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Post by jason88cubs on Mar 5, 2023 18:22:36 GMT -5
what are some of the worst debuts you can think of?
One I will pick is Hak(The Sandman) in WCW
He appeared first match vs Bam Bam on NItro and lost within 5 minutes. Can't find video on it now but I remember just thinking, what kin of debut is that???!! You have him job out that quick?
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Post by Evil Abed on Mar 5, 2023 18:36:03 GMT -5
Cant leave this thread without saying Shockmaster. But that feels like the obvious.
Sin Cara tripping over his entrance trampoline spot pretty much spelled out how his career was going to go.
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Post by The Brain on Mar 5, 2023 20:57:21 GMT -5
The Yetttttttayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!  So bad that he became a ninja right after it...  |
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Post by bige on Mar 5, 2023 23:19:22 GMT -5
The pirate on smackdown in 2005 or 2006 what’s he’s name
Karzaniy another
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 6, 2023 8:50:20 GMT -5
Berlyn. He had hype videos that seemed very outdated even by 1999. Very one-dimensional character. Initial promos were made to look like worn-out VHS footage.
Supposed to face Buff Bagwell in his first match. Instead faced Jim Duggan. And didn't wow the crowd at all.
The next few weeks he made no impact whatsoever and feuded with a perennial lower card Brad Armstrong.
Got beat up by Armstrong backstage on one episode of Nitro, stood right back up immediately after, looked Armstrong dead in the eye and backed down.
Crappy finisher. Boring wrestling skills.
The Wall was the only intriguing thing to come of it and initially it was an incredibly slow burn.
It wasn't surprised that Alex Wright was dead in the water straight after his Berlyn debut.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Mar 6, 2023 10:15:56 GMT -5
The Ascension's main roster debut gave me Shockmaster flashbacks. Kizarny too. Primo Colon. Botch Cara etc. The WCW race car driver gimmick that got injured first night in from doing his finish.
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Post by jason88cubs on Mar 6, 2023 11:20:49 GMT -5
The Ascension's main roster debut gave me Shockmaster flashbacks. Kizarny too. Primo Colon. Botch Cara etc. The WCW race car driver gimmick that got injured first night in from doing his finish. what was the WCW race car gimmick? Looked it up but didn't see anything |
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Mar 6, 2023 12:50:49 GMT -5
The Ascension's main roster debut gave me Shockmaster flashbacks. Kizarny too. Primo Colon. Botch Cara etc. The WCW race car driver gimmick that got injured first night in from doing his finish. what was the WCW race car gimmick? Looked it up but didn't see anything Dale Torborg |
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Post by Scott! on Mar 6, 2023 13:06:40 GMT -5
Mordecai, just because of how well I think it could have went, but went nowhere and was done in 3 weeks. There was potential there, but scrapped too fast.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 6, 2023 17:22:42 GMT -5
Jimmy Wang Yang. Had a bunch of videos for weeks to introduce the gimmick and then jobs to Sylvan Grenier in his first match.
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Post by Angusdacat on Mar 6, 2023 17:53:12 GMT -5
The pirate on smackdown in 2005 or 2006 what’s he’s name Karzaniy another Paul Burchull was the pirate. Kizarney was just some circus guy. Understandable mixup because 2005-2006 was the jackpot of horrible gimmicks and debuts. |
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Post by bige on Mar 6, 2023 23:35:46 GMT -5
The pirate on smackdown in 2005 or 2006 what’s he’s name Karzaniy another Paul Burchull was the pirate. Kizarney was just some circus guy. Understandable mixup because 2005-2006 was the jackpot of horrible gimmicks and debuts. They were times having a few weeks then gone |
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Mar 7, 2023 10:30:16 GMT -5
Mordecai, just because of how well I think it could have went, but went nowhere and was done in 3 weeks. There was potential there, but scrapped too fast. He first said his push was stopped because he was in a bar fight & they reprimanded him by having him job to Rey Mysterio. But there's others that say why it was really stopped. Quite embarrassing. |
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Post by PJ on Mar 7, 2023 13:54:23 GMT -5
Shock Master
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 7, 2023 15:07:48 GMT -5
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Post by Jackass Pacific on Mar 8, 2023 20:04:21 GMT -5
Mordecai, just because of how well I think it could have went, but went nowhere and was done in 3 weeks. There was potential there, but scrapped too fast. He first said his push was stopped because he was in a bar fight & they reprimanded him by having him job to Rey Mysterio. But there's others that say why it was really stopped. Quite embarrassing. i googled it and could only find the bar fight as a reason. curiosity has the best of me and i’ve gotta ask…what’s the other reason? |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 9, 2023 19:51:11 GMT -5
He first said his push was stopped because he was in a bar fight & they reprimanded him by having him job to Rey Mysterio. But there's others that say why it was really stopped. Quite embarrassing. i googled it and could only find the bar fight as a reason. curiosity has the best of me and i’ve gotta ask…what’s the other reason? From what I heard Kevin Fertig was suffering from stage fright at the time and was struggling to make the gimmick work. Shame really because he played Kevin Thorn really well. Had someone else played Mordecai the character could be legendary right now. |
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Post by jason88cubs on Mar 9, 2023 20:11:49 GMT -5
i googled it and could only find the bar fight as a reason. curiosity has the best of me and i’ve gotta ask…what’s the other reason? From what I heard Kevin Fertig was suffering from stage fright at the time and was struggling to make the gimmick work. Shame really because he played Kevin Thorn really well. Had someone else played Mordecai the character could be legendary right now. I really liked Kevin Thorn! |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Mar 9, 2023 20:46:25 GMT -5
From what I heard Kevin Fertig was suffering from stage fright at the time and was struggling to make the gimmick work. Shame really because he played Kevin Thorn really well. Had someone else played Mordecai the character could be legendary right now. I really liked Kevin Thorn! Same, he was one of the highlights of WWECW. |
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