OFFICIAL Ultimate WCW Nitro Entrance Crowdfund Thread

I can list five reasons why this didn’t get enough backers without even giving it a second thought.

1. Figure selection
2. International Shipping
3. Price
4. Timing
5. Waited too long to market it.

We could go on and on but these were major missteps in getting this thing the traction needed. It wasn’t like the New Gen arena where people were really really happy with the figure selection. It was almost universally people saying there would take the figures, to they were alright, to they weren’t needed, to I don’t want these figures at all.

With No.2 probably being the main reason it didn't slide past 5k.

I do think we need to be careful with talking generalities

1. People say there’s a limit fans will spend - while that’s potentially true it had other factors to consider (time of year, cost of living crisis, people still negatively impacted by pandemic etc). Had there not been such high inflation etc people may have been more willing to put their hand in their pocket

2. People say there’s no desire for big items - while again there’s a limit for people a lot will make exceptions if it’s the right product

3. People say we need to stay out of the 90s - again I think it friends on the product more than the era. Arguably the new gen era is the most poorly remembered yet it best something from a much more popular era.

It needs to be:

The right item, at the right size, accompanied with the right figures, from the right era, at the right price point, with the right societal background and released at the right time.

As I’ve said all along and it’s bore out from the reasons people didn’t back there’s no singular reason this failed.

I think a new angle I have been thinking about to look at this is: maybe having figures as the unlockable tiers is a problem.

Not saying it should be eliminated but it was a huge point of contention.

Many people saw this as “well we aren’t gonna make it to DDP. It’s not making it to Warrior. It’s not making it to Hogan. Why should I back it?

People saw the value in the price as the stage PLUS 5 figures. They immediately see this as a bad value when you realize there’s only a slim chance you’ll get multiple figures.

It gives some people unrealistic expectations to a point and it works as a domino effect. Every single person who decided they didn’t want to back this was one less person moving the needle, which caused others to second guess if they should back it or not.

If Mattel would’ve found a way to make the stage a little less complex and save some money on that, and add 1-2 figures to come with the item, I think more people would’ve jumped in. Maybe they could shave a bit of size of the stage base or take off a few of the 100 LEDs it has. The stage plus 4 figures as the base offering has a lot more appeal at this price tag.

The additional tiers could’ve been a number of things. Hogan’s WCW motorcycle. Announce table set. Mean Gene with a few microphones. Maybe some interchangeable PPV/Thunder logos even though it wouldn’t be 100% accurate. Or whatever else!

But really, people want FIGURES. Especially at this price. I think they could’ve probably even charged a bit more than $400 if it included more figures at the base level. People would’ve perceived more value out of the set.

If they do the Raw is War stage next PLEASE Bill & Steve you have to work with WWE to get us Rare FTITL figures. The casual fan is not gonna drop $400+ on this. The people who backed this were HARDCORE niche fans. We don't want the same old figures that have already been released 10-20 times already. If yall do the Raw is War next id suggest instead of the normal boring ( Austin, Rock, Taker, HHH) figs you make them all stuff that would never see the light of day at any retailer.

UE Mideon
UE Gangral - If you can't use that name just call him "The Brood" on the packaging
UE Sacrificed Stephanie
UE Paul Bearer with brown hair

Make one of the tiers the undertakers cross that you can hang Steph from that attaches to the stage.

Remember this is not for retail so you dont need the A list wrestlers attached. Plus we already have Attitude era Taker and Kane UE released.

Work with WWE to get them to sign more random guys.

Mattel, can we get the figures now? If not regular release @ $33/ea how about made to order like Logan Paul @ $45/ea?

Mattel, work with WWE to get more guys signed. 

I know people wanna play Monday morning quarterback, present company included, but I do appreciate the efforts of Action Figure Attack, MattelDesignTeam, and everyone else at Mattel involved in trying to give us something we wouldn’t be able to ever get at retail. Sucks that we fell short.

I suggested maybe do a crowdfunding for just the figures... something around $200-$250 seems reasonable - either in a special boxset, or each individually packaged inside a large Nitro case/box. I think it would sell.