along with legends series 16. Says October 7th for delivery.
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Post by coldblooded on Sept 27, 2022 10:03:48 GMT -5
My target Macho just shipped today, said they took extra care 😂 Still waiting on my new gen machos, not a peep on that front still.  |
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Post by jokerjohn on Sept 27, 2022 10:08:42 GMT -5
at what point does mattel ask target what the is going on with the distribution of their product? I would think Target’s distribution is the least of Mattel’s worries. They’ve already made their money and once Target has products it’s at their discretion as for what to do with it. Mattel won’t even fix their own quality control so what makes people think that they’ll try to fix Target’s distribution? Although you're right in saying Mattel has already made thier money they should still have an obligation to see that thier products are efficiently being sold for customers. That's why I have reps for different companies coming into my stores to check how products are selling, if we are getting them and if the shelves are full. Constantly having empty shelves dosen't help the store or keep current or future customers happy. |
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Sept 27, 2022 10:19:48 GMT -5
got the shipping notice for macho man today. set to arrive saturday. so i guess i can stop checking stores in fear of my pre-order being cancelled. i'll probably pick up another one once i do see it in stores though
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Sept 27, 2022 10:48:09 GMT -5
My pre-order has switched over to "preparing to ship". I may have an eye on a store that has already put them out...see if I can get there before it actually ships.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Sept 27, 2022 11:44:41 GMT -5
My Mach just shipped out too! Super happy, just not happy about having more figures  I'm considering selling off my elite flashback, but Idk I like that figure a lot. I got rid of my RSE version a while back. |
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Post by iamcline on Sept 27, 2022 14:15:57 GMT -5
My two Ultimate Legend Machos have shipped!
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I dont know good luck 
