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Post by JokerFC on Oct 11, 2022 6:43:50 GMT -5
Prichard, Cornette & Ross all say the same thing....Vince was enamored with Sable the moment he met her.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 11, 2022 6:44:42 GMT -5
i'm not sure if it was injuries, but simmons seemed to have really slowed down by 97 in comparison to his wcw years. I think it was injuries & having to change his style a bit
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Post by Old Zeke on Oct 11, 2022 8:33:40 GMT -5
Prichard, Cornette & Ross all say the same thing....Vince was enamored with Sable the moment he met her. And that type of "enamorment" with women is what's got him sitting at home on his arse for the rest of his natural.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 11, 2022 14:19:30 GMT -5
Prichard, Cornette & Ross all say the same thing....Vince was enamored with Sable the moment he met her. You know what's funny in all that, I was 15 yrs old - 18 yrs old during Sable's WWF time period there from 96 - 99, and I never once thought she was hot. She always came off as like a mother or school teacher type of woman even then.
For me, it was Sunny. She looked like the high school girl that you would see in the hallways. So the fact that Vince went for Sable over Sunny as the "hot" one is just crazy to me!
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 12, 2022 5:04:02 GMT -5
Prichard, Cornette & Ross all say the same thing....Vince was enamored with Sable the moment he met her. You know what's funny in all that, I was 15 yrs old - 18 yrs old during Sable's WWF time period there from 96 - 99, and I never once thought she was hot. She always came off as like a mother or school teacher type of woman even then.
For me, it was Sunny. She looked like the high school girl that you would see in the hallways. So the fact that Vince went for Sable over Sunny as the "hot" one is just crazy to me!
something similar here man.....I was 16 when Sable was introduced at WM12 and I was all about Sunny then. I never really got onto the Sable train at all.....
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Post by MKSavage on Oct 12, 2022 8:19:48 GMT -5
Prichard, Cornette & Ross all say the same thing....Vince was enamored with Sable the moment he met her. You know what's funny in all that, I was 15 yrs old - 18 yrs old during Sable's WWF time period there from 96 - 99, and I never once thought she was hot. She always came off as like a mother or school teacher type of woman even then.
For me, it was Sunny. She looked like the high school girl that you would see in the hallways. So the fact that Vince went for Sable over Sunny as the "hot" one is just crazy to me!
You know what's funny in all that, I was 15 yrs old - 18 yrs old during Sable's WWF time period there from 96 - 99, and I never once thought she was hot. She always came off as like a mother or school teacher type of woman even then.
For me, it was Sunny. She looked like the high school girl that you would see in the hallways. So the fact that Vince went for Sable over Sunny as the "hot" one is just crazy to me!
something similar here man.....I was 16 when Sable was introduced at WM12 and I was all about Sunny then. I never really got onto the Sable train at all..... Sable was good looking, but like you guys, I was more into Sunny... Shame what has become of her and her life.
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Post by The Brain on Oct 12, 2022 8:30:29 GMT -5
You know what's funny in all that, I was 15 yrs old - 18 yrs old during Sable's WWF time period there from 96 - 99, and I never once thought she was hot. She always came off as like a mother or school teacher type of woman even then.
For me, it was Sunny. She looked like the high school girl that you would see in the hallways. So the fact that Vince went for Sable over Sunny as the "hot" one is just crazy to me!
something similar here man.....I was 16 when Sable was introduced at WM12 and I was all about Sunny then. I never really got onto the Sable train at all..... Sable was good looking, but like you guys, I was more into Sunny... Shame what has become of her and her life. Glad I got that old WWF Jakks fig of her signed last year during a virtual as I dont see her doing any more signings...
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Post by nibs92 on Oct 12, 2022 12:49:31 GMT -5
You know what's funny in all that, I was 15 yrs old - 18 yrs old during Sable's WWF time period there from 96 - 99, and I never once thought she was hot. She always came off as like a mother or school teacher type of woman even then.
For me, it was Sunny. She looked like the high school girl that you would see in the hallways. So the fact that Vince went for Sable over Sunny as the "hot" one is just crazy to me! something similar here man.....I was 16 when Sable was introduced at WM12 and I was all about Sunny then. I never really got onto the Sable train at all..... Sable was good looking, but like you guys, I was more into Sunny... Shame what has become of her and her life. I always thought sable had a bit of a Debbie Harry look about her (not as hot as DH though) but I was sunny all the way as well!
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Post by MKSavage on Oct 12, 2022 14:02:18 GMT -5
Sable was good looking, but like you guys, I was more into Sunny... Shame what has become of her and her life. I always thought sable had a bit of a Debbie Harry look about her (not as hot as DH though) but I was sunny all the way as well! Yeah, Sunny and Keibler were my two favorites.
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Post by nibs92 on Oct 12, 2022 15:19:03 GMT -5
I always thought sable had a bit of a Debbie Harry look about her (not as hot as DH though) but I was sunny all the way as well! Yeah, Sunny and Keibler were my two favorites. Excellent choices! Keibler was a stunner as well.
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Post by Grenouille on Oct 12, 2022 15:24:16 GMT -5
Add another to team Sunny. That November/December’96 issue of Raw magazine was very popular in the schoolyard.😂
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 12, 2022 15:42:27 GMT -5
Watching the Attitude Era back, you can keep Sunny and Sable. I’d take Chyna as my dommy mommy.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 12, 2022 21:38:26 GMT -5
Sable....still nuts to think that in 99 (3 years after she debuted) only Austin & Undertaker were the only ones on more $$$ than her.
Had her ego not completely out of hand? Lord knows what her limit would have been in showbiz...because like her or not? She was crazy over. Colossal part of Vinces success.
Man I love when Cornette vents about her 🤣🤣
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 12, 2022 23:42:10 GMT -5
Add another to team Sunny. That November/December’96 issue of Raw magazine was very popular in the schoolyard.😂
I still own it and I joked with my girlfriend the other night how I should pay tribute to it with an old school "session" while looking at the pictures. My girlfriend goes, "do you think photos of a girl you enjoyed in your teenage years could still get ya there now if you look at them??" To me, that is a challenge accepted! Ha ha ha
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Post by hbkjason on Oct 13, 2022 0:48:44 GMT -5
To join in the whole Sable and Sunny debate, I am like Tommy Dreamer, I am hardcore, I can take both Let me tell you those RAW magazines during this time with their photospreads were a major highlight of my teenage years! Also, to not completely make this post in the gutter, it really does suck the way things turned out for Vader! The video packages before the Rumble were great and made me think we were getting monster, Vader! Then he gets dumped out by HBK with no effort at all in the actual Rumble. It is a pity Bret took time off when he did as I said on here before, I think Bret could have brought out the monster in Vader much better than Shawn Michaels did. Had Bret stayed, have Vader and Bret feud while Shawn and Davey are going at it and then Vader could have become the number one contender for SummerSlam by beating Bret at King of the Ring or something like that.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 14, 2022 19:46:17 GMT -5
As Austin said to Foley " Jesus Christ they got Leon bumping like a pinball for Shawn...all he has to do is lose 200lbs to be able to pull that off"
Prichard seems to dodge truth about Vader...says his heart wasnt in it blah blah blah......JR seems to say his weight and unwillingness to get in shape was factor for why he didnt get on well...
But neither of the above explain why Vader was turned into a cowardly heel at his size. Its mind boggling seeing him run all the time..... Then you look at Halls last match on PPV for WWF he nearly effin beats Vader( Vinces new top heel) while Vince creams himself over RR. Vader had no chance.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 15, 2022 2:13:05 GMT -5
Once Vader went from one of the top heels in wrestling to the villain of the month for Hulkamania to steamroll he was doomed. Should have been in the spot Vince gave Sid. Have Vader beat Shawn at Summerslam and then Shawn win it back at the Rumble. Then should have had him defending against Taker at 13.
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Post by JokerFC on Oct 15, 2022 15:14:05 GMT -5
Sids huge surge in popularity def hurt Vader too....no doubt about it. Sid beating him at Buried Alive was all she wrote for Leon in WWF. It was clear then Vince had no intention of using him...despite a resurgence in his booking in early 97 it still was never gonna happen.
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Post by MKSavage on Oct 15, 2022 17:08:32 GMT -5
Once Vader went from one of the top heels in wrestling to the villain of the month for Hulkamania to steamroll he was doomed. Should have been in the spot Vince gave Sid. Have Vader beat Shawn at Summerslam and then Shawn win it back at the Rumble. Then should have had him defending against Taker at 13. That was supposed/rumored to be the case. Vader was supposed to win the belt from Shawn at the Survivor Series 1996 then lose it back to HBK at RR97. Had that happened, chances are he would have been in Sid's spot to win the belt from Bret on Raw after the fatal four-way, which most likely would have meant him vs Taker at WM13. But, after Vader's match with HBK at Summer Slam 96, Shawn complained to Vince about Vader (not being safe, not ready for the spot) so Vince moved the returning Sid (who Shawn liked working with) into Vader's spot.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 15, 2022 19:44:19 GMT -5
Actually if I had the book, Mankind would have beat Shawn at Survivor Series and then I would have had Undertaker return at the Rumble and win. But I guess will Shawn/Bret 2 being the original plan, that wouldn’t work.
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