OFFICIAL Ultimate WCW Nitro Entrance Crowdfund Thread

I blame Eric Bischoff

I hate to beat a dead horse, but I really do think if they gave us Steiner, one "anchor" legend, and then figures that were more special rather than just new versions of Rey, DDP, Hogan, Warrior, it could have happened. Same thing if they had found a way to fix international shipping.

We'll never know -- and neither will Mattel. That stage was so cool; shame it won't exist.

I'm sort of thinking that - if the whole project DEPENDS on what figures are offered? Then maybe it wasn't meant to be....

The stage was amazing and SHOULD have sold 5000 units on it's own merit, with zero figures.... but it didn't. The figures were designed to be an incentive to reach those higher tiers & sell EXTRA stages, and add excitement..... but the stage should have reached 5K on it's own. It did not.

Which means that fans simply didn't think the stage with two bonus figures was worth $400 (or $600 for international collectors). That's the pill that Mattel needs to swallow. The product wasn't worth what Mattel needed to charge.

I think the sad thing is that this probably would have gotten funded if the international pricing wasn't so high. Though, I don't know how much control Mattel has over that. I think there probably would have been enough people outside of the U.S. to back it if the pricing were different - the main complaints I heard were having to pay customs upfront instead of at delivery, and lack of payment options. And if the international backers pushed it far enough past the first tier, almost to the second tier, I wonder how many people who were on the fence and didn't back it would have now that they were guaranteed the Stage, Rey, Scott and DDP was in reach. Such a shame though, as the entrance stage was really well done. Who knows, maybe in a few years, if other crowdfund items work, or the economy starts doing better, or if they can find a way to bring the cost down some (if they are maybe somehow able to use the tooling or parts needed for this stage on other projects that get funded), they could try again. 

I think people are too overly concerned about the figure choices. I really don't know who they could have added that would have made people who didn't back the set say, okay, I don't want the stage but I'm going to put down $400+ for that figure. I mean, they did put out 3 of their biggest sellers (Hogan, Warrior, Rey), a first time in the line figure (Steiner), and another wrestler who might not get an Ultimate Edition figure otherwise (DDP). They don't have the rights to Sting. We've already gotten a Ric Flair figure. Maybe they could have added Hall & Nash, but Nash as Diesel really didn't do much for the New Generation Set. And we've pretty much gotten all their main looks from their WCW days as elites. 

I don’t see them ever fixing the international stuff for any future campaigns.

Sometime after the new gen arena the entire site changed and they jacked up the price on every product for international buyers.

They charge taxes on items that don’t meet the threshold. Most likely the unexplained surcharge is a mix of some kind of fee for paying the tax on your behalf, a fee for paying in your local currency, and hidden postage fees.

They aren’t going to fix the entire site for just one crowdfunded item. They changed it to make more money. Obviously hurting the consumer in the process.

Had they launched this before they changed the site it’d have hit 5k and DDP easily.

NOT important.

I still love the look of the plastic spotlights on my TTL stage that don't even have LEDs in them. 

I'd love to keep a few lights but I am not so interested in "100+ LEDs" or the different strobe settings.

I can’t wait till a couple months go by and we stop seeing “Hey Steve, you should have done this instead!”

They weren't that important to me;

That being said - I think Mattel was trying to improve from the lighting system on the New Gen stage, which is awkward; They don't stay on longer than about two minutes and they need to have a battery inside to work at all; there is no option to "plug it in."

I think they were trying to go "next level" with the Nitro stage but it likely did add to the high price tag.

"...but it was a bad showing by the community Mattel..."
Fixed that for you.