nikostoybox
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Post by nikostoybox on Apr 7, 2023 8:32:37 GMT -5
I think pricing for those outside the US is having a massive impact on this. In Australia we are somewhat fortunate we are not charged extremely high duties on this like our friends in the UK and other parts of Europe. If the UK increase includes said duties and taxes then thats a reflection of harsh government laws. I see it both sides, I would be frustrated too but I also cannot see (nor is it necessarily fair) Mattel lowering the price to offset the overseas taxes that will be slapped onto this amazing set. As far as Influencers go, they really only affect US backers as the figures etc they promote are hardly available outside the US. Even then I admit they are not doing as great a job selling the stage to the masses. As a stage maker myself I believe they likely did not ask enough questions on their visit to the design centre to then pass on info to make people go WOW! Alas for us many international collectors the exchange rate is having such a negative impact. I believe for us here in Australia it is around AUD$650 shipped which is alot of money here. Staying optimistic but unless something changes or is added it is hard to see this going further than DDP As someone who lives in the UK, our customs are set at 20%. Which means we should be charged $480. But we are being charged $625. Nothing to do with our government. 20% obviously is a horrific tax but it’s our law. Mattel is charging us $225 in taxes instead of $80. Am very sympathetic to the UK buyers in particular. I had no idea it was so bad and I assumed the Mattel increase was to cover that. 20% in any case is shockingly high. I sure hope Mattel finds a fair resolution asap because the UK fanbase in my opinion will be the ones this crowdfund depends on.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 7, 2023 8:33:31 GMT -5
Mistake #1 - scamming international backers Mistake #2 - the early bird. It isn’t an early bird, and the figure they chose to get the momentum going was a rerelease with a slightly different pattern on the bandanna and shirt.
Every problem on mattel and not the fans. Fixing the early bird issue, and resolving the international issue and this is backed.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 7, 2023 8:41:30 GMT -5
By any chance has anyone else who's already backed this had it removed on their card? I got two and was initially charged two after the purchase, but just checked my card statement and it's disappeared for some reason. Wondering if it'll charge again when it ships/what the deal is here? That's how a crowdfund works, you get a temp hold to see if you actually have the money and if the item reaches its funding goal you get charged the amount the day the crowdfunding ends.
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 7, 2023 8:42:31 GMT -5
2 questions (or 1.5 really) come to mind
1. Do people think this will be funded?
1b. If yes does that snd depend upon hogan being funded?
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 7, 2023 8:46:53 GMT -5
They may not be normal circumstances but no circumstances should cause a person to want pass on this free figure only so they can get a straight up repaint which they know is crappier. That’s called trying to find any excuse to not back, even when the excuse is completely illogical. A: This figure is not free, it is part of a $400 project. B: This figure IS a crappy repaint. Actually it's not even repainted at all, that would actually mean it's a different figure. Technically the $400 is for the stage plus Rey. Hogan is a free / bonus (whatever terminology you want to use) for backing before a deadline The other figures (exc. Rey and hogan) are free / bonus for hitting targets. So yeah it is free. But that being said I still think it’s a pretty crappy figure to use to entice people. If you’re putting a figure out there to encourage someone to do something then it should be a wow figure. Not a figure from crappy to cool which is the feedback on here. It needs to be a genuine wow that will move the needle, I don’t like the hogan, even those who do I’ve yet to see anyone blown away by it.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 7, 2023 8:48:15 GMT -5
2 questions (or 1.5 really) come to mind 1. Do people think this will be funded? 1b. If yes does that snd depend upon hogan being funded? No I don't think it will. The price is too high for the current economy and the base offering is not enough to warrant it's current price tag.
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gtf_fangeek
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Post by gtf_fangeek on Apr 7, 2023 8:48:22 GMT -5
It has more reasons than just Mattel to likely fail at this point. They launched this around the WM weekend. When, if not around WM, are fans open to pay crazy prices for sth they don't even need. I think that idea was good but the Superstore and WM weekend didn't pull the trigger. Agree that Hogan has been overexposed to be the Early Backer. Switch him with Bischoff and this thing is going. Hogan with the ring would have sold once the stage is backed as people likely will buy the ring if they own the stage. Thought Social Media would pull more buyers! I have there ad coming on Facebook all day long. Influencers couldn't pull the trigger! "Big fans" like Cardona couldn't pull the trigger! It's sad! I think, the stage is great and there is way more to come! $400 is not that bad if all figures were included. $400 wouldn't even be bad with only one figure if it was the right one! If this doesn't fund, we may see no other big stage for a very long time! It's still possible to get at least Hogan & Rey & an awesome stage if a little miracle happens today!
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 7, 2023 8:53:18 GMT -5
A: This figure is not free, it is part of a $400 project. B: This figure IS a crappy repaint. Actually it's not even repainted at all, that would actually mean it's a different figure. Technically the $400 is for the stage plus Rey. Hogan is a free / bonus (whatever terminology you want to use) for backing before a deadline The other figures (exc. Rey and hogan) are free / bonus for hitting targets. So yeah it is free. But that being said I still think it’s a pretty crappy figure to use to entice people. If you’re putting a figure out there to encourage someone to do something then it should be a wow figure. Not a figure from crappy to cool which is the feedback on here. It needs to be a genuine wow that will move the needle, I don’t like the hogan, even those who do I’ve yet to see anyone blown away by it. free /frē/ See definitions: 1. without cost or payment. If you have to pay money to receive an item, it is not free. This is like thinking the shampoo bottle that says "25% extra for FREE" actually has extra shampoo in it you aren't paying for.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 7, 2023 9:00:55 GMT -5
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Post by phantomtrblmkr on Apr 7, 2023 9:01:00 GMT -5
2 questions (or 1.5 really) come to mind 1. Do people think this will be funded? 1b. If yes does that snd depend upon hogan being funded? I think it will fund. I don't think it matters if Hogan is unlocked because it seems that most don't find the figure to be much of a draw in the first place.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 7, 2023 9:02:05 GMT -5
2 questions (or 1.5 really) come to mind 1. Do people think this will be funded? 1b. If yes does that snd depend upon hogan being funded? Its looking grim. I guess it depends on if there’s any momentum later today. Taking Hogan off the table probably will be the death knell. Love or hate the choice of including this figure but there’s no denying that he is the face of the entire era this stage represents and the guy who single handedly put WCW on the map as a legitimate contender to WWF. Remove him from the equation and this stage becomes less desirable.
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oldschoolfool
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Post by oldschoolfool on Apr 7, 2023 9:06:38 GMT -5
Hogan doesn't seem likely to happen and once that becomes official expect the backer number to slowly trickle backwards.
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Post by The Assassin on Apr 7, 2023 9:09:17 GMT -5
Doing my best to help spread the word and get as many eyes on this as possible. I figure people will think it's cool to see at the very least. Yesterday I posted the link on several other forums I use (or used to use). Today I sent the link/details to a bunch of old friends who I know like wrestling (or used to, at least). And hopefully the people who see it might themselves tell other people too. Please everyone help your fellow WFers who want this - take a few seconds to copy and paste this link to people you know and places online. creations.mattel.com/products/wwe-ultimate-edition-wcw-monday-nitro-entrance-stage-hvf82
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thep1
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Post by thep1 on Apr 7, 2023 9:09:50 GMT -5
I may just be a "jobber" on this forum, though I read many posts and threads (LONG TIME collector, still have my 1992 Hasbro Hogan with Hulkster Slam that I got at TRU for $4.95). Just imagine how much smaller this thread/topic would be if it weren't the same posts repeated ad nauseum, just with different words, and most being negative. Sadly a microcosm of our society in general.
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Post by Chip on Apr 7, 2023 9:11:26 GMT -5
anyone else think they should have just made the figures elites instead of "Ultimates"
i feel like Mattel is overkilling the Ultimate thing, like, just as everything else goes...something is doing well, and so the company behind it starts pushing it more and more and more. forcing it out there as a big deal and overproducing everything. to where it drains people's attention to it and loses its special appeal
we're already getting amazon exclusive ultimates, target exclusive ultimates, now walmart exclusive ultimates AND they're adding a 3rd figure to each wave. plus colesium collection, and seems like the comiccon exclusives are now gonna be Ultimates.
Ultimates started as these premium figures, with a lot of accessories and extra parts. Now an ultimate is a figure with a vest and extra head (DDP)
Most people have been collecting elites forever. Elite just hit series 100, not including all the other sets. All of the figures in this project I'd rather have as elites to go in my elite collection.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Apr 7, 2023 9:17:17 GMT -5
Do you really think that the amount of backers would be much higher if the people you mentioned had been included instead? I don’t. Absolutely, look at the New Gen crowdfund, the figures are make or break for these things. Especially if the Early Bird is a sought after figure. Also the Hogan is the definition of half assed, I don't really care about WCW figures so it's not a matter of me wanting them, it's calling a spade a spade. Sure they are, but I’m not convinced that Nash, Hall, Booker, and Bischoff would be moving more units than Rey, DDP, Steiner, and Warrior. I personally wouldn’t have done Hogan as the early bird, but I don’t think it’s a bad figure. Many of us have been wanting a pre-nWo WCW ring-gear Hogan for a long time.
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natureboyfauser
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Post by natureboyfauser on Apr 7, 2023 9:18:24 GMT -5
Steve,
I am respectfully asking you and your team if you would reconsider not punishing those who are early backers of the NITRO SET by removing Hulk for us? Last time, what put me over was during the campaign, you decided to throw in Macho Man and the announcer's table. I was on the fence before that ... and that made me jump in because I didn't want to lose out on him. Would you please reconsider this by adding a few days and changing the bonus for those in? I think we will get there, which will be great for you and us ... but taking away something might jeopardize this. I appreciate your consideration.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Apr 7, 2023 9:18:54 GMT -5
They should reinsert Hogan at 6000 backers for the last week of this thing.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Apr 7, 2023 9:20:21 GMT -5
Yikes. Not even 2k
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 7, 2023 9:20:36 GMT -5
anyone else think they should have just made the figures elites instead of "Ultimates" i feel like Mattel is overkilling the Ultimate thing, like, just as everything else goes...something is doing well, and so the company behind it starts pushing it more and more and more. forcing it out there as a big deal and overproducing everything. to where it drains people's attention to it and loses its special appeal we're already getting amazon exclusive ultimates, target exclusive ultimates, now walmart exclusive ultimates AND they're adding a 3rd figure to each wave. plus colesium collection, and seems like the comiccon exclusives are now gonna be Ultimates. Ultimates started as these premium figures, with a lot of accessories and extra parts. Now an ultimate is a figure with a vest and extra head (DDP) Most people have been collecting elites forever. Elite just hit series 100, not including all the other sets. All of the figures in this project I'd rather have as elites to go in my elite collection. This discussion deserves its own thread but they are slowly becoming over done. It’s becoming WAY to hard to keep Up with just what I want. If it’s because of price, not being able to find it or just having too much at once.
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