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Post by micco on Apr 6, 2023 16:54:13 GMT -5
Just so we are all on the same page, it is being argued that these two figures are different and could not be interchanged for one another. I’m pretty sure both the figures come with heads… are they the same? Are the shirts they come with the same? Are the wrist bands the same? You think because they used the same body mold and he’s wearing yellow tights in both that they are the same figure? News flash, he wore yellow trunks and red knee pads for like 15 years straight. There can be different figures made of him in that span of time and these are different. How different did you think they’d be? Did you think he’d be wearing purple shorts with brown kick pads?
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 6, 2023 16:56:34 GMT -5
I’ll have to say, this board use to be WAY more fun. Seem like just a TON of negativity across the board here now. It’s like people WANT to see this fail for some strange reason I got excited about Classic Superstars Kamala and Papa Shango and then Ricky Starks gave me sh** about it. Joking aside though, I think a factor is a lot of members back in the day were still kids and when it came to figures their parents were still helping with their collecting. Most people here are adults now and having to spend so much when they are going through hard times baby makes them more cynical when higher price points are on things they want. Me personally, the price isn’t the issue, but I can see why it is for some.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 6, 2023 16:59:54 GMT -5
Just so we are all on the same page, it is being argued that these two figures are different and could not be interchanged for one another. You think because they used the same body mold and he’s wearing yellow tights in both that they are the same figure? News flash, he wore yellow trunks and red knee pads for like 15 years straight. There can be different figures made of him in that span of time and these are different. How different did you think they’d be? Did you think he’d be wearing purple shorts with brown kick pads? I love when people prove my point exactly. The figures are 90% identical minus accessories that are easily found elsewhere, thank you for agreeing.
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 6, 2023 17:03:07 GMT -5
You think because they used the same body mold and he’s wearing yellow tights in both that they are the same figure? News flash, he wore yellow trunks and red knee pads for like 15 years straight. There can be different figures made of him in that span of time and these are different. How different did you think they’d be? Did you think he’d be wearing purple shorts with brown kick pads? I love when people prove my point exactly. The figures are 90% identical minus accessories that are easily found elsewhere, thank you for agreeing. Kind of mental he won’t just concede that you can easily achieve Hogan’s WCW look with that ultimate and a custom made shirt.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 6, 2023 17:13:36 GMT -5
I know that "unique", "Hogan", and "WCW" are difficult terms to tie together, but if I were trying to pin the early success of this on a Hogan offering, I'd have definitely come up with a more unique WCW Hogan look. It's tough, too, because they really have cranked out Hogans lately (in spite of what Buddy's Toy Shoppe would have you believe), and Hogan never really strayed too far from the formula.
If it were me, I think I'd have gone Bash at the Beach '96, or the night after (which is gonna be an Elite in the MNW line), and maybe slotted this one in somewhere where either of those options might have landed.
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Post by casanova on Apr 6, 2023 17:18:17 GMT -5
I love when people prove my point exactly. The figures are 90% identical minus accessories that are easily found elsewhere, thank you for agreeing. Kind of mental he won’t just concede that you can achieve Hogan’s WCW look with that ultimate and a custom made shirt. Serious question: Is there any good tailor for shorts in this scale? Better not tell me as I’d probably buy too many. 😆
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Apr 6, 2023 17:19:01 GMT -5
I wonder what the numbers would be right now if the international buyers weren't looking at a substantial price hike. It also doesn't help when they talk about all the upcoming WCW and and attitude era figures that we won't be able to get. It's like a slap in the face. I'm going to try to share my view and try not be as pessimistic as I have in previous posts. As a Canadian collector, when I saw the price in Canadian dollars ($695) I was floored. When doing the math to judge the value of this project, considering that UE figures in Canada retail for $49.99 each, even if all five figures managed to get backed, when factoring in the value of five UE figures into the price that still left the stage at roughly $450 CAD before tax. All in all, should this get made, regardless of how many figures (or which figures) end up coming with it the after tax price for this thing is just a pinch under $800. That's insane, and I hope US collectors can sympathize with why Canadian and other international collectors are so hesitant to support this project. I wanted to back this so badly, but I just can't justify spending this much on something that I'm not even sure I'll be able to display. I have no room to display it now, and even if I were to move in the future why would I buy something this expensive just to keep in the box? I told myself I'd figure out a way to display it one day even though it would likely be in storage, but I keep coming back to the price point. I just don't see the value. Knowing that Hogan is unlikely to be included now only further drops the overall value of this thing for me. To give Mattel their flowers though, this Nitro stage is the thing of dreams. You can tell the passion and hard work that went into creating it, down to the smallest of detail. Aside from the TNT logo not being able to be included, the stage is pretty much spot on. I actually still own the electronic WCW Monday Nitro arena (loose albeit) and am a big fan of WCW. I think a more realistic route for me is to eventually pick up the Nitro ring to get that nWo Bischoff, and make a small display with the various WCW figures I've picked up since 2010 when the line started. This post isn't meant to sway anyone, I just felt like maybe I might have been a bit harsh in previous posts and that's not fair to those who have already supported this or who are debating on it. All of our situations are different, and you gotta do you. Sorry for the rant lol.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 6, 2023 17:30:32 GMT -5
Kind of mental he won’t just concede that you can achieve Hogan’s WCW look with that ultimate and a custom made shirt. Serious question: Is there any good tailor for shorts in this scale? Better not tell me as I’d probably buy too many. 😆 did you mean shirts? Yes there are tons, look up Thread Head Custom Figure Clothing.
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Post by savedbytheringbell on Apr 6, 2023 17:33:57 GMT -5
I just listened to last week’s Major Pod and Cardona did slightly walk back his tweet about the figure community needing to quit if it doesn’t get funded. So slight improvement there…
What’s interesting is he said he’s planning to buy only 4 of the Nitro set versus the 11 he bought of the New Gen set. Of course if this doesn’t get funded, he’ll probably somehow get the prototype.
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 17:44:53 GMT -5
I want the entrance stage. I already supported it on the first day and pre-ordered it, but I want the Raw stage even more.. The ultimate figures that come with the stage are so boring and uninspired. It felt like they didn't want to give you the figures you wanted, because they wanted you to buy those separately. Who who wants another WCW rey mysterio? Nobody. Who wants a repaint of the fan take over hulk hogan amazon exclusive? Nobody. Who wants another repaint of DDP in the same gear? Nobody. Who wants a the most boring and forgettable Steiner outfit? Maybe someone. Who wants a WCW warrior in his entrance gear? Who are these figures for? I don't know.
Considering how stunning this stage is they had to balance it out with crapnobody wanted... Go Figure. Pun intended.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 6, 2023 17:51:57 GMT -5
Won’t lie, that DDP is really growing on me.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 6, 2023 17:52:15 GMT -5
I just listened to last week’s Major Pod and Cardona did slightly walk back his tweet about the figure community needing to quit if it doesn’t get funded. So slight improvement there… What’s interesting is he said he’s planning to buy only 4 of the Nitro set versus the 11 he bought of the New Gen set. Of course if this doesn’t get funded, he’ll probably somehow get the prototype. Why did I have a hunch that Cordona would be a complete dink about it?
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 6, 2023 17:54:26 GMT -5
I want the entrance stage. I already supported it on the first day and pre-ordered it, but I want the Raw stage even more.. The ultimate figures that come with the stage are so boring and uninspired. It felt like they didn't want to give you the figures you wanted, because they wanted you to buy those separately. Who who wants another WCW rey mysterio? Nobody. Who wants a repaint of the fan take over hulk hogan amazon exclusive? Nobody. Who wants another repaint of DDP in the same gear? Nobody. Who wants a the most boring and forgettable Steiner outfit? Maybe someone. Who wants a WCW warrior in his entrance gear? Who are these figures for? I don't know. Considering how stunning this stage is they had to balance it out with crap nobody wanted... Go Figure. Pun intended. NWO Hall and Nash UE’s would have been a great base offering,
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Post by iamcline on Apr 6, 2023 17:56:03 GMT -5
I'll be sad if this doesn't get made but I'm happy I'll still be able to grab a Nitro ring.
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Post by jumpinjefffarmer on Apr 6, 2023 17:58:05 GMT -5
OK. Doesn't seem to be working out to well though.... And yet you think a Raw stage would’ve done better with more repeat characters lmao Yes I do. 100%
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 18:02:56 GMT -5
I'll be sad if this doesn't get made but I'm happy I'll still be able to grab a Nitro ring. Maybe they'll learn not to put out half assed figures with boring gears nobody wanted.. I think this stage would have done much better if they gave us a Announcers like Bobby Heenen with a Side stage Nitro booth/table. Hell even a WCW Ref would have better than these figures...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 18:07:13 GMT -5
And yet you think a Raw stage would’ve done better with more repeat characters lmao It would actually. You can buy the ring right now on Mattel Creations and immediately have a whole arena the moment the stage comes in.
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Post by 4JackieChan on Apr 6, 2023 18:08:57 GMT -5
And yet you think a Raw stage would’ve done better with more repeat characters lmao Yes I do. 100% Yes it would have. If they actually gave us NEW/better head scans instead of re-using the same formula. Raw stage with: Attitude Vince McMahon Suit. Vince in his wrestler gear against Austin. Stone Cold Steven austin with updated formula and NEW head scans. Shane McMahon with a NEW attitude head scan. Or give us someone obscure but is relevant to the time period. Someone who will never sell like Referee Tim White. Or Linda Mcmahon. Gangrel.. Val Venis.. Mike Tyson.. All of the major players of the attitude era has already been made, but there are def ways to make it more exciting.
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Post by stc13 on Apr 6, 2023 18:11:27 GMT -5
And yet you think a Raw stage would’ve done better with more repeat characters lmao It would actually. You can buy the ring right now on Mattel Creations and immediately have a whole arena the moment the stage comes in. ...this stage isn't coming out for a year, whether it was WCW or WWF. By that point the Nitro ring will be out, so your point doesn't make any sense.
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Post by PJ on Apr 6, 2023 18:12:39 GMT -5
I gladly backed the Nitro stage, but I would have passed on the RAW stage. As for the wrestlers they can’t give you who they don’t have signed.
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