|
|
Post by JokerFC on Sept 6, 2022 8:33:36 GMT -5
Bret doesnt remember a lot of things right chief....he admits that himself. The graphic with the Mountie says he was gonna hold it until after SSeries 92 at least....... Bret had a tape recorder and made audio diaries of everything that happened from the time he started in WWF in 84 until the end of his career. He made tape recordings while everything was happening and fresh in his mind. He used those tapes to write his book. I know this has shattered your perception and you won’t change your mind, but it’s the truth. If anything, for the way Bret compiled his career on tape and used it to write his book, if you’ve never read it, I recommend it. It’s one of the best wrestling books ever written, chief. Nothing shattered here. I had this "perception" long before I read Brets book & it isn't going anywhere. Booking facts support it 100%. Brets book is a fine read but was ghost written in places. Sorry to piss on your fries but there's plenty inaccurate in it....by his own admission. Also what Bret thinks Vince was going to do and what Vince was actually going to do? very very different things. Also I bought Brets book day #1. Fantastic book thats its obvious we've all read so yeah. |
|
|
|
Post by JokerFC on Sept 6, 2022 8:35:18 GMT -5
In a perfect world Davey would hold on to it until the Rumble where he drops it to HBK there. Then they can bring back Marty for the Rockers implosion at Mania IX Probably the most likely plan. HBK wins it dirty maybe by interference setting up DBS Mania feud so distract him from HBK. I think Vince had big plans for him. |
|
|
|
Post by hitmancmedge on Sept 7, 2022 17:47:59 GMT -5
Davey was also penciled in to be Doink’s first feud too as well.
|
|
|
|
Post by JokerFC on Sept 7, 2022 20:22:25 GMT -5
Davey was also penciled in to be Doink’s first feud too as well. I read someplace...or heard on a shoot...or something that Crush basically slotted into some of the plans for Davey. |
|
|
|
Post by hitmancmedge on Sept 8, 2022 6:39:29 GMT -5
Saturday Nights Main Event was taped before Bulldog and Warrior got busted for steroids too right? So they plan was to take the belt off him before all that happened.
|
|
Warriah'
Main Eventer
Joined on: Dec 22, 2019 19:46:02 GMT -5
Posts: 3,261
|
Post by Warriah' on Sept 8, 2022 6:58:48 GMT -5
I don't think it's unreasonable that Davey's run was always intended to be short but was simply made shorter by his drug problems and what went down at SS.
|
|
TheEvilDoink1987
Main Eventer
Joined on: Feb 22, 2010 21:37:52 GMT -5
Posts: 2,807
|
Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Sept 8, 2022 20:26:34 GMT -5
With what transpired after his big SummerSlam win at Wembley, I think that Davey lost Vince's trust.
He slowly built it back up once he returned in 1994 through the beginning of his heel run in 1995, but one factor that may have been the nail in the coffin regarding Vince's faith in Davey as a true World champion contender is when Bulldog requested his release in 1996 and was threatening to make the jump to WCW. This was a tough time for Vince as he had just lost Hall and Nash who were tearing it up in WCW along with Hogan while the WWF ate their dust. He needed everybody on deck just to help keep them afloat and here you have Davey playing hardball with his contract.
Nothing wrong with getting paid what you think you are worth, however, taking that stance during such a rocky time for the company may have written Davey off in Vince's eyes. He would remain a featured performer on the roster just never somebody who they trusted to hold the big belt.
None of this even factored in his substance abuse issues which were likely no secret to management and stunted his position on the card.
|
|
|
|
Post by JokerFC on Sept 8, 2022 23:48:20 GMT -5
Saturday Nights Main Event was taped before Bulldog and Warrior got busted for steroids too right? So they plan was to take the belt off him before all that happened. Yeah it was....but that's a different issue really. |
|
|
|
Post by CM Tusk on Sept 10, 2022 18:48:29 GMT -5
Personally think his tag run with Owens was his best post Bulldogs work. I like Davey’s work overall but definitely never saw him as a world champion.
|
|
nibs92
Main Eventer
Joined on: May 29, 2008 5:47:21 GMT -5
Posts: 2,351
|
Post by nibs92 on Sept 11, 2022 1:46:32 GMT -5
Maybe I feel this way as it never happened but was never a serious contender for me. A great performer and good use of him to freshen up the main event from time to time but just didn’t have the “it” factor to be a credible champ.
|
|
|
|
Post by JokerFC on Sept 14, 2022 4:51:05 GMT -5
Maybe I feel this way as it never happened but was never a serious contender for me. A great performer and good use of him to freshen up the main event from time to time but just didn’t have the “it” factor to be a credible champ. At one point he did IMO...but as stated above? He crapthe bed with Vince. |
|
|
|
Post by cordless2016 on Sept 14, 2022 8:03:19 GMT -5
The only time I viewed Davey as a legit top-guy was in 1992 when he was challenging Vader for the WCW Title. I always liked Bulldog, but he always fit best as an upper mid-carder, sometimes main eventer in my book. He kept things fresh in the main event once in a while but was at his best in tag teams or fighting for mid-card titles.
|
|
Taylor
Superstar
Joined on: Dec 21, 2013 4:41:06 GMT -5
Posts: 798 
|
Post by Taylor on Sept 14, 2022 10:20:24 GMT -5
Bingo. Also I don't buy the short reign thing for one second never have & never will.....so Vince relegates Warrior vs Savage to the middle(this is 1992 remember) gives DBS the big win in his home country on PPV in the final match......only for him to lose it clean and look like a complete fool a few months after to HBK? Nah. Yeah, I'm not sure about the timeframe. Once it was announced that Summer Slam was going to be in England, at Wembley Stadium, the IC match was switched from Bret/Shawn to Bret/Davey. After winning the IC Title, the end result was for Davey Boy to always drop it to Shawn, though, I have never heard that it was to be so soon after Summer Slam. The original IC match at Survivor Series was supposed to be Davey Boy vs. the Mountie; I assume this was to give Davey Boy a big win at his first PPV. If Davey Boy was going to face the Mountie at Survivor Series for the IC title, then it would appear that Bulldog was going to hold onto the IC title until RR93, at least. Also, the original plan was for Flair to still have the WWF Title at Survivor Series. I believe Bret and Shawn were just going to have a match at the PPV to end their feud.   My guess is plans were changed in September/early October. it has also been rumored that Vince was souring on Flair, Savage and Davey Boy at this time. It has also been mentioned that Vince did not like the match between Macho and Flair when Flair won the title back (both Razor and Bret have commented on this), apparently Vince was very angry with the whole thing. Then, Flair gets the inner ear injury which caused him to have equilibrium issues, forcing the WWF to do a quick title change. I believe this was also when Vince decided it was time to change things and go younger. As for the IC Title situation, Vince was upset that at the biggest moment of his career, Davey chose not to be in his right mind by going out all night and doing drugs. My guess would be that this was most likely when Vince decided to make the change, and he was probably waiting for the first big, televised event to do so, which ended up being Saturday Night's Main Event in October. Great read! Really enjoyed this post. Thanks. |
|
|
|
Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 14, 2022 18:18:38 GMT -5
I would've loved him to have a short run in late 99. He could've had Big Shows spot where he wins at Survivor Series and then drops it before the Rumble.
|
|
