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Post by AxelSmackdown on Jan 2, 2023 20:10:00 GMT -5
just wait until after they come in stock for a couple months then they’ll be down around retail or cheaper. you don’t have to pre-order and pay the high prices
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Jan 3, 2023 12:24:13 GMT -5
Everyone doesn’t know this, but RSC’s first wave price is for the shipping cost to get them first. They literally fly them overnight from the manufacturer overseas. The increase is so those that want them first can pay the extra to have them a couple (or few) months ahead of retail. It’s what sets RSC apart from about 90% of other online retailers that receive their first wave of new figures after the container vessel is offloaded at the nearest port, sorted and driven over to them or their distribution centers. Outside of new members here and people who aren’t on this forum, that’s all very well no information. No secret at all as to why Ringside logistically sell their figures/pre-orders at the price point they do. Everything is getting more expensive. Especially collectibles. It’s all just a matter of asking yourself “Can I realistically afford this?” Oh I get it, but the way the OP explained his position made it sound like he didn’t understand RSC’s policies, instead labeled it as “marketing strategy” to get people to pay the higher prices. And then no one mentioned it in any replies, so I thought I’d lend a helping hand.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 3, 2023 12:28:54 GMT -5
The key to collecting is patience. In a 5 figure series there's always going to be at least 3 peg warmers at retail (and even online shops). Stop paying "Gotta have it first" prices from online retailers and just wait. Everything retail is supply & demand. If you keep demanding it, they're gonna keep marking it up and supplying it to you.
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Post by crush on Jan 3, 2023 12:49:17 GMT -5
All the arguments about inflation in here, while valid overall are only tangentially related to RSC. Yes, RSC's preorder prices have gone up thanks to inflation, but said preorder prices have ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be high because they are for premium pre-retail shipments. As others have said, pretty much every figure goes to roughly retail once they're in stock, and drops below (sometimes WAY below) retail during the various sales every couple of months. In other words, pretty much every figure Is going to have a window on RSC/Amazon/brick & mortar retail/etc. where it's at or below MSRP (which is where inflation is an issue with raising prices, but that's another topic)and the only reason to pay preorder prices is to guarantee getting figures faster, which is worth it to some (including me, for certain figures I really want). Also, weird timing for. thread on this TBH considering we're coming off a month where RSC was clearing out inventory at like >$10 per Elite.
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Jan 3, 2023 13:49:48 GMT -5
All the arguments about inflation in here, while valid overall are only tangentially related to RSC. Yes, RSC's preorder prices have gone up thanks to inflation, but said preorder prices have ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be high because they are for premium pre-retail shipments. As others have said, pretty much every figure goes to roughly retail once they're in stock, and drops below (sometimes WAY below) retail during the various sales every couple of months. In other words, pretty much every figure Is going to have a window on RSC/Amazon/brick & mortar retail/etc. where it's at or below MSRP (which is where inflation is an issue with raising prices, but that's another topic)and the only reason to pay preorder prices is to guarantee getting figures faster, which is worth it to some (including me, for certain figures I really want). Also, weird timing for. thread on this TBH considering we're coming off a month where RSC was clearing out inventory at like >$10 per Elite. Not really weird timing for this thread considering most everything RSC put on sale was either something I already have or had no interest in buying … I understand that almost all figures will eventually drop in price after they’ve been out for a bit but even if they do drop down to a reasonable price that makes them even harder to find in stores (or online the majority of the time) unless you’re in the right place at the right time & who has the time to go search everyday? (I certainly don’t) … Besides, the supply never seems to meet the demand which is yet another issue altogether … The price may drop yes but finding them on time is a problem which leads to having to pay scalper prices on eBay or other websites because a lot of the times they’ll sell out in mere minutes after they go on sale … So in the end what are you supposed to do if it’s something you really want?? … The answer is obvious, pay ridiculously high prices
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Post by redrooster on Jan 3, 2023 15:14:07 GMT -5
Being patient is hard but financially it will save you a good bit of coin in the long run. This past year, I got swept up in pre order hype a lot. Only to see full Elite series, including chases, be marked down below retail in following months. My collecting is going to take a big step back this year, with prices seemingly continuing to go up and the speed at which stuff is coming out…it’s just too much on the wallet.
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Post by crush on Jan 3, 2023 15:20:03 GMT -5
All the arguments about inflation in here, while valid overall are only tangentially related to RSC. Yes, RSC's preorder prices have gone up thanks to inflation, but said preorder prices have ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be high because they are for premium pre-retail shipments. As others have said, pretty much every figure goes to roughly retail once they're in stock, and drops below (sometimes WAY below) retail during the various sales every couple of months. In other words, pretty much every figure Is going to have a window on RSC/Amazon/brick & mortar retail/etc. where it's at or below MSRP (which is where inflation is an issue with raising prices, but that's another topic)and the only reason to pay preorder prices is to guarantee getting figures faster, which is worth it to some (including me, for certain figures I really want). Also, weird timing for. thread on this TBH considering we're coming off a month where RSC was clearing out inventory at like >$10 per Elite. Not really weird timing for this thread considering most everything RSC put on sale was either something I already have or had no interest in buying … I understand that almost all figures will eventually drop in price after they’ve been out for a bit but even if they do drop down to a reasonable price that makes them even harder to find in stores (or online the majority of the time) unless you’re in the right place at the right time & who has the time to go search everyday? (I certainly don’t) … Besides, the supply never seems to meet the demand which is yet another issue altogether … The price may drop yes but finding them on time is a problem which leads to having to pay scalper prices on eBay or other websites because a lot of the times they’ll sell out in mere minutes after they go on sale … So in the end what are you supposed to do if it’s something you really want?? … The answer is obvious, pay ridiculously high prices 1. It's not when they've been "out for a while" it's when they're actually at mass retail, which is months after RSC's early shipment. 2. Is there any mainline Elite that wasn't available on RSC (let alone Amazon or etc.) for an extended period of time once they hit actual retail this past year?
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Post by Scott! on Jan 3, 2023 15:22:42 GMT -5
With Mattel's in the UK, I think it's mad to pay full price right away or even inflated prices early. 99% of the figures go on sale withing two weeks of them hitting the store, it's ridiculous.
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Jan 3, 2023 16:18:07 GMT -5
Not really weird timing for this thread considering most everything RSC put on sale was either something I already have or had no interest in buying … I understand that almost all figures will eventually drop in price after they’ve been out for a bit but even if they do drop down to a reasonable price that makes them even harder to find in stores (or online the majority of the time) unless you’re in the right place at the right time & who has the time to go search everyday? (I certainly don’t) … Besides, the supply never seems to meet the demand which is yet another issue altogether … The price may drop yes but finding them on time is a problem which leads to having to pay scalper prices on eBay or other websites because a lot of the times they’ll sell out in mere minutes after they go on sale … So in the end what are you supposed to do if it’s something you really want?? … The answer is obvious, pay ridiculously high prices 1. It's not when they've been "out for a while" it's when they're actually at mass retail, which is months after RSC's early shipment. 2. Is there any mainline Elite that wasn't available on RSC (let alone Amazon or etc.) for an extended period of time once they hit actual retail this past year? Valid points, there’s truth there … But from what I’ve seen in the past RSC & others do have series for extended periods of time, however, it usually isn’t the whole entire sets … See I don’t collect today’s superstars ( actually don’t even watch it these days ) I collect old school names/legends (mostly Nwa, Wcw & certain golden era Wwf) & those are the ones that are usually always missing from their stock because they’re the most popular … Even if they do manage to have some of them they’re almost always more expensive than the rest of the set … Plus, if the Walmarts in my area actually do get the Elite series then the classics are the ones that always go first because they don’t seem to be as many of them in a case as the rest of the set for whatever reason … Bottom line is I’d love to be able to walk into Walmart or Target (if I had one nearby) & pick them up for the $22 price tag … I sorely miss the days of having all the toy stores, Kmarts & others where you could find them hanging on the pegs just about anytime … Back when stores would get more than one shipment per case or whatever & they would restock each series a couple or a few times before they completely sold out … Different times I know but those days were much much easier for collecting
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Post by rastlinfigures on Jan 3, 2023 16:54:23 GMT -5
With the exception of exclusives, that is largely a result of getting early access to the figures (accounting for the pricier, earlier shipping method Ringside uses to get the figures to them earlier than retail). After a month or two of being in stock, the prices typically go way down - often below the price they stay at retail. If you cannot stomach the initial prices, wait. It's a matter of supply and demand.
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Post by Rock-Is-King on Jan 3, 2023 17:05:51 GMT -5
With the exception of exclusives, that is largely a result of getting early access to the figures (accounting for the pricier, earlier shipping method Ringside uses to get the figures to them earlier than retail). After a month or two of being in stock, the prices typically go way down - often below the price they stay at retail. If you cannot stomach the initial prices, wait. It's a matter of supply and demand. The matter of supply & demand goes back to the point I made about it in my last post
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Post by Lucas Legacy on Jan 3, 2023 17:21:39 GMT -5
I was really hoping to see a Millionaires Club display with Mattel figures... such a disappointment....
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Post by Lucas Legacy on Jan 3, 2023 17:23:35 GMT -5
I was really hoping to see a Millionaires Club display with Mattel figures... such a disappointment.... And now I'm realizing that I was picturing the Main Event Mafia in my head. I have no desire to see a Millionaires Club display.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 3, 2023 19:01:51 GMT -5
Take a deep breath and calm down. Ringside Collectibles and Mattel are not masterminding some conspiracy to keep toys away from your local stores. 😂
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Jan 3, 2023 19:24:50 GMT -5
Take a deep breath and calm down. Ringside Collectibles and Mattel are not masterminding some conspiracy to keep toys away from your local stores. 😂 I am a Mattel American
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Post by crush on Jan 3, 2023 20:25:25 GMT -5
1. It's not when they've been "out for a while" it's when they're actually at mass retail, which is months after RSC's early shipment. 2. Is there any mainline Elite that wasn't available on RSC (let alone Amazon or etc.) for an extended period of time once they hit actual retail this past year? Valid points, there’s truth there … But from what I’ve seen in the past RSC & others do have series for extended periods of time, however, it usually isn’t the whole entire sets … See I don’t collect today’s superstars ( actually don’t even watch it these days ) I collect old school names/legends (mostly Nwa, Wcw & certain golden era Wwf) & those are the ones that are usually always missing from their stock because they’re the most popular … Even if they do manage to have some of them they’re almost always more expensive than the rest of the set … Plus, if the Walmarts in my area actually do get the Elite series then the classics are the ones that always go first because they don’t seem to be as many of them in a case as the rest of the set for whatever reason … Bottom line is I’d love to be able to walk into Walmart or Target (if I had one nearby) & pick them up for the $22 price tag … I sorely miss the days of having all the toy stores, Kmarts & others where you could find them hanging on the pegs just about anytime … Back when stores would get more than one shipment per case or whatever & they would restock each series a couple or a few times before they completely sold out … Different times I know but those days were much much easier for collecting I‘ll agree with you for sure in missing brick and mortar stores as well, but as far as supply and demand goes I honestly can’t remember any mainline throwback or legend figure in the last couple of years from the main lines that RSC didn’t have in seemingly ample supply for retail or lower for a while at least.
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